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JustWondering222 · 01/12/2024 10:47

My 10yr old received a horrendous text last night (honestly I've never seen anything like it. So many swear words, telling him to kill himself 😧 telling him to suck pussy, telling him everyone hates him (the f word was used quite a few times as were other foul swear words.. basically every other word was a swear word and the general message was to go kill yourself because you r the worst of the worst) from someone that's normally a good friend. I was really shocked because my DC is quite innocent and didn't even understand half the message or half the words used.

I sent the mum a screenshot so she can ask her child about it and have talked to my DC about it and he feels ok. I praised him for showing me the text. He knows I've texted the mum so is worried he'll get called a snitch, but otherwise he's fine. I've reassured him he did the right thing. He's quite popular at school and has never been bullied or received anything like this before. The two boys are normally good friends and have a lovely friendship group. They've known each other several years, had playdates etc..

My question is, is it enough just to raise this with the boys mum, or would you also mention something to school? (I'm just quite shocked at the language and venom coming out of a 10yr old. I'm a bit worried about the boy to be honest.. Also a bit worried because another child might get v upset by this kind of message. My son has another friend that is very vulnerable and has sen and the boy that sent the message previously had a falling out with this child. If he sent such a text to this boy, or another like him, it would likely quite severely impact them.)

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Brightredtulips · 01/12/2024 19:46

Please let the school know and show them the message. If you have a campus police officer also show them. This is serious and it may also be a child protection issue for the other child too

shimmeringlight · 01/12/2024 19:41

The reason I say school is that they can elevate it to a school issue and have talk about online bullying and safe online practices. They can message parents generally about safe online practices. They can keep an eye on this boy and it will encourage any other parents of kids who receive any form of online bullying to report too.
I can tell you from experience that dealing directly with other parents may not work out well for any of the kids involved. There are some batshit parents out there.

notacooldad · 01/12/2024 19:37

Not only am I concerned for your son as this an upsetting thing to expierence but also for the other child if this is so out of character for him.
My first thought would be another kid playing a cruel joke or to stir the pot between the two. However if this is ruled out I'd be really concerned with what's going on with him. I know people will say it's all about your child, and that's true but safeguarding is everyone's buisness and this child may need help and support from outside his family.
I maybe completely wrong of course, but I'd like to see a child supported and helped if needed.

GivingitToGod · 01/12/2024 19:35

LimeYellow · 01/12/2024 10:53

Yes I would definitely tell the school.

Ditto
Other children need to be safeguarded against receiving same

Tittat50 · 01/12/2024 19:30

OP I've seen weird posts on TTok joking about ' go kill yourself '. It's almost like the full relevance and implications of this aren't entirely understood by some younger brains. I am not excusing it, because it's wrong and concerning.

I've seen it used during gaming as a 'joke' expression.

You're now prepared for the hell that may ensue come secondary where even if yours isn't onSMedia outside of TTok, peers will be.

You'll need to scan the phone daily is my advice now we are dealing with all sorts of horrors.

My conclusion, this stuff is god damn dangerous.

shimmeringlight · 01/12/2024 19:30

JustWondering222 · 01/12/2024 10:56

I haven't heard back from the mum yet. Shes really lovely so I expect the text will be full of profuse apologies ...

Definitely tell the school.

JustWondering222 · 01/12/2024 19:27

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 01/12/2024 19:06

im glad you are telling the school. For all you know this may not be the first message the child has sent. you already said there is a vulnerable child who could be distressed at something like this.

Don't feel guilty about the other mum. Its a very positive sign that both she and her child have apologised. She is probably glad she knows directly from you, than not knowing at all.
You are not betraying her by telling the school, you could be preventing an escalation of the situation which could have a much greater impact on her child. This needs to be sorted out and you have done all you can. Its good that the school will be taking over the responsibility. It is easier for them to mediate.
I would take a bit of a step back for a while.

Could it be that the boy is upset that they are going to different schools and thinks he might be left behind?

I hope your boy is feeling OK now that you've had an apology

Thank you

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MeridianB · 01/12/2024 19:26

Sorry this has happened to your son as it can only change the relationship with this friend and dent his trust.

Please please tell the school. This is not about getting the boy into trouble but keeping your son and others safe. And flagging that this child may need help. It can only be a good thing to let them know.

As an aside, I can’t believe the mother hasn’t rung you, esp as she is a friend. It sounds as if she is under-reacting. I would be cooling things right down with their son and with them unless they step up.

JustWondering222 · 01/12/2024 19:24

JustWondering222 · 01/12/2024 19:23

Apologies. I didn't mean to make light. I learnt about Breck Bednar a few years ago and was deeply moved by what happened to him. I see a lot of my oldest son in him and he seemed like such a lovely boy with lovely parents. I in no way meant to refer to him in any way as to cause offence. I apologise if that was the case or I did that. I chose my words poorly. I am sorry.

I have been moved by the way that Breck's family wanted to raise awareness and use a film about their son to raise awareness of online safety. It is because of them, and Breckland, that I feel empowered to keep my own children safe from online harm.

I apologise for any offence caused.

