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To be so upset I’m missing my child’s nativity?

318 replies

charmonachain · 01/12/2024 15:38

Teacher myself … I really wish I’d just called in sick to be honest which I’ll probably be flamed for but I am a tad gutted. Saying so here so I don’t spend tomorrow swearing.

OP posts:
MissJoGrant · 01/12/2024 16:10

Glasgow1996 · 01/12/2024 15:43

Phone in sick!!!!!!

Absolutely do not do this. If you get caught it will be classed as gross misconduct and you could face immediate dismissal.

ThatGutsyHedgehog · 01/12/2024 16:09

Can you offer to take unpaid leave?

MissCherryBrandy · 01/12/2024 16:08

I missed most of my children's nativity performances because my employer, or more specifically my manager, was so inflexible. Private sector, financial services.
Now I'm a manager and I do everything I can to move things around so people in my team have as much flexibility as I can manage. We work for a massive company, but it's the small things that make people a bit happier in their work.

charmonachain · 01/12/2024 16:07

BIWI · 01/12/2024 15:57

Both my parents were teachers, and both sets of grandparents lived 200+ miles away, so I was very used to no-one being there for anything like this that happened at school. I survived!

Great. I’m kind of hoping for more than survival for my kids, I’m picky like that.

The school could do all sorts but they won’t, they have always been awful at stuff like this. I thought they’d improved recently but apparently not!

OP posts:
SwingingFromTheCobwebs · 01/12/2024 16:06

It’s not great but that’s life for many working parents. My mum was a nurse and I can’t remember her ever being at a school event such as a nativity. She also worked most weekends and every other Christmas Day (alternated with New Year). And like most non-school employees she also worked most of the school holidays At least you get Christmas Day with your child if you’re a teacher.

Life is going to get harder than this so I suggest you grow a thicker skin.

Moglet4 · 01/12/2024 16:05

SillySeal · 01/12/2024 15:46

Do they not have anyone who could cover you? Or is it because there are lots of teachers in your school in the same boat?

Seems mean. I get teachers can't take holidays in term time but I do think it is harsh they won't let you have a few hours off to watch your own child. I would be annoyed too OP and I'm not a teacher.

It’s at the discretion of the Head and unfortunately they’re not all supportive. I never got to go to ANYTHING with my eldest because I was never given permission. She’s 13 now and still holds it against me.

mygrandchildrenrock · 01/12/2024 16:03

When I was a class teacher, I always used to tell the children whose parents weren't able to come, that I was watching them and would let their parents know how wonderful they’d been.
There are many perks to being a teacher in terms of hours and holidays but unfortunately your own children’s events aren’t one of them.
As a Headteacher, I tried to cover staff whenever possible but in a small school it wasn’t always possible.

ByDenimSheep · 01/12/2024 16:03

Allswellthatendswelll · 01/12/2024 15:59

What a shame I'd be fuming!

Not all schools are like this. Mine would give you the time off. I'd definitely start thinking about moving. If they are unreasonable about this I bet they are about other things.

The thing with moving schools is you don’t know whether it’s a frying pan into the fire situation.

I could never have time off for things like that but they were very chill with planning expectations and learning walks, book looks etc.

So although it was shitty for the nativity and sports day it was much better the rest of the year.

Onthesideofthespiders · 01/12/2024 16:02

WhitbyBee · 01/12/2024 16:00

It is not meant for a 1 off nativity
There are rules around it. You also cant just take it when you wish if there is a significant reason why it cant be afforded. Need 21 days notice as well.

It is certainly not so you can take an afternoon off for a nativity- there is no should at all for employers

So you are saying that a minimum if 21 days ago the op should have requested a week off unpaid to attend a nativity?

No. But you’re saying parental leave is not for that. You’re wrong. Anyone can use it for what they choose to use it for, and obviously put the request in at the right time.

