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To be so upset I’m missing my child’s nativity?

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charmonachain · 01/12/2024 15:38

Teacher myself … I really wish I’d just called in sick to be honest which I’ll probably be flamed for but I am a tad gutted. Saying so here so I don’t spend tomorrow swearing.

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NewName24 · 01/12/2024 16:29

Of course YANBU to be upset.

Is there not a colleague who would swap their PPA with you ? So you approach the head with a solution rather than a problem ? That's what has happened in schools I've worked in.

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 16:28

charmonachain · 01/12/2024 16:07

Great. I’m kind of hoping for more than survival for my kids, I’m picky like that.

The school could do all sorts but they won’t, they have always been awful at stuff like this. I thought they’d improved recently but apparently not!

Edited

That's so rude to everyone else in the same situation

Caffeineismydrug35 · 01/12/2024 16:27

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 16:26

You have to take it in whole weeks unless your child has a disability

That’s not true. I’ve used it for an afternoon.

Onthesideofthespiders · 01/12/2024 16:27

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 16:25

They can choose it for whatever they want for their child. Not 1 nativity and then the rest of the week off by themselves with no benefit for the child whatsoever

No employer has any way to police that.

Look; you were just wrong. Stop going on about it.

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 16:26

Caffeineismydrug35 · 01/12/2024 16:25

I used Parental Leave for this exact reason. I’ve been a parent and teacher for over twenty years and am sick of missing everything. The last few years, at least once a year I use an afternoon of parental leave to attend something of my children’s. My boss reminded me that you are required to give 21 days notice but we all know that no school gives 21 days notice of a performance.
Edited to add that I’ve taken an afternoon each time, not a week.

Edited

You have to take it in whole weeks unless your child has a disability

Stirrednshaken · 01/12/2024 16:26

Onthesideofthespiders · 01/12/2024 15:51

Yes, it is.
Everyone is entitled to 6 weeks unpaid parental leave until your child is 18 (or something like that).
But I think it needs to be taken in blocks of one week at a time? I can’t remember.

But, that’s exactly what it’s for. Unpaid leave for anything you want to do with your child.

To be taken when it's convenient for the employer basically. Which in teaching is the holidays. So no use at all.

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 16:26

Cromwell1905 · 01/12/2024 16:22

I would have taken missing every play every parent evening and every sports day to be able to have all of the school holidays with my child.

Good point. Does that help OP? You get the actual christmas day off

Caffeineismydrug35 · 01/12/2024 16:25

I used Parental Leave for this exact reason. I’ve been a parent and teacher for over twenty years and am sick of missing everything. The last few years, at least once a year I use an afternoon of parental leave to attend something of my children’s. My boss reminded me that you are required to give 21 days notice but we all know that no school gives 21 days notice of a performance.
Edited to add that I’ve taken an afternoon each time, not a week.

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 16:25

Onthesideofthespiders · 01/12/2024 16:02

No. But you’re saying parental leave is not for that. You’re wrong. Anyone can use it for what they choose to use it for, and obviously put the request in at the right time.

I wouldn’t use parental leave like this, but another poster suggested that they might. That’s their choice.

They can choose it for whatever they want for their child. Not 1 nativity and then the rest of the week off by themselves with no benefit for the child whatsoever

Cromwell1905 · 01/12/2024 16:22

I would have taken missing every play every parent evening and every sports day to be able to have all of the school holidays with my child.

FlabbergastedByTheGorgons · 01/12/2024 16:21

No need to be rude to @BIWI OP. They were trying to make the point that no lasting damage will be done to your child.

Bluevelvetsofa · 01/12/2024 16:21

My children’s school had evening performances, so I could go to those.

I’ve been to pre school and school performances as a grandparent, when parents couldn’t go. Not the same, but better than nothing.

It’s just the way it is very often in teaching.

PuffinCliffs · 01/12/2024 16:20

Call in sick and if they ask for the reason /return to work conversation cite diarrhoea.

