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Pissed off DH dismisses my name ideas

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Plum02 · 01/12/2024 20:42

Currently pregnant with DC1. My favourite boys name since I was a child was “Sebastian” which he knew before I was even pregnant. He said he hated it - couldn’t give a reason, to the point where it felt like he’d once said that so felt like he had to double down.

I’m now pregnant with a girl and I’ve spent a lot of time researching and coming up with name ideas. It just so happens every name I like DH apparently “hates”. So far I’ve suggested seven names I love:

  • Margot - ugly, hates it
  • Ophelia - horrible, hates it
  • Clementine - awful, hates it
  • Octavia - cars name, ridiculous
  • Etta - doesn’t even sound like a real name, awful
  • Penelope - sounds old fashioned, hates it

A few days ago I came across (and fell in love with) the name Ottilie. It’s unusual but classic, feminine and pretty. I thought it would be uncontroversial! I told him I’d found another name I love and before I even told him what it was he was rolling his eyes like “oh god, here we go”. Before I told him I said “you don’t have to respond straight away when I tell you, just take some time to think about it” - thinking that his automatic reaction seems to be to dismiss the names I suggest but if he thinks about it he might actually like it!

Of course as soon as I said it he said it he said “that is awful, I’m not calling my child otter”. I said “it’s Ottilie, the NN could be Tilly” then he starts telling a story about a pregnant 17 year old called Tilly (he has a public facing job).

He says I’m over-reacting to be annoyed just because he doesn’t like a name but I feel utterly depressed. He brings nothing to the table but it feels like before I even suggest something he’s made his mind up not to like it which feels so disrespectful. I also want to have a name I love, not just settle for something and it feels like I’ve exhausted all those names having gone through thousands to pick out the ones I love.

I feel like most men would be so much more laid back about girl’s names and let their wife take the lead, unless it’s something they truly hate - but how can he truly hate every name I come up with!

OP posts:
MixieMatchie · 04/12/2024 13:52

BoneTiredandWired · 03/12/2024 22:44

Why the fuck couldn't a beautician be called Ophelia or Octavia? Mad!

Well, obviously, they are all called Rita and Doreen...

Boyandgirlanddone · 04/12/2024 13:51

In my experience, parents need to come at this whole process in their own way. We only properly decided on our son's name when he was born. And with every aspect of parenting, we have found our way much more clearly when he figured out his way of doing it and I figured out mine, and we didn't try to enforce our ways on the other. Luckily, we tended to end up at the same place! Until he meets the baby, your DH doesn't know who he is. You have the privilige of a physical bond, he doesn't. I would let him have the space to figure this out for himself without asking him to literally put a name to it!

BunnyLake · 04/12/2024 13:49

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 10:13

That's fascinating!

So you call your son James if you want the most timeless name, or David if you want him to fit in equally well on the board of a FTSE100 company, in medical school, on the football pitch or in prison. (Perhaps not anymore though, it's quite underused now.)

I think it’s interesting how David and Dave sound like they come from different social backgrounds. I’m not sure if there are any other full names that seem so downgraded by their abbreviation. In my opinion, of course.

OreoMonster29 · 04/12/2024 13:37

@Mirabai @MissScarletInTheBallroom
Like I said, OP can do as she pleases. I'm just a random person giving my opinion on a public thread that she started. She can choose to ignore it. You can also choose to ignore me if my opinion bothers you so much.
Anyone can choose to call their child what they like, it's a free country 🤷‍♀️ But if you put a list of names on a thread on a forum then people will naturally comment on them. If you don't want that then don't post it on the internet, simple.

Mirabai · 04/12/2024 12:50

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 11:14

I doubt whether Lily, Ivy, Rose, Holly, Hazel, Heather, Daphne, Iris, Jasmine, Daisy, Rowan, Poppy and Violet are giving it that much thought.

Not to mention Cherry and Plum.

