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Pissed off DH dismisses my name ideas

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Plum02 · 01/12/2024 20:42

Currently pregnant with DC1. My favourite boys name since I was a child was “Sebastian” which he knew before I was even pregnant. He said he hated it - couldn’t give a reason, to the point where it felt like he’d once said that so felt like he had to double down.

I’m now pregnant with a girl and I’ve spent a lot of time researching and coming up with name ideas. It just so happens every name I like DH apparently “hates”. So far I’ve suggested seven names I love:

  • Margot - ugly, hates it
  • Ophelia - horrible, hates it
  • Clementine - awful, hates it
  • Octavia - cars name, ridiculous
  • Etta - doesn’t even sound like a real name, awful
  • Penelope - sounds old fashioned, hates it

A few days ago I came across (and fell in love with) the name Ottilie. It’s unusual but classic, feminine and pretty. I thought it would be uncontroversial! I told him I’d found another name I love and before I even told him what it was he was rolling his eyes like “oh god, here we go”. Before I told him I said “you don’t have to respond straight away when I tell you, just take some time to think about it” - thinking that his automatic reaction seems to be to dismiss the names I suggest but if he thinks about it he might actually like it!

Of course as soon as I said it he said it he said “that is awful, I’m not calling my child otter”. I said “it’s Ottilie, the NN could be Tilly” then he starts telling a story about a pregnant 17 year old called Tilly (he has a public facing job).

He says I’m over-reacting to be annoyed just because he doesn’t like a name but I feel utterly depressed. He brings nothing to the table but it feels like before I even suggest something he’s made his mind up not to like it which feels so disrespectful. I also want to have a name I love, not just settle for something and it feels like I’ve exhausted all those names having gone through thousands to pick out the ones I love.

I feel like most men would be so much more laid back about girl’s names and let their wife take the lead, unless it’s something they truly hate - but how can he truly hate every name I come up with!

OP posts:
Extraenergyneeded · 02/12/2024 09:22

We each made a list of our 10 favourite names for DC1 -none coincided!
They ended up being called something on neither list.

Commonsense22 · 02/12/2024 09:03

Trixiefirecracker · 02/12/2024 07:51

I think it’s just because she expects to get her own way and for some reason believes that because she’s a woman she gets to chose her DD’s name. All these suggestions of both parents coming up with a shortlist have been ignored, I presume because she doesn’t want a grown up conversation about it.

They have been ignored because her DH refuses to do this. The OP would love her DH to suggest some names.

CautiousLurker1 · 02/12/2024 09:02

Plum02 · 02/12/2024 00:12

I said I don’t want to name my child after someone, I’d like to find a name we like in it’s own right as I’d be put off by an association with someone else. That makes sense in the context of the comment you’ve summarised. I said it in a perfectly polite way. You’re trying to insist on turning it into an argument.

Unless you make up a name (see Elon Musk) your child will always be named after someone else, often someone you knew nothing about but often have negative associations for someone. TBH I think your intransigence is driving your DP’s lack of engagement with the process.

I think you are also over invested in the uniqueness thing too. We chose a unique name (3500 in the annual list) for DD. Moved when she was 8m and there was a child with the same name 3 doors down. The health visitor also had a granddaughter with the same two first names, which she blended into a sickeningly twee and Americanised nick name (similar to ‘Peggy-Sue/Lizzy-Lou’). Furthermore, my DD rejected the name entirely by 12, and has since changed it officially. It’s just a name. You gift it to your child and they are free to do with it what they will - shorten it to a version you hate (my DH does not use his full name, only his parents do), or reject it entirely.

My DS has a top 20 name in his year. I loved it, DH felt it was ok if I’d put up with him shortening it (I wasn’t …). And I had, by this time decided that choosing a name to avoid being one of many in the class has been a waste of energy. He is currently in a 6th form class of 7, one of the others has the same name. My DS is over 6ft 3 though, so is just know as ‘Big [insert name]’. He could care less. WHO he is is not his name: it’s the sum of him of which his name is an unimportant and pretty tiny part. Our relationships with our names also change - I have always LOATHED mine (unisex, can be altered into a really horrible slur that made the playground a nightmare). But I’ve grown into myself in my middle years - it’s just a name. Am indifferent to it nowadays.

I’d back down with DP, buy him some beer, treat yourselves to a takeaway and sit completely open-mindedly [on both sides] with a baby name app and find a list of 10 names that you BOTH like and remember, the gorgeous, unique little soul that you are growing together is more than a bunch of letters on a birth certificate.

Plum02 · 02/12/2024 08:27

EconomyClassRockstar · 02/12/2024 01:11

If I was the Op, I'd develop a list that included her absolute favorites and a few names that he might like so they can gently argue about it for the next 7 weeks. Then he will watch you give birth and the last thing you scream as you push that baby out is, " She's called Margot (or whatever your favorite name is), you mother**cker!" and he will be so busy crying and proud of you and not fainting he will say, "Yes, she is!"