You might as well just announce you are using your sick leave to go to a nativity, that you had already been turned down for, as do this. If your schools aren’t 30 miles apart (and even then) word would have got back to your school before you have.

Littletreefrog · 01/12/2024 16:20

There are a lot of jobs that aren't teaching that can't facilitate people taking time of for Nativities etc.

The teachers always sooth the parents by saying the children don't really mind and that it shows how confident they are to perform with no parent there and it builds resilience etc etc.

Then you find teachers talking about pulling Sickies and leaving teaching because they can't go to their own child's Nativity.

ByDenimSheep · 01/12/2024 16:19

Octavia64 · 01/12/2024 16:17

Most schools do at least one "evening" performance these days.

No chance of that?

The school I’m in at the moment is doing 1 afternoon performance.
Just one if you can’t make it you can’t make it - there has been quite a backlash from separated parents who can’t go together be in the same room.

Octavia64 · 01/12/2024 16:17

Most schools do at least one "evening" performance these days.

No chance of that?

Allswellthatendswelll · 01/12/2024 16:17

charmonachain · 01/12/2024 16:07

Great. I’m kind of hoping for more than survival for my kids, I’m picky like that.

The school could do all sorts but they won’t, they have always been awful at stuff like this. I thought they’d improved recently but apparently not!

Edited

Yes and you would think a school of all places would value the experiences and wellbeing of children!

Nomorecoconutboosts · 01/12/2024 16:17

I’m a nurse so usually managed to get time off in the week for things like this BUT missed out on weekend and bank holiday stuff. Sometimes I was very sad and disappointed but this is the job I chose. In your position I’d be disappointed and frustrated that my manager was so inflexible.
Perhaps arrange to take your dc out for a little treat after school so they can tell you all about it. Not the same I know but sometimes we have to focus on what we can do not what we can’t.

VexedofVirginiaWater · 01/12/2024 16:17

Yeah I know, it's shit - I had my kids in the 80s and I never saw a nativity in the infants because they were during the day. The juniors had theirs in the evening so I saw those - but I really missed seeing them when they were 4 and 5. Fortunately we had grandparents relatively locally so they went instead and the kids didn't feel left out. Also in those days they did used to do a video (I know they can't now - and for good reasons).

ilovesooty · 01/12/2024 16:17

VickyEadieofThigh · 01/12/2024 15:44

And then make an appearance at another school, in front of a shedload of witnesses? Go straight to suspension and possible dismissal for unprofessional conduct.

Exactly. Ridiculous idea.

Allswellthatendswelll · 01/12/2024 16:15

ByDenimSheep · 01/12/2024 16:03

The thing with moving schools is you don’t know whether it’s a frying pan into the fire situation.

I could never have time off for things like that but they were very chill with planning expectations and learning walks, book looks etc.

So although it was shitty for the nativity and sports day it was much better the rest of the year.

Yes this is true no school is perfect and your overall work life balance is hugely important to your children.

However I do think these things are quite indicative of how how much a school values staff wellbeing and how supportive they are with other stuff.

pumpkinpillow · 01/12/2024 16:13

There will be many working parents missing the nativity and very many other day time events over the years. Most parents can't go to everything.

I was always thankful that our primary school had an evening nativity.

FrodisCapering · 01/12/2024 16:12

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CandyCane457 · 01/12/2024 16:11

It is rubbish isn’t it. I think head teachers say no because then non-parents start with the “well am I allowed a half day?”… this is what happened in my school anyway. A few years ago our head made allowances for things like this, but then put a stop to it as it was causing too many issues. But now we have a new head and he has put a well-being day in place, where we are all allowed one day (or two half days) in a year to take off when we want, so we don’t have this problem anymore. I know this doesn’t help you though OP!

charmonachain · 01/12/2024 16:10

I’m sure I could. It isn’t the money. They aren’t letting me. They never do; I’m annoyed at myself for asking!

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