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To expect my SIL to keep her aggressive cat away during Xmas?

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juiceboxjuggle · 01/12/2024 17:29

My sister-in-law (SIL), has a cat that’s… let’s just say, difficult. The cat is quite aggressive—she’s bitten me before while I was just sitting on the sofa, scratched my husband simply for sitting too close to her toy, and even leapt at people with claws out from the back of a sofa or armchair. She also has this habit of scratching legs under the table while people are eating. It’s not exactly a relaxing presence.

This Christmas, we’re staying at my parents-in-law’s (PILs) house for two nights, which is non-negotiable with my husband. SIL will also be staying, and, as always, she’ll be bringing her cat. The cat is her world, and last year, when I gently suggested she keep the cat in a separate room during meals, she was really upset. She insists the cat needs to be “free to roam.”

As a result, last Christmas was stressful. Despite my best efforts to keep an eye on my two toddlers, one of them ended up with a big scratch from the cat while swinging their legs under the table—just normal kid behavior. To make matters worse, my husband has also been scratched in the past, simply because the cat was annoyed he wasn’t feeding her.

I’m dreading a repeat of last year and honestly don’t know how to handle this situation. How do I keep my kids safe without upsetting SIL again? I’d love to be able to enjoy a meal without constantly chasing the cat away or worrying about potential injuries. Any advice on how to navigate this?

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Agapornis · 03/12/2024 20:45

I'm a single cat lady with two cats - I get a catsitter over Christmas for two visits a day!
SIL is clearly mentally unwell, if she wanted solutions she'd come up with some. The cat would probably relish some time away from her. MIL is a manipulative twat. Have a lovely peaceful Christmas.

Nanny0gg · 03/12/2024 20:45

ValentinesDayCryingInTheHotel · 01/12/2024 19:08

What are those clacker things that people spin around during football matches, the very loud obnoxious things?

I think your toddlers might be getting one each from Santa this year 😁😁

Tin foil is better

My cats were terrified

Manypaws · 03/12/2024 20:43

I'm sorry op , it's such a bloody mess and it really doesn't need to be

juiceboxjuggle · 03/12/2024 20:42

The funny thing is, this came out of one of their cousins' mouth a few years ago with whom I am good friends... 'it's time for SIL biologically to be bossing a man around, but as there is no man she tries to control the parents and brother"
Referring to the fact that women nag their husbands and play with their moods to get their way (why are you being quiet? Oh it's nothing) but here she does the same to the parents

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juiceboxjuggle · 03/12/2024 20:39

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/12/2024 23:40

@juiceboxjuggle

What is the outcome of MIL's late night journey to SIL's last night ?

SIL cried, MIL sympathised. MIL is still staying there and doing SIL's cleaning and chores during the day whilst SIL works then comforting her in the evenings because SIL is upset that we are treating her cat so poorly (by wanting it excluded).

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juiceboxjuggle · 03/12/2024 20:35

Sorry been absent for a bit, in all honesty I haven't read all the replies but tried to skim as many as I could.

Answering a few questions I've seen...

How old is SIL? She's late 30s.

Does SIL not leave the house for work etc? She does, but never overnight, and she has declined hen dos as she won't leave the cat overnight. She cat free roams at SIL's home and therefore must free roam anywhere.

Why don't we celebrate Xmas with my family? Because I'm from a different culture where Christmas isn't a thing, my family live abroad and we go to visit them instead for significant holidays in our culture.

Which brings me onto my update...
The day after the late drive, MIL calls on video and is insisting that we must come, it won't be Xmas without the grandkids. I said that I don't want to risk the scratches so literally at the first sighting of the kitty we are leaving. MIL started saying about how SIL has had a hard year (she says this every year, hard because she's still single at Xmas), the cat is her everything and it's unfair on SIL to make her feel even worse, it's Xmas after all. SIL is crying and hugging her kitty, how could we be so heartless.
After listening to this a few times on repeat I just said that I understand it's difficult for SIL and it is Christmas - I don't want to ruin hers after a hard year. But my children are my absolute priority so I wish them a lovely Xmas but we are not coming, and with that said I'm booking tickets to my home country. DH got very cross, said if I go then he'll never forget it... so Xmas this year won't be very Xmassy for the kids (my mum literally said "will you help me bake the duck like it should be at Christmas?" so I had to explain it's a turkey and that yes I will) but at least it'll be safe!