Job Done. Namaste.

🤣🤣🤣

OP posts:
Borninabarn32 · 02/12/2024 08:21

The problem isn't really the specific names. He's criticising every name you suggest without suggesting anything himself. My ex did the same. It was just being able to keep telling me I was wrong, it wasn't about the names.

I chose a name, told him that would be our child's name unless he suggested an alternative before our child was born and didn't didcuss it any further. He didn't suggest a single name, ever, never even tried. So we named our child my choice.

Plum02 · 02/12/2024 08:20

Trixiefirecracker · 02/12/2024 07:51

I think it’s just because she expects to get her own way and for some reason believes that because she’s a woman she gets to chose her DD’s name. All these suggestions of both parents coming up with a shortlist have been ignored, I presume because she doesn’t want a grown up conversation about it.

Lol I’ve replied multiple times thanking people for their suggestions and saying I’m going to try suggestions including an app, both highlighting names in baby books, looking up meanings rather than names… maybe read my replies before making weird accusations? I’ve never said I don’t expect him to have an opinion, just that the opinion would consist of something more than dismissing my ideas.

OP posts:
gannett · 02/12/2024 08:12

As a child-free women who isn't au fait with name trends I'm absolutely agog at the news that apparently Ottilie is very popular now. Just why????? I think otters are cute as well but I'm surprised so many mothers want to be put in mind of them when looking at their daughters.

(I can't imagine how researching names could possibly take hours. I could think of 30 decent, varied names in the next 5 minutes and that's a list right there.)

(Obviously OP's husband is not unreasonable to veto her... interesting name choices, but massively unreasonable not to suggest anything himself. Like I just said, it's not hard. 5 minutes, get a list together.)

Trixiefirecracker · 02/12/2024 07:51

mathanxiety · 02/12/2024 03:06

Because she's already dealing g with a useless lump of a husband who railroaded her out of Sebastian for her first baby and bow won't engage with the process of choosing a name for the second baby, even to the point of rolling his eyes and laughing.

My guess is she is feeling pretty raw and reactive about the dismissal of her taste both at home and here.

I think it’s just because she expects to get her own way and for some reason believes that because she’s a woman she gets to chose her DD’s name. All these suggestions of both parents coming up with a shortlist have been ignored, I presume because she doesn’t want a grown up conversation about it.

StormingNorman · 02/12/2024 07:50

Could you suggest less out there alternative to your names? E.g., Victoria instead of Octavia.

StormingNorman · 02/12/2024 07:46

StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 00:36

I don’t think of Margot as Margot Robbie ?
If I had to come up with someone called Margot I’d think of Margot Durrell.

everyone doesn’t think the same

Margot from The Good Life for me.

AncientAndModern1 · 02/12/2024 07:10

Interesting how aerated people get about names. In my experience it can be nice to have a story about why you chose a child’s name to share when they ask why you chose it. Eg one of my children’s names is similar in style to the OP’s list. I think it’s pretty, has a long history and it’s relatively uncommon but I also liked that it was the name of specific powerful women in history and of a favourite fictional character. I like family names as middle names. Obviously the most important thing is to get some positive contributions from your h and the oft-mentioned app might encourage him to engage. My suggestions for names with a similar romantic/vintage feel but maybe less ‘posh’ vibe: Honor, Vita, Vivienne, Nina, Clara, Cora, Lydia, Cecilia, Sophia, Phoebe, Audrey, Ursula, Maud & Felicity. Susan must be due a revival.

Blondeerror · 02/12/2024 06:54

HopefullyHopeless · 01/12/2024 20:48

They're all lovely names. He needs to come up with alternatives if he's dismissing them all.

Agree with this, he needs to come up with some ideas if is dismissing all of yours!

in your shoes I would become irritated by his response to your suggestions. It would feel like having to go to him for “sign off” / approval for the name choices, although he is contributing nothing.

I would create a list of names you like, set a date with him to talk about names, during which he needs to suggest a minimum of 3 that he likes .

good luck!! 🍀 xx

Stressedoutmumof2 · 02/12/2024 06:45

It sounds like your DH likes more traditional names than you have gone for. Maybe you can think about some more classic names and see if he’s more receptive to those and then you can come to some compromise? A colleague at work looked fairly embarrassed to introduce baby Juniper when his wife and baby visited the office and always refers to her as “the baby” outside of this introduction so I think it is important to get a name that both parents like.

Dimpliy · 02/12/2024 06:19

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 01:29

I know someone whose daughters are called Imre and Arika!

Those are common Turkish/Arabic names.

Imre/Emre means friend. Harika means wonderful.

Cheesetoastiees · 02/12/2024 06:15

I’m not keen on any of the names you’ve listed, however it sounds like you like a style of names and your DH doesn’t. He’s allowed not to like names you like. Perhaps ask him to write a list of names he likes and you can look together for a perfect name.