Sorry I mean Breck not Breckland, I'm all fingers and thumbs this evening. Apologies.

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Anonycat · 01/12/2024 19:24

You did not do it the wrong way round. You were absolutely right.

OliveWoe · 01/12/2024 19:24

I've only read your posts @JustWondering222, so apologies if this has already been suggested, but I wondered if perhaps this boy had been sent the message by someone else, and not knowing what to do about it, simply forwarded it on to your DS, knowing that he would raise it with you. Perhaps he felt really upset, and his first thought was to pass the "upset/scared" feelings on to somebody else? I don't know, it was just something that came to mind - I'm sure the boy's Mum will be having a good look at his phone today anyway, but worth checking to see if this message was sent to him originally.

JustWondering222 · 01/12/2024 19:23

JawsCushion · 01/12/2024 19:11

Why have you typed 'breck'?

Breck Bednar was a real person who was murdered and doesn't deserve to be referred to like that.

Apologies. I didn't mean to make light. I learnt about Breck Bednar a few years ago and was deeply moved by what happened to him. I see a lot of my oldest son in him and he seemed like such a lovely boy with lovely parents. I in no way meant to refer to him in any way as to cause offence. I apologise if that was the case or I did that. I chose my words poorly. I am sorry.

I have been moved by the way that Breck's family wanted to raise awareness and use a film about their son to raise awareness of online safety. It is because of them, and Breckland, that I feel empowered to keep my own children safe from online harm.

I apologise for any offence caused.

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cardibach · 01/12/2024 19:20

Allfur · 01/12/2024 18:26

Absolutely not irrelavent, they're too young for smart phones

That’s a different discussion. A smart phone didn’t cause this or make it easier. A text to a dumb phone would have done the same. Or it could have been written on paper. Or spoken.

XWKD · 01/12/2024 19:19

Shouldn't this level of bullying be a police matter? The fact that you know the bully and his mother don't change the fact that this is extreme bullying.

LivelyMintViper · 01/12/2024 19:17

I started to say poor ! I can't edit!

LivelyMintViper · 01/12/2024 19:16

Rosscameasdoody · 01/12/2024 18:58

Whatever the cause, it’s not acceptable.

Agreed. Didn't say it was! Poo

JawsCushion · 01/12/2024 19:11

Why have you typed 'breck'?

Breck Bednar was a real person who was murdered and doesn't deserve to be referred to like that.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 01/12/2024 19:06

im glad you are telling the school. For all you know this may not be the first message the child has sent. you already said there is a vulnerable child who could be distressed at something like this.

Don't feel guilty about the other mum. Its a very positive sign that both she and her child have apologised. She is probably glad she knows directly from you, than not knowing at all.
You are not betraying her by telling the school, you could be preventing an escalation of the situation which could have a much greater impact on her child. This needs to be sorted out and you have done all you can. Its good that the school will be taking over the responsibility. It is easier for them to mediate.
I would take a bit of a step back for a while.

Could it be that the boy is upset that they are going to different schools and thinks he might be left behind?

I hope your boy is feeling OK now that you've had an apology

Corinthiana · 01/12/2024 19:04

Loveandlaughter18 · 01/12/2024 18:59

Eh! Dumb phones as a police officer suggested. I think I'd be inclined to take their advice.

Absolutely. A smartphone is not a good idea for 10 year olds.

GameOfJones · 01/12/2024 19:01

I would be very concerned about a 10 year old knowing that sort of language, particularly as some of it is sexual in nature. Please, please inform the school and send them a screenshot of the message so they are aware.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/12/2024 18:59

MrsJRHartley · 01/12/2024 18:47

This.

The child is ten. The age of criminal responsibility.

Loveandlaughter18 · 01/12/2024 18:59

EdithBond · 01/12/2024 18:31

Most kids have a phone in Year 6 these days.

Always better to have open communication with your kids, teach them of the dangers without scaring them too much and teach them how to be sensible and safe.

Same with drugs, sex etc. You can’t shelter them forever by saying don’t have it or do it or pretending it doesn’t happen. Better to teach them how to be safe.

Eh! Dumb phones as a police officer suggested. I think I'd be inclined to take their advice.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/12/2024 18:58

LivelyMintViper · 01/12/2024 18:50

It's possible that what caused this outburst was something very trivial by adult standards. At one of my daughters birthday parties a child became extremely upset almost hysterical. She was so incoherent it took quite a while for me to discover exactly what had upset her. I was horrified. I knew this child well and she was a very sensible confident little girl.
It turned out another child had said that her mother's wallpaper was crap. That was it nothing else. This other child had never been in her house and her mother didn't actually have wallpaper.

Whatever the cause, it’s not acceptable.

JSMill · 01/12/2024 18:57

Op I work in a school. While I see how much time dealing with these things takes, we absolutely do not want our pupils to be dealing with something like that. Things that happen outside of school never stay outside of school so the teachers need to know.

Ivyiris · 01/12/2024 18:57

I would tell the school so they can look out for any bullying or anything else. If you are happy with apology and the other mums punishment then tell the school that. More to just share information?