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bluebeck · 03/12/2024 20:24

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 03/12/2024 18:53

You will get there and she’ll promise to put the cat in its own room, but when push comes to shove she’ll burst into tears and refuse to do it. Then there will be a massive teary drama in the middle of Christmas Day.

Exactly

SalsaLights · 03/12/2024 20:04

I'm sharing the Reddit boat rocking story because it feels apt for the SIL situation. Long but pertinent.

Don't rock the boat.
I've been thinking about this phrase a lot lately, about how unfair it is. Because we aren't the ones rocking the boat. It's the crazy lady jumping up and down and running side to side. Not the one sitting in the corner quietly not giving a fuck.

At some point in her youth, Mum/MIL gave the boat a little nudge. And look how everyone jumped to steady the boat! So she does it again, and again. Soon her family is in the habit of swaying to counteract the crazy. She moves left, they move right, balance is restored (temporarily). Life goes on. People move on to boats of their own.

The boat-rocker can't survive in a boat by herself. She's never had to face the consequences of her rocking. She'll tip over. So she finds an enabler: someone so proud of his boat-steadying skills that he secretly (or not so secretly) lives for the rocking.

The boat-rocker escalates. The boat-steadier can't manage alone, but can't let the boat tip. After all, he's the best boat-steadier ever, and that can't be true if his boat capsizes, so therefore his boat can't capsize. How can they fix the situation?

Ballast!
And the next generation of boat-steadiers is born.

A born boat-steadier doesn't know what solid ground feels like. He's so used to the constant swaying that anything else feels wrong and he'll fall over. There's a good chance the boat-rocker never taught him to swim either. He'll jump at the slightest twitch like his life depends on it, because it did .

When you're in their boat, you're expected to help steady it. When you decline, the other boat-steadiers get resentful. Look at you, just sitting there while they do all the work! They don't see that you aren't the one making the boat rock. They might not even see the life rafts available for them to get out. All they know is that the boat can't be allowed to tip, and you're not helping.

Now you and your DH get a boat of your own. With him not there, the balance of the boat changes. The remaining boat-steadiers have to work even harder.
While a rocking boat is most concerning to those inside, it does cause ripples. The nearby boats start to worry. They're getting splashed! Somebody do something!

So the flying monkeys are dispatched. Can't you and DH see how much better it is for everyone (else) if you just get back on the boat and keep it steady? It would make their lives so much easier.

You know what would be easier? If they all just chucked the bitch overboard.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 03/12/2024 18:53

You will get there and she’ll promise to put the cat in its own room, but when push comes to shove she’ll burst into tears and refuse to do it. Then there will be a massive teary drama in the middle of Christmas Day.

SnoopysHoose · 03/12/2024 18:00

And the cat can't be separated from SIL
does she not go out to work or vet leave her house?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 03/12/2024 17:54

Just been reading the last lot of posts and concluded that SIL has taken over everyone's headspace from November and up to and beyond Xmas Day.
Its clear how much this is stressing out both you and your DH and its actually causing stress between you as well.

Its up to PILs how much they want to pander to her.

But you don't have to.

Its not fair on your DC to have you both subjected to this stress just because there's a public holiday coming up. Christmas for kids should be full of fun and anticipation - you won't get this time when they are relatively young back again. Don't let inflexible people ruin this time with your children.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 03/12/2024 17:47

juiceboxjuggle · 01/12/2024 22:54

The PILs need to see grandkids on Xmas, "it's not the same" if it's a few days in advance. SIL also can't be left alone on Xmas. And the cat can't be separated from SIL.

PILs and SIL are being utterly controlling.

They are not leaving you any option other than complying with their wishes.

I think you have to weigh up the option of saying no to Christmas visit full stop, stay at home and offer pils a visit in January, and let the flak fall where it may,
or agree to put up with the cat scratch your kids again. (she's not even agreeing to put it in another room whilst you eat?)

LookItsMeAgain · 03/12/2024 13:39

PlacidPenelope · 01/12/2024 18:24

All these posters making suggestions of cat toys, catnip, etc., etc., NO stop pandering to this nonsense - if the cat is there you won't be. If you attend and the cat is there despite being told it won't be turn around and leave and make it known that you will do that if you are lied to.

If PIL want to put the cat ahead of their grandchildren at Christmas, their choice and tell them that clearly, if your SIL wants to put her cat (and her behaviour to her cat is cruel as it is clearly stressed) before Christmas with her nephews/nieces, her choice.

Get off this roundabout, set boundaries and stand up for your children, if your husband won't then he is a poor excuse for a dad.