Dimpliy · 02/12/2024 06:15

'I said “it’s Ottilie, the NN could be Tilly'

No, she will be called Utterly Butterly! Don't do it!

Stravaig · 02/12/2024 05:40

There's so much wankpuffery about baby names these days that choosing something completely unremarkable becomes appealing in itself. A reminder that it's not your name anyway, and that some 140 million other babies are born worldwide each year too.

If only as much careful thought went into deciding whether to have a child, and choosing who you'll be co-parenting with for the next 20 years. Angst about what to name them is intelligence and discernment being pointlessly misapplied.

mathanxiety · 02/12/2024 04:11

@Dearover
Whoops!

He's being unkind and dismissive all the same, and strangely unable to match the OP's excitement / nervousness / investment in this important part of getting ready for the baby.

I'd be getting the ick very strongly if I were her. He's treating his pregnant wife very badly.

I'd be interested to know if he treats her like this in general (the eye rolling and dismissiveness) or if this obnoxiousness has just appeared during her pregnancy.

I do think the OP probably feels raw and reactive, as I said. She wasn't asking for opinions on the names. She has had enough of that from her H.

Bigredcombine · 02/12/2024 04:03

'Unless you start making suggestions and more of an interest in naming our DD, we're just going to have to name her one of my suggestions' .... that should do it?

Dearover · 02/12/2024 03:20

mathanxiety · 02/12/2024 03:06

Because she's already dealing g with a useless lump of a husband who railroaded her out of Sebastian for her first baby and bow won't engage with the process of choosing a name for the second baby, even to the point of rolling his eyes and laughing.

My guess is she is feeling pretty raw and reactive about the dismissal of her taste both at home and here.

This is her first baby. They decided not to have a surprise and believe it will be a girl rather than a by.

Dearover · 02/12/2024 03:18

Here's a radical idea. Wait until your baby has arrived safely and decide what to call it then. It's amazing how much character they show within the first hours and days. They might look more like an Emily than an Ophelia once it's a real live person.

mathanxiety · 02/12/2024 03:06

ThatTealViewer · 01/12/2024 23:24

OP, it’s interesting which comments you’re choosing to engage with.

You don’t want suggestions as to how to approach this with your DH, and you’re ignoring people being helpful…you seem to just want to argue with people who don’t like your name choices. To what end?

Because she's already dealing g with a useless lump of a husband who railroaded her out of Sebastian for her first baby and bow won't engage with the process of choosing a name for the second baby, even to the point of rolling his eyes and laughing.

My guess is she is feeling pretty raw and reactive about the dismissal of her taste both at home and here.

mathanxiety · 02/12/2024 03:03

AliceMcK · 01/12/2024 23:31

@Plum02 stop trying. Think of names you like, never mind the research behind the name, who cares what a name means, it’s what it means to you that counts. Tell him he needs to come up with a list of names as he’s causing you totally unnecessary stress, if he can’t then you will be naming your daughter with a name you’ve chosen but won’t be telling him until you’ve registered her so he can’t shit on it! I’d also be telling him he’s being a complete prick.

as a side note, I don’t think the names you have listed are terrible, not my cup of tea but I do know children with these names and they don’t have pretentious parents. My friends granddaughter is Ottilie, but she’s French ( the granddaughter) I think it’s more common there.

All my DDs have names that have meaning to us, named after grandmothers, great grandmothers, grandfather’s favourite name, and other meaningful reasons. DH only vetoed one and I got his reason (name association with a horrible tv character from our childhood).

Agree 100%.

The names you like are not my cup of tea either OP, but they're all currently fashionable and a girl with a name from your list wouldn't stand out.

I don't like the sound of a man who rolls his eyes and laughs at a wife who is more invested than him in this important matter while she's pregnant. He really is being a pillock.

If he won't come up with a list and start showing more engagement with this I'd do exactly as AliceMcK suggests.

mathanxiety · 02/12/2024 02:41

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 01:29

I know someone whose daughters are called Imre and Arika!

Why did they call a girl Imre?

StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 02:33

ItGhoul · 02/12/2024 02:31

I feel like most men would be so much more laid back about girl’s names and let their wife take the lead

What a weird thing to say. Why would a man be any more laid-back about a girl's name than he would about a boy's name? She's his daughter. Her name should be just as important to him as a son's name would be.

how can he truly hate every name I come up with!

Why would that be implausible? The names you like are very much of a type and I think it's perfectly reasonable for him to hate them all. I hate them all as well, so there's no reason why your DH wouldn't/couldn't hate them all too.

Clearly, it would be helpful if he could think of some names that he liked himself. But other than that, I don't understand what he's done wrong other than have different taste to yours.

How many months pregnant are you? Maybe he just can't see the rush to decide on a name. Plenty of parents don't decide on a name until after the baby's born.

OP said 33 weeks

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