I wouldn’t use parental leave like this, but another poster suggested that they might. That’s their choice.

elozabet · 01/12/2024 16:01

School management are idiots for not letting staff off to see their own children in a play.

The only thing I consistently missed was sports day as it always clashed the last few lessons before GCSE / A level exams and that took priority.

Autumndayz77 · 01/12/2024 16:00

Do they not do an evening show you can go too?

I always feel for teachers missing their own kids bits at school

WhitbyBee · 01/12/2024 16:00

Onthesideofthespiders · 01/12/2024 15:51

Yes, it is.
Everyone is entitled to 6 weeks unpaid parental leave until your child is 18 (or something like that).
But I think it needs to be taken in blocks of one week at a time? I can’t remember.

But, that’s exactly what it’s for. Unpaid leave for anything you want to do with your child.

It is not meant for a 1 off nativity
There are rules around it. You also cant just take it when you wish if there is a significant reason why it cant be afforded. Need 21 days notice as well.

It is certainly not so you can take an afternoon off for a nativity- there is no should at all for employers

So you are saying that a minimum if 21 days ago the op should have requested a week off unpaid to attend a nativity?

80smonster · 01/12/2024 16:00

Say you’ve had a gas leak or boiler break down, something that isn’t really in your hands. There isn’t much they will do about it, unless you have been off sick many times already.

Allswellthatendswelll · 01/12/2024 15:59

What a shame I'd be fuming!

Not all schools are like this. Mine would give you the time off. I'd definitely start thinking about moving. If they are unreasonable about this I bet they are about other things.

Owmyelbow · 01/12/2024 15:59

I had the same when mine were younger. Particularly gutting the year my DD was Mary :(

madaboutpurple · 01/12/2024 15:58

I have had a thought. For next year ask to have a joint event with your child's school with the idea that it will foster new friendships. This will not help tomorrow.

elozabet · 01/12/2024 15:58

I've only worked in one school that wouldn't let you have time off. Most have just said, find somebody to cover. I'm covering a colleague on Thursday for that very reason.
Next year, don't ask ! Child ill etc
Works as long as you don't work very local. I was far enough away for them to not put two and two together. Serves the school right for being so inflexible.

Also, maybe look for new job with nicer management - they do exist.

oustedbymymate · 01/12/2024 15:57

It's so sad that you can't be afforded the time. Did you offer to take it unpaid too?

Tricking thing with parental leave is that it seems crazy you have ti take a week of unpaid leave to see your child's nativity for what will probably be less than half an hour!!

Problem with phoning in sick if you get caught it's dismissal 😔

BIWI · 01/12/2024 15:57

Both my parents were teachers, and both sets of grandparents lived 200+ miles away, so I was very used to no-one being there for anything like this that happened at school. I survived!

LadyKenya · 01/12/2024 15:57

Glasgow1996 · 01/12/2024 15:49

Awk behave yourself it’s her child!

Would the head be so understanding though, if they found out? I highly doubt it.

Onthesideofthespiders · 01/12/2024 15:56

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 15:54

Right but 1 week unpaid leave is excessive for a nativity plus the school are allowed to say no it's too short notice and give her another week she doesn't even want

I didn’t say that I would use it for this, but another poster explicitly started that this is not what parental leave it.

But it is. It’s for whatever you want.

bridgetreilly · 01/12/2024 15:55

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 15:54

How's that going to make op feel if she's a single parent??

Well, in most cases there is still another parent. Or a grandparent, or someone!

Littletreefrog · 01/12/2024 15:55

Glasgow1996 · 01/12/2024 15:49

Awk behave yourself it’s her child!

And it's a Nativity not a life or death situation.

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 15:54

bridgetreilly · 01/12/2024 15:54

Can the other parent go? I know it’s not the same but at least your child will have someone cheering for them.

How's that going to make op feel if she's a single parent??

TickingAlongNicely · 01/12/2024 15:54

Yanbu to be upset. But you won't be the only one.