Mirabai · 04/12/2024 12:48

OreoMonster29 · 04/12/2024 11:54

@MissScarletInTheBallroom No but the Op made a thread about it on a public forum so I gave my opinion, just like hundreds of others. I didn't say she had to call her child Anna or Emma, those were just a couple of examples. Her husband hates all her ideas, which are all the same type of name - Insta mum/luvvie/(wannabe) middle class. I've suggested some names that in my opinion are more neutral and universal, that might be a good compromise.She doesn't have to take me up on those suggestions 🤷‍♀️ Honestly, you're far too invested in what I've said, I'm just a random person on the internet giving my two pennies' worth

You’re not the OP, there’s no obligation to choose names that are neutral & universal - what does that even mean? Class neutral, gender neutral, race neutral, region or country neutral? Which? All? Subjective anyway.

What gallery are you trying to please exactly?

Why can’t middle class parents use what you perceive to be middle class names? What has that to do with Instamums and luvvies?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 12:32

thepariscrimefiles · 04/12/2024 12:28

As her DH hasn't come up with any names that he likes, I'm not sure how OP is being unreasonable. OP would like a grown up discussion but if her DH doesn't even have a shortlist of names, how will that happen?

Exactly.

The suggestions of them each coming up with a shortlist have been ignored because the OP's AIBU is that her husband is vetoing all the names on her shortlist whilst refusing to come up with a shortlist of his own.

thepariscrimefiles · 04/12/2024 12:28

Trixiefirecracker · 02/12/2024 07:51

I think it’s just because she expects to get her own way and for some reason believes that because she’s a woman she gets to chose her DD’s name. All these suggestions of both parents coming up with a shortlist have been ignored, I presume because she doesn’t want a grown up conversation about it.

As her DH hasn't come up with any names that he likes, I'm not sure how OP is being unreasonable. OP would like a grown up discussion but if her DH doesn't even have a shortlist of names, how will that happen?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 12:24

OreoMonster29 · 04/12/2024 11:54

@MissScarletInTheBallroom No but the Op made a thread about it on a public forum so I gave my opinion, just like hundreds of others. I didn't say she had to call her child Anna or Emma, those were just a couple of examples. Her husband hates all her ideas, which are all the same type of name - Insta mum/luvvie/(wannabe) middle class. I've suggested some names that in my opinion are more neutral and universal, that might be a good compromise.She doesn't have to take me up on those suggestions 🤷‍♀️ Honestly, you're far too invested in what I've said, I'm just a random person on the internet giving my two pennies' worth

You don't know what might be a good compromise, because her husband hasn't suggested any names.

He might want to name his daughter Chardonnay, and not like your "compromise" names any more than the OP does.

You seem to be missing the fact that the OP wasn't asking for opinions about the names, but about the fact that her husband is dismissing all her suggestions without making any himself.

thepariscrimefiles · 04/12/2024 12:20

ButFirstCovfefe · 02/12/2024 00:01

But, like, don’t you know what happened to Ophelia?

I had a rabbit I named Ophelia, when I was a child (yes I was extra) and she died. I took it as a lesson in naming, to be honest. Poor thing was doomed.

I like most of your names but think your attitude absolutely sucks towards other posters. They’re allowed to disagree.

Then again I think all my children’s names would be on your list (I loved Sebastian but hated Seb so didn’t use, but my boys are of that ilk.) My daughter has a wonderful name…think Guinevere shortened to Gwen type of thing (yes Guinevere was on our list).
TBH if he refused to offer a name I’d just name them myself.

But OP wasn't asking for posters' opinions on the names she has chosen. She was asking whether she was being unreasonable to be pissed off with her DH for dismissing all the names she has suggested without coming up with any suggestions of his own.

People have been really rude about the names, which is unnecessary.

