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Children need community

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theprincessthepea · 01/12/2024 09:33

AIBU for thinking that children and young people thrive when they are in an environment where there are multiple people looking out for them and the responsibility doesn’t solely fall on mum and dad.

Yes, legally the parents are the primary caregivers and do a majority of the work. I’ve just noticed so many threads where people seem offended at the idea that some grandparents want to get as hands on as the parents sometimes when it comes to care, or the debate of childfree friends vs friends with children whereby as soon as you have kids nobody is interested.

I grew up in the 90s/00s and yes, my mum and dad were with me all the time, but we also spent a lot of time with other people - aunties, we were always at my mums friends houses, and there was a community of adults. In my neighbourhood I knew pretty much all the adults - who to stay away from and who would look out for us whilst we played out.

I find these days young people don’t have that in the same way. We are all in our little family bubbles with the internet. Not much interaction with other people because we are all busy - and being a child seems so stale when it’s that way.

I’ll add I have 2 kids - I had my daughter young - and yes this meant that I wasn’t out and about as much as my friends - but I was amazed at how involved they were and still are in my daughters life and my family are like second parents - I hated it at first but now that she is a teen (and I’m starting to annoy her haha!) it’s so nice to know that she has other adults that I trust, that she can be around.

I understand circumstances are different and we don’t all have the support we need but surly being part of a community is super important and can makes both your experience as a young person better and the experience of raising children more pleasant.

If I think about the summer holidays - our favourite moments are interacting with people.

Im not saying to dump our children with anyone and everyone either. Or to force people to be with kids as I get not everyone cares enough (or has to).

OP posts:
Jumpyjuney · 02/12/2024 01:37

I agree but as an only child mum of one it's hard

theprincessthepea · 02/12/2024 01:18

As I was typing I was thinking about how careful we have to be as yes, there are people that abuse children - however I am noticing that there is more awareness around this now. I also don’t necessarily mean having lots of people to babysit - but more so having a support network of people - I agree with Octavia64 that this can come in the form of school and institutions etc.

@BlueSilverCats I have friends who cannot leave their children with relatives because of similar reasons.

@Octavia64 I agree with the study - having at least one person who cares is better than having no one who cares. But surely having a villge that looks out for you, not just the child, but the family, can make that unit stronger?

@Girliefriendlikespuppies I also raised my daughter alone and whilst I know I have given her everything in my power, I know that I couldn’t have done it alone and I love seeing how close she is with family.

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Girliefriendlikespuppies · 01/12/2024 10:11

I agree, I am a single parent with one teen dd so have made a lot of effort to invest in extended family and friends so dd still feels part of a wider community.

I'm lucky that my parents and sibling still lives close by, I also have close friends that I grew up with that have been actively involved in dds life.

Community is important for everyone imo.

PrincessPeache · 01/12/2024 09:59

I agree and I’m lucky my child has this. My parents are very involved with all of their grandchildren and often have them over for sleepovers, I’m always babysitting my nephews and having them here to stay over. I want it to be like a second home for them and my son really benefits from that. He also gets it from our scouting community where there are a number of trusted adults who he is happy to go off with at camps and days out etc and he has formed really special relationships with them. He has had a lot of loss in his life so this is important to me that he is a part of a bigger family than just us.

Octavia64 · 01/12/2024 09:59

In cases where there is significant abuse from parents the evidence is that having just one adult who is interested in a child and cares about them can have a significant positive impact.

There's a surprisingly large amount of abuse and neglect out there.

A lot of the "village" these days is in institutions. Pre schools, nursery, schools. I worked in a school for many years and our pastoral team went above and beyond. I remember one in particular who spent the night with a girl who had tried to kill herself in hospital when the parents were nowhere to be seen.

There's also brownies, scouts, and for older teens the village can be army/air/st John cadets.

NuffSaidSam · 01/12/2024 09:54

I agree OP, multiple interested and caring adults is better than just two. Having a shared childhood with multiple children rather than just your own siblings offers far more possibilities for later connection.

Obviously, the presence of abusive or toxic relationships is bad, but it's also bad to let the fear of abuse/toxicity limit your child's interactions with other people.

YellowHatt · 01/12/2024 09:49

It depends on the type of person children are surrounded by: one or two good caregivers are better than a village of people who will impact them negatively.

Newrumpus · 01/12/2024 09:44

Totally. My kids grew up in a village where neighbours would tell them off if they crossed the road without looking, fetch them home if they fell off their bike, let me know if their den had become and eye sore etc. They knew which door to knock on if ever there was an emergency. I trust my neighbours and they trust me. There is no anti-social behaviour in the village because all the kids now that all the adults know one another.
A young child’s social group should be Immediate family then wider family then friends and neighbours before they start school in order to be well adapted for Reception.

BlueSilverCats · 01/12/2024 09:43

As you say, circumstances differ.

My MIL's advice when DD was crying non stop as a 3 month old baby, was to leave her crying in her cot, shut the door and turn the radio up really loudly. Was I supposed to trust her to look after DD ? She had no interest in her anyway, so it's a moot point, but still.

Moving away or frequently, toxic or abusive childhoods etc mean that people aren't as connected as before. Sometimes, that's actually better for the children, rather than continuing the intragenerational trauma.

RoamingGnome · 01/12/2024 09:41

I'd love to see a study on this - but I'm not terribly convinced a 'community' or the mythical 'village' has much impact if your immediate family are caring and there are no adverse events (poverty, bereavement, addiction, abuse or neglect).
If anything being left with multiple different adults increases the risk of abuse - I see many people professionally who were abused by 'trusted adults' (often from the extended family, although sadly the dad or stepdad are probably commonest).
My parents moved for work many hours drive from nearest relatives so although relationships with aunts/uncles/gp were good we'd only see them max 3 times a year on visits. Can't say it bothered me as a child or adult.