Teacher treating children too young

My child’s Year 4 teacher sings ‘loads’. In yr3 it was just for maths sometimes apparently. She absolutely loves it. Singing beyond memory rhymes is very age appropriate for lower KS2, probably even upper KS2 really?
I’m sure it’s not maths or science songs you’re complaining about as I’m sure everyone had to sing them on occasion in secondary school!

@StaunchMomma a few years ago we had to do some "research" in my school on retrieval practice. Because my own DDs had been there, I suggested comparing classes who had learned the ElectroMagnetic Spectrum song with those who hadn't, some 2 years down the line. I went into the 6th form centre and asked for anyone who wasn't taking Physics A level if they would mind writing out the EMS in order. It was entirely anonymous apart from I asked them to write the initial letter of the surname of the teacher who taught them GCSE Physics. Without exception, everyone who had been taught by the 2 colleagues who used that "epic" piece could write it out correctly, despite not having studied Physics for 2 years. Around 40% from the other teacher's class got it right.

Before anyone criticises my Maths, at that point kids did GCSEs in y10 and I was talking to y13s.

As a secondary school music teacher, I bloody love it that a teacher has the confidence to sing to their class. I love it that a kind person has made a fab video of one of the GCSE set works with a rap of all the key information. Music is such a wonderful mood enhancer and way of transitioning between phases of a lesson.

OP stop being such a fun sponge and let your kid enjoy her childhood. Teaching y3 all day every day is extremely hard work; perhaps you should cover her for a few days as you obviously know so much better.

It is perfectly age-appropriate. HTH.

Year three and year four children were heavily affected by Covid around the time they were at nursery and starting school. This means that they missed out on much of their crucial early education, which is much more than reading, writing and maths. They missed out on the fun and socialisation and this is a very important part of learning. I have always found that if you can make learning fun for small children and, yes, possibly make yourself look a little silly, they remember what they have been taught much more easily. Actually, this applies to anyone, really. I am a piano, violin and viola teacher and often use silly words and phrases to help with rhythms. It works and the rhythm is understood far more quickly. As for sitting on a carpet and listening to a story (is this what is meant by the Advent books?), it is a lovely thing for anyone. In today’s fast paced, highly visual world, modern children need it more than ever before. We remember special teachers. I would imagine the children in your child’s class will have fond memories of being in Mr. Jones’s class for the rest of their lives.

It sounds entirely age appropriate.

7/8 is still very little. Plenty of time for being more “grown up” later.

Context - dd is 16 and very independent so I haven’t ended up infantilising a child but letting them be a child ages 7.

100% this.

Teachers know their kids. What works well with some classes doesn't with others.

You use what you have in your arsenal.

Just so you know, songs continue throughout secondary. It's a great way to get facts into a child's head.

One of my favourite moments from my teaching years is running down to wish my year 11's good luck as they went into an exam and catching them quietly running through a rendition of the Electromagnetic Spectrum Song.

Stick to your lane, OP.

All normal. I work in a Year 3 class and our children sit on the carpet, as they do in Year 4 too! The teacher knows the class, and what they respond too. If a song is the best way to do it, then it really doesn't matter.

Yes, you go and tell the HT about how the qualified teacher with a knowledge of the actual chldren invokved should be running her class, and then come back here and tell us how it went for you!

@SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius she was joking......(@Arseynal that is)
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Ooh, I don't know! Be careful!

DH and I regularly sing to the dog. She's 7 but still behaves like a demented puppy most of the time. Perhaps the singing is doing more harm than we thought! 😬😂

Are you the same parent that was at my kids swimming lesson on Sunday and when they got out the pool asked their 5-6 year old what marks they would give themselves and when they said eight said "I'd say more of a six, you didn't try hard enough"

I'm a pushy parent but even that was bonkers.

There are plenty of things to moan about in schools, without that.

I sang to my 11yo yesterday. She appears mainly unscathed by the experience.

What an utterly ridiculous thing to say, @Arseynal!

If only children get to sing, you can kiss goodbye to almost all pop music, choral music, opera, musicals, karaoke etc - not to mention denying many, many people the joy and fulfilment that comes from singing in a group/choir.

Singing in a setting such as the checkout at Lidl is probably not appropriate (though I doubt it harms anyone) - but to use that as evidence that no adult should sing is just madness.

My kids had a teacher in year six who was the school music and arts lead
They used to sing the register and all sorts
Obviously they are all now illiterate delinquents entirely due to this shoddy behaviour 🙄
Anyone who uses should of or could of and claims to be a university lecturer is far more of a worry to be honest

I would HAVE thought that a university lecturer would know that it's 'would have', not "would of", but here we are.

And no, I don't usually criticise the English of posters on Mumsnet - but when you're finding fault with a primary teacher for running what sounds like a lovely classroom, you're fair game.

Nice songs?!! Books?!! Sitting on carpet!!!!!! She should be fired immediately. Jokes. She sounds fine and quite nice. There is nothing wrong with singing at any age and certainly nothing wrong with books.

It is a perfectly age appropriate strategy. Sadly too many children are exposed to age-inappropriate experiences and encouraged to 'grow-up' too quickly these days.

As a 'university lecturer', you have hopefully now learned that the literate version of the expression is "would have" and not "would of". Perhaps you could also do some research on the correct usage of 'moreover' - your incorrect use of it suggests you are trying to sound cleverer than you actually are!

Ahh, so education, but the point where they all want to be there and understand the need for their cooperation in your efforts to improve their knowledge. Not the age where you perhaps need a wide variety of methods of gaining their attention to get a point across in a stimulating and fun way. 🙄

What on earth is your issue with a book advent? It's a lovely idea. Or do you think books/reading books to children is something that should only be done for pre-schoolers? As for music as a transition, maybe it's not that the teacher is treating the kids too young, but that you treat your 7 year old too old?

I think it's lovely. Kids are made to grow up too quickly these days.

Oh my goodness, this post has to be a joke! YABVVVVU. I'm a year 3 teacher, and this sounds fantastic! Singing is a great way to get the children's attention, and they'll love it more than a spoken instruction. I sing a fair bit to my Y3 class and they love it, and I can guarantee it grabs their attention every time. Also, a book advent calendar is wonderful. How lucky are the children to get that. The teacher sounds great!

Email the school office as a matter of urgency and book a meeting with the head.
Then come back here and tell us about what you learned about retrieval practice, child psychology and no doubt you’ll be reminded about the ages of year 3 pupils.

Same applies for when they are in secondary school. No, they will not be learning Masters level science or PhD thesis content in year 7.

Give your head a wobble.

Don’t consider becoming an Ofsted inspector.

Beggars belief.

I think this is just another example of someone with no idea what teaching is, who nevertheless thinks that they know better than the teacher.