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How to word in my will that I don't want estranged parent at my funeral?

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sarah010179 · 01/12/2024 09:29

with the new year approaching, I'm getting my financial affairs and paperwork in order. One of the things will be to write a will.
I have an outline of my wishes and one of the most important things to me is that an estranged (very toxic) parents does not attend my funeral or graveside. How do I word this in a professional but clear sounding way? Unfortunately, I have no faith that my other parent would respect this wish (they have form for going against my wishes on serious matters), so I want it written in some kind of official, unambiguous way that the estranged parent doesn't attend and gets asked to leave/removed if they show up. Ideas?

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Dotto · 01/12/2024 10:59

I think the only way to stop someone coming to a funeral, realistically, is to have trusted people sworn to secrecy, or not to have a funeral. Funeral directors will refuse to act as security. They simply won't do it.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 01/12/2024 10:58

BMW6 · 01/12/2024 09:36

As above, wills are read AFTER funerals generally and funerals are public events.

Can you tell your nearest loved ones your wishes?

Wills are made available to the named executors almost immediately after death. Wills often contain funeral and burial instructions so of course executors and solicitor will know the contents.

If by "read" you mean read out at a meeting of the family that's fictional bollocks.

pestowithwalnuts · 01/12/2024 10:57

Who would stop them from coming into the funeral? Who would give that task to ?

NewFriendlyLadybird · 01/12/2024 10:57

To be blunt, you’ll be dead. You won’t know if they come or not, and it won’t make the slightest bit of difference to you.

It sounds to me that estrangement is not enough for you. You feel the need to make a final ‘fuck you’ statement— and have a go at the other parent into the bargain. I’m not sure it would be worth the emotional energy. Try to put them to the back of your mind, ensure that they do not benefit in any way from your will, but don’t overthink your funeral, which is not for you anyway, but for those who are still alive.

Katbum · 01/12/2024 10:56

You can't stop someone from attending an event from beyond the grave. It is a waste of your emotional energy to agonise over this. Simply write a line the will or in a seperate letter that says 'X parent is unwelcome at any funeral or memorial held' and move on.

Saturdayssandwichsociety · 01/12/2024 10:53

sarah010179 · 01/12/2024 09:39

Thanks for the replies so far, greatly appreciated x
So if I write a pre-funeral letter specifically about funeral arrangements or perhaps addressed to a funeral director, how would I word that I don't want that person to attend under any circumstances? I need to be quite assertive because my other parent has form for whitewashing and glossing over the reasons why my siblings and I disowned other parent. Remaining parent is the sort to agree to have them there, "to keep the peace" or "for a quiet life". etc.
Yes, there's a high chance I might predecease both parents.

If you dont trust your other parent you need to ensure they are not the one organising, and thus 'hosting' your funeral.
Ultimately anyone could tell the estranged parent the location /time of the funeral but it will be whoever is hosting the event that would be in a position to bar them entry or ask them to leave.
Its not going to be possible to guarantee they are not there - you seem to imagine that if it's in your will that somehow formalises it and sort of makes it legally binding in some way but for a request like this, thats not the case.

daisychain01 · 01/12/2024 10:52

If your parent has been vile / toxic to you during your life, and you do pre-decease them, comfort yourself that there is a high likelihood they won't know when you're dead nor the funeral arrangements and won't be bothered to come to your funeral anyway, why would they.

i wouldn't emburden a funeral director with the job of blocking an unwanted relative, in the main they already do a great job of dealing with the practicalities and logistics at a very difficult time, it would be the last thing they need to have to navigate through.

Branster · 01/12/2024 10:49

You can write a letter however way you want to and address it to anyone you want to.
It would be impossible to guarantee such a wish would be respected and it certainly cannot be enforced.
You are wasting time, energy and emotions on something that cannot be set in place.
Why would you care anyway, you'd be dead. And the parent in question will most likely die before you will.

newfluffybag · 01/12/2024 10:49

Catza · 01/12/2024 09:34

Your will is not going to be read before your funeral. There is a legal process which can take months before the will becomes available to the executor.

That's incorrect. People leave funeral instructions in their Will, whether burial or cremation. This would normally be checked as soon as a person has died.

Dotto · 01/12/2024 10:47

Ponoka7 · 01/12/2024 10:39

If there are no suspicious circumstances and the will is bring held by a solicitor, very often the funeral is happening alongside to access to the will. We'd had the funeral before my Mother's bank accounts etc were closed. We'd only claimed the life insurances via the death certificate. It depends on how busy people are, were they live re proximity, who is executor etc.

I've had to opt for a direct cremation to protect my youngest from toxic relatives.

The will is obtainable within maximum of a few days if it is being stored by a solicitor, upon presentation of the death certificate and the executor's ID.

daisychain01 · 01/12/2024 10:47

BIossomtoes · 01/12/2024 09:40

You’ll be dead. Why do you care?

You do realise that life doesn't always work like that....

Eyresandgraces · 01/12/2024 10:44

Why would anyone want to exert control beyond their death?
It smacks of narcissism.

I sincerely hope my bil doesn’t come to my funeral but as he and his dw could hire themselves out as professional mourners with a stellar cv I’ve accepted that they may well attend.
I don’t let it worry me because I’ll be dead.

ThinWomansBrain · 01/12/2024 10:43

Write in the letter that you do not want him there, and that you understand that your siblings would like to attend in peace - as you've stated in this post.

At the end of the day, in the normal run of things, children don;t pre-decease parents, but if you do and if he does turn up, you won't know about it. It seems a bizarre thing to be so concerned about.

I have a relative (not a parent) who abused me as a child - have been NC for 40 years - but I can't get worked up about whether he attends my funeral or not,
At most a bit miffed at missing out on the joy his death.

BeNavyCrab · 01/12/2024 10:43

I think that telling your funeral directors is the best policy. Saying something like "Due to the relationship I had with my parents during my lifetime, I would like all efforts to be made to ensure that they don't attend my funeral. Should they turn up uninvited, I would ask that you politely request them to leave, so as not to distress the other guests who are welcome. I would also ask that you don't supply them with an order of service or any other form of keepsake such as the funeral flowers"

You don't have to specify why, just let them know what you would prefer and hopefully they will honour it as best they can.

MoralOrLegal