OreoMonster29 · 04/12/2024 11:54

@MissScarletInTheBallroom No but the Op made a thread about it on a public forum so I gave my opinion, just like hundreds of others. I didn't say she had to call her child Anna or Emma, those were just a couple of examples. Her husband hates all her ideas, which are all the same type of name - Insta mum/luvvie/(wannabe) middle class. I've suggested some names that in my opinion are more neutral and universal, that might be a good compromise.She doesn't have to take me up on those suggestions 🤷‍♀️ Honestly, you're far too invested in what I've said, I'm just a random person on the internet giving my two pennies' worth

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 11:14

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 04/12/2024 10:51

No! Not keen on those names either. But each to her own

I doubt whether Lily, Ivy, Rose, Holly, Hazel, Heather, Daphne, Iris, Jasmine, Daisy, Rowan, Poppy and Violet are giving it that much thought.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 11:12

OreoMonster29 · 04/12/2024 11:04

@MissScarletInTheBallroom Again, never said working class environment are "morally superior". You really are making things up now. I said I wouldn't want a name that pigeonholes my child as being from a specific class or demographic because that child might not always want to stay in that environment. It works the other way round too, I wouldn't call my child Jaxon either.

Right but you're not the parent of the OP's baby.

One person's "classless" is another person's bland and boring.

You don't really know whether the names the OP likes are going to pigeonhole her baby or not in any case, because it's only with the benefit of hindsight that we can see what the naming trends were at the time our children were born.

There's no point banging on about how someone should call their child Anna or Emma because it's timeless and international and won't pigeonhole their child, if that person doesn't like those names. And it would be ridiculous if everyone called their child Anna or Emma, so as much as you might think these are the best names, presumably you acknowledge that there does need to be a certain amount of variety in what people call their children.

Americano75 · 04/12/2024 11:10

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 04/12/2024 10:40

Sorry, but who wants to be named for a fruit?

Clementines the fruit were actually named after Pope Clement, and Clementine is the feminine version so the name came before the fruit.

Either way, I think it's a beautiful name.

OreoMonster29 · 04/12/2024 11:04

@MissScarletInTheBallroom Again, never said working class environment are "morally superior". You really are making things up now. I said I wouldn't want a name that pigeonholes my child as being from a specific class or demographic because that child might not always want to stay in that environment. It works the other way round too, I wouldn't call my child Jaxon either.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 04/12/2024 10:51

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 10:47

Is it any worse than being named for any other type of plant?

No! Not keen on those names either. But each to her own

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 10:47

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 04/12/2024 10:40

Sorry, but who wants to be named for a fruit?

Is it any worse than being named for any other type of plant?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 10:47

OreoMonster29 · 04/12/2024 10:44

@MissScarletInTheBallroom Where did I say she'd be "miserable"? You're just making things up now. Maybe you're the odd one.

You keep banging on about people with these names sticking out like a sore thumb in the sort of "working class" environments you seem to see as morally superior.

Well they're clearly not morally superior environments if they're stuffed full of people who will take the piss out of someone for being called Ophelia.

OreoMonster29 · 04/12/2024 10:44

@MissScarletInTheBallroom Where did I say she'd be "miserable"? You're just making things up now. Maybe you're the odd one.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 04/12/2024 10:40

Americano75 · 01/12/2024 20:46

I love Clementine to be honest. What names has he managed to come up with?

Sorry, but who wants to be named for a fruit?

Igmum · 04/12/2024 10:38

Well I like your names @Plum02 and I think your DH is behaving like a knob. Let him suggest something instead of being an armchair critic.

PotOfViolas · 04/12/2024 10:29

If you gave him a print out of top 100/200 baby names would he refuse to tick any off he liked?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 10:14

Thalia31 · 03/12/2024 23:34

You seem to favour old-fashioned names. Which is fine but it is not for everyone. I suggest you both come up with a list and see if you can find a happy balance.

If I had a quid for everyone who has suggested they "both come up with a list" (when the OP's complaint is her husband's refusal to suggest any names he likes) my family could have a completely OTT Christmas this year.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 10:13

Iamiams · 04/12/2024 07:32

A decade out of date but still fascinating:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/gallery/2013/feb/11/whats-in-a-name

Can’t imagine the Guardian doing this now.

That's fascinating!

So you call your son James if you want the most timeless name, or David if you want him to fit in equally well on the board of a FTSE100 company, in medical school, on the football pitch or in prison. (Perhaps not anymore though, it's quite underused now.)

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/12/2024 10:08

OreoMonster29 · 03/12/2024 21:25

Never said these names were modern though?

No, just that a child with this name is likely to be miserable if she wants to become a beauty therapist or a car mechanic.

Which is a really odd take.

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