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Teacher treating children too young

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Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 21:40

My child is in a year 3 class, the teacher now sings a song to get them to sit on the carpet and has organised a book advent for this week. The children are 7 and 8, I feel they are far too old to be sung to sit on the carpet. Aibu to talk to the headteacher?

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AmICrazyToEvenBother · 02/12/2024 19:52

Poor teacher! They are having to appeal to a lot of children with varying degrees of maturity, compliance, preferences.

My child's teacher still sings songs. She loves them. I don't know about to sit down, but grammar and maths are still taught by song sometimes. I don't see the problem, it's just a medium and children respond to variations of media throughout the day.

EmoIsntDead · 02/12/2024 19:51

EmpressOfTheThread · 01/12/2024 22:21

How lovely! What song?

I play the Henry hill theme tune when I want my classes to tidy up 🤣

CrowleyKitten · 02/12/2024 19:48

WearyAuldWumman · 01/12/2024 22:45

You beat me to it.

My late husband was an English teacher. He would help pupils learn poetry (often for exams) by taking in his guitar and using poems which had been set to music.

kind of irrelevant, but I thought it might amuse you.
at some point in the nineties, the poem given to discuss in a GCSE essay was William Blakes The Poison Tree.
at that time, it had recently been done to music as a B side to Blurs Parklife. so I remember hearing about loads of people sitting down to their exam and thinking, hey I know this one.
their version is called Magpie.

LadyQuackBeth · 02/12/2024 19:46

You do realise that there will be a significant amount of your fellow parents who will have spent the last few years telling the school that "do you know, in Scandinavia, they wouldn't even have started school yet?!' in response to their child hitting, not being able to sit still or listen or share...

Teachers should put you all in a room with prompt cards and sell popcorn.

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/12/2024 19:38

ParkedTheBroomstickNowWhat · 02/12/2024 19:23

I help at Guides, they sing a song at the start of the meeting and again at the end, many of the girls join in, none of them hate it as far as I know. They're aged 10-14.

They sing in Rangers (the oldest section) to!

That was one of the best parts of Guides and Rangers for me! I loved those campfire songs.

Whatafustercluck · 02/12/2024 19:35

I think the teacher sounds lovely and I wish all teachers were like this and allowed children to hang onto their innocence a bit longer before forcing things like SATS on them. My child (8yo) definitely responds much better to this kind of teacher. Luckily her teacher is very much like this, and she's enjoying her time in Y3 very much as a result, and is learning lots.

JLou08 · 02/12/2024 19:33

What's wrong with 8 year olds singing? What a miserable thought that children of that age shouldn't be singing in class. By all means speak to the head but I think at best they will see it as you wasting their time and there's a good chance there will be a few jokes about it in the staff room

fitzwilliamdarcy · 02/12/2024 19:30

(My answer would be the same if the teacher was male, female, young, old, black, white or in fact Mr Blobby - it’s not for you as a parent to micromanage classroom management.)

I think finding out your kids are being taught by Mr Blobby might be one of the few cases which justifies querying classroom management. 😉

YABU OP. And I say that as a former (abroad) teacher whose curriculum recommended the removal of songs and sitting on floor at age 7. It’d still be inappropriate for me to decide that I know how to run the classroom better than the teacher.

Reason 3567543 why I’d never teach in the UK…

CrowleyKitten · 02/12/2024 19:28

you're never too old for books.

Askingforafriendtoday · 02/12/2024 19:27

I don't understand what's wrong with singing to 7 and 8 year olds... I sing to hush the chat in a large lecture theatre before starting, the adult students love it, it works a dream.
What exactly is wrong with a book advent? Please explain. Genuinely baffled by your post. I too am a university lecturer so please do explain your issues with both these methods clearly

ParkedTheBroomstickNowWhat · 02/12/2024 19:23

I help at Guides, they sing a song at the start of the meeting and again at the end, many of the girls join in, none of them hate it as far as I know. They're aged 10-14.

They sing in Rangers (the oldest section) to!

Cheesetoastiees · 02/12/2024 19:13

Wtf is wrong with a book advent and if the children respond to a song who cares? Nicer than being shouted over.

Lemonademoney · 02/12/2024 19:09

I think that sounds lovely! Childhood flies by so quickly, how wonderful to hold on to some of the magic.

Saturdayssandwichsociety · 02/12/2024 19:07

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:20

Absolutely not, more that I expected a certain level of behaviour management when children move up to the next key stage.

Singing a song to signal carpet time is great behaviour management?! Its a clear signal which can be heard above general classroom din, but doesn't involve the teacher needing to raise their voice or shout which lots of children don't like. What on earth do you think is wrong with it?!
Teachers use a variety of excellent methods to signal to pupils, ive heard some who use a chime bar, or singing, or playing music.
Would you rather they shouted crossly OP 😂

RainbowColouredRainbows · 02/12/2024 19:07

Get a grip, seriously

Toptops · 02/12/2024 18:54

Oh dear.
Give your head a wobble

cansu · 02/12/2024 18:49

Are songs only for toddlers then? WhT is wrong with a song? You should complain. The teachers could do with a laugh.

Littletreefrog · 02/12/2024 18:43

Is it the singing or the sitting on the carpet? I sometimes sit on the carpet at work to sort my paperwork when I have lots of bits and not enough space on my desk. Come to think of it today I did this while singing along to the radio, and I'm 41!!!

Mellowbear · 02/12/2024 18:35

Think you need to grow up!!!

MrsHamlet · 02/12/2024 18:27

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

Oh dear...

I sometimes sing part of Total eclipse of the heart when I want my year 11 to face the front. I'll have myself struck off forthwith.

lizzyBennet08 · 02/12/2024 18:19

Op
You absolutely need to contact the head about this. Explain that the kids are not getting any younger and you as a university lecture know what is required and they need to crack out. Point out that at 8, they're years too old to be singing a song.

pollymere · 02/12/2024 18:13

Due to Lockdown, some children are very young for their age especially in terms of social skills.

However I wouldn't have seen an issue with this prior to Lockdown. Y3 is a year group that can sometimes need coddling a little. I wouldn't expect this with Y4 but have no issues with it for a Y3 class. Some of these kids are only just seven.

Fromthestart · 02/12/2024 18:07

I'm in child mental health and I would very much advocate for singing teachers.

Angelil · 02/12/2024 17:36

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

“I would of thought”? And you’re a university lecturer, you say? OH, PLEASE.

Makingchocolatecake · 02/12/2024 16:32

I'm a teacher. I don't think the headteacher will care. It's just her method. If the kids think it's babyish one of them will tell her, or pull a face and she'll know.