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Teacher treating children too young

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Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 21:40

My child is in a year 3 class, the teacher now sings a song to get them to sit on the carpet and has organised a book advent for this week. The children are 7 and 8, I feel they are far too old to be sung to sit on the carpet. Aibu to talk to the headteacher?

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Quickdraw23 · 02/12/2024 07:37

I’ve read all your posts OP but not all of the replies so I’m sorry if this is repetitive.

i get the impression that you see singing a song to mark a transition as immature, but repectfully I think this concern is misplaced. Music is used to mark transition in many adult media like film, tv, news programmes.

secondly, I don’t think you maybe appreciate how loud a classroom of 30+ 8 year olds can be, and starting a song can be a way of getting their attention without shouting at them. Surely this is preferable?

no doubt there will be schools around who take a more sombre approach, but given how fast kids are having to grow up thanks to the internet, culture etc etc, surely a bit of light hearted approach here and there is a nice thing?

its fair enough if your child finds it a bit naff, but as you said its not hurting anyone, so where’s the harm?

complaining to the head is unlikely to achieve anything except making probably an already stressed and overloaded teacher feel criticised to be honest.

tuvamoodyson · 02/12/2024 07:35

I’m BEGGING you to complain OP…..I’ll be right here waiting for the response.

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MsGoodenough · 02/12/2024 07:34

Singing is one of life's great pleasures. My Year 11 use songs and chants to help with their revision. They love it. No such thing as too old for a song.

Londonrach1 · 02/12/2024 07:34

titbumwillypoo · 02/12/2024 07:28

OP I had my year 4's singing The Continents Song in geography on Friday. I now see the error of my ways and shall apologise and ask them to give me an age appropriate flogging this morning.

My dd aged 8 loves the continents song...so tbh do I....Asia, Africa, north and south America...only just realized that the song is in order from biggest to smallest. We other songs bought back too.... Think children learn better with songs....

Londonrach1 · 02/12/2024 07:31

Yabu. Can't believe parents act like you to teachers. My dd is in year 4 and they have songs which she sing back at me sometimes. They love it. Book advert. Sounds like a lovely teacher.

titbumwillypoo · 02/12/2024 07:28

OP I had my year 4's singing The Continents Song in geography on Friday. I now see the error of my ways and shall apologise and ask them to give me an age appropriate flogging this morning.

Threelittleduck · 02/12/2024 07:12

Do you object to songs in assembly too? What about music lesson? Can they sing then? Christmas concert or Easter concert, can they sing then?
YABU and totally ridiculous. Sounds like he's a good teacher to me. Would you prefer he shouted or nagged the kids?
Still as someone else said you can complain, the staff enjoy a good laugh. I won't tell you about some of the ridiculous complaints we used to get when I worked at a nursery.

jasminocereusbritannicus · 02/12/2024 06:56

I work in a year 3 class. We maybe don’t sing at tidy-up time ( but if it work d, we would!) , however we have calming , tinkly music playing while they’re working whi ch h seems to help. And a book advent is actually a really good idea!!! Why do think 8 year olds are too old for this?
Teacher’s have multitudinous ways of managing their classes…. This is obviously the one that works for your daughter’s class.

Seriously, you think this is something to complain about? Have you asked other parents? I’ll dare bet most of them think it is absolutely fine.
Year 2 to 3 is a big step, they need things that are familiar as well as new ways of doing things. 7 - 8 years old is still quite “young” in lots of ways.
I don’t suppose they’ll do this in year in 4…. Unless they’re the sort of class that needs these sort of cues.

Sugargliderwombat · 02/12/2024 05:49

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:41

I didn't realise you have to work at your child's school to be allowed the right to complain.

You can complain all you like but teachers are observed when they apply for the job and regularly during. Behaviour / classroom management strategies are high on every schools agenda so management will obviously be fine with it.

ItGhoul · 02/12/2024 02:37

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

If it's not harming anyone, and the children are apparently responding to it, why do you think it's inappropriate? Why do you think the teacher shouldn't do it, exactly?

Why do you think 'book advent' isn't acceptable for a 7-8 year old?