Edited

I know you've posted an update but if you do decide to travel to the inlaws house, this is the only way to deal with the situation should SiL's cat be there in the end.
Turn around and go home.

Make sure you have food for yourselves in your freezer at home should you decide to do this as you still want to have a Christmas but I'd make sure it's a Christmas on your terms, not theirs.

BlackeyedSusan · 03/12/2024 08:25

PlacidPenelope · 01/12/2024 18:24

All these posters making suggestions of cat toys, catnip, etc., etc., NO stop pandering to this nonsense - if the cat is there you won't be. If you attend and the cat is there despite being told it won't be turn around and leave and make it known that you will do that if you are lied to.

If PIL want to put the cat ahead of their grandchildren at Christmas, their choice and tell them that clearly, if your SIL wants to put her cat (and her behaviour to her cat is cruel as it is clearly stressed) before Christmas with her nephews/nieces, her choice.

Get off this roundabout, set boundaries and stand up for your children, if your husband won't then he is a poor excuse for a dad.

Edited

Put so much better than I managed!

Valeriekat · 03/12/2024 08:21

bluebeck · 01/12/2024 17:38

I would tell DH you aren’t going. You need to prioritise your DC. He can still go if he wants to get savaged by SILS cat

This is the only sensible solution.

EmpressaurusKitty · 03/12/2024 08:16

I was a bloody wreck when I was married & I'm infinitely better as a single, childfree cat mum (for all the ‘no wonder she’s single’ comments).

And because I love my cat so much, I wouldn’t dream of taking her to anyone else’s house when she could be comfortably at home with her fabulous pet sitter visiting twice a day.

SIL must realise that if her cat behaves differently at Christmas, that shows how stressed she is. She’s obviously not putting her cat first.

BlackeyedSusan · 03/12/2024 08:09

juiceboxjuggle · 01/12/2024 18:05

@Tisthesaizon If he doesn’t like conflict why is he ok arguing with you?**

I guess because I'm less dramatic and his family are all hugely worried about ever upsetting SIL because she gets VERY upset about the lack of a man and child

Make it his problem. He needs to know that you do not appreciate him putting a cat above the safety of your kids.

And don't go. Why spend time with people who care so little about the safety of your kids.

HoundsOfSmell · 03/12/2024 07:44

Just get one of those plug in cat things which chills them. I think it’s called feelaway or something. It’s magic. Get a spray too

bitterbuddhist · 03/12/2024 07:31

Brefugee · 02/12/2024 10:14

they both need therapy. Let them do it. Let them realise how utterly, completely and totally batshit this arrangement is.

Agreed with Brefugee here. This is hysteria.

bitterbuddhist · 03/12/2024 07:29

bluebeck · 01/12/2024 17:45

You say “The DC and I are not coming as we don’t want to get injured by the cat.”

Quite. Either you and the children stay home, or you send him on with them to deal with the cat. Your sister in law sounds like a lot of work, I can understand why she's found herself alone.

Or if you must go, take a water pistol, or spray bottle and spray at the cat.

LondonLawyer · 03/12/2024 01:15

Lou670 · 01/12/2024 19:14

I have never known anyone to visit another house and take their cat with them. I would refuse to go as cat bites or scratches are worse than a dog bite for infection. It doesn't take much to get a very bad infection as they carry so many germs underneath their claws and on their teeth. I wouldn't be able to relax with a cat like that around me and my family. For a cat to behave like this there is obviously something very wrong with it. If your SIL is prepared to overlook her cats behaviour and tolerate it then that's up to her but she can't expect everyone else to put up with it.

I've taken my cats with me to my parents' house many times - but it was familiar to them, and they didn't mind it at all. But neither of them liked big gatherings, and would steer well clear of family Christmas crowds.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/12/2024 23:40

@juiceboxjuggle

What is the outcome of MIL's late night journey to SIL's last night ?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/12/2024 19:53

I'd go but insist in advance the cat stays in a different room while the kids are there. It's a compromise

Trust us on this, @Toptops; SIL clearly doesn't want "a compromise" so there are really only two alternatives:

  1. SIL spends day stropping and howling because her baby's shut away
  2. Cat ricochets around with teeth and claws akimbo

Which is why so many of us have suggested simply not going - even those of us whose cats disappear behind the sofa whenever anyone calls, only deigning to grace visitors with their attention when they've been about 6 times

Toptops · 02/12/2024 19:03

I'd go but insist in advance the cat stays in a different room while the kids are there.
It's a compromise.
There is a pattern of unhealthy behaviour going on but you need to protect your children.

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