I would of thought an experienced teacher...

And I would have thought that a supposed university lecturer would know that it's 'would have' and not 'would of', but I wouldn't phone the university to complain.

KillerTomato7 · 02/12/2024 00:38

A song? In Year 3?!!!

You should probably call the police, just to be safe. This is too urgent a matter to wait for the headteacher.

ClairDeLaLune · 02/12/2024 00:37

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

University lecturer?? Hahaha yes of course you are OP. Generally university lecturers know it’s “would have” not “would of”.

You sound utterly ridiculous. The teacher has a happy class of kids, yeah complain about them and get them forced out of their job or so disillusioned they quit. The kids are treated like kids. Oh no, shock horror! Give them vapes, get them on TikTok, and send them off clubbing.

Your original post is extremely depressing. Unclench FFS.

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:34

MYOB!!!

StaunchMomma · 02/12/2024 00:32

This is a ridiculously dumb reason to be pissed at a teacher.

The teacher is doing nothing detrimental to their education in the slightest.

You sound judgemental AF.

Kurokurosuke · 02/12/2024 00:32

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:10

You are all very preumptious in assuming that the teacher is female! And I didn't say there was a problem with children sitting on the carpet, moreover how they are asked.

I think you have used moreover incorrectly here. As a university lecturer I would expect higher standards. Should someone contact your head of department?

You don't have a problem with them sitting on the carpet. You do have a problem with how they are asked. You are not adding supporting information to your first point, but stating a counterpoint. So 'moreover' cannot be used in this context.

May be you would benefit from carpet time.

Nocameltoeleggingsplease · 02/12/2024 00:28

On another thread people are complaining about secondary schools assuming the pupils don’t believe in Santa.
It is impossible to be a teacher and please anyone everyone.
So politely, unless you have a teaching qualification (and even then); wind your neck in

Maray1967 · 02/12/2024 00:22

As a university head of department I would strongly advise you not to complain about what seems a lovely way to manage children.

Would you seriously entertain parental complaints about your assessment weightings? Or your NSS strategies?

GreenTeaLikesMe · 02/12/2024 00:19

I find the carpet sitting in the UK weird and would hate my kids to do that, but teachers have to do whatever they need to to get through the day. I think the carpet sitting in the UK is because desks are put in “tables” so the poor kids can’t actually see the board without cricking their necks. Putting desks in rows would solve the problem (would probably reduce the headlice issue as well) but this is seen as taboo in UK primary schools, so carpets it is.

FrippEnos · 02/12/2024 00:18

A colleague and I used to use a video of a clean up song at the end of practical lessons.
The Teenagers at KS3 used to love it and the yr10 pupils often requested it.

As long as it works there is no problem.

scotstars · 02/12/2024 00:13

Yabu. I cannot believe you are seriously thinking about complaining on what grounds? No wonder teachers are leaving in droves.

HolyPeaches · 02/12/2024 00:13

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:41

I didn't realise you have to work at your child's school to be allowed the right to complain.

But surely you realise that “complaining” about kids being sung to, to sit on the carpet, is absolutely fucking ridiculous?

frenchfancy81 · 02/12/2024 00:10

Yes.

oakleaffy · 02/12/2024 00:09

oakleaffy · 02/12/2024 00:06

That sounds amazing! I remember doing the Krebs cycle and the Electron transfer chain - would have loved a song to remember it.

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oakleaffy · 02/12/2024 00:06

wibdib · 01/12/2024 22:54

When DH was at Uni he found the Biochemical Song Book a really useful revision tool - nearly 40 years later, several different degrees and jobs later, he can still sing several of the songs that he learnt (eg the Krebs cycle to the tune of Waltzing Matilda) and remember all the words and pathways of the cycle (well as much as they were back in early 80s when he learnt them!). There's no way that he would still remember even half the details if they hadn't been turned into a song!

That sounds amazing! I remember doing the Krebs cycle and the Electron transfer chain - would have loved a song to remember it.

ChiliFiend · 02/12/2024 00:03

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

The glaring grammatical error in here makes me fairly confident you're not actually a university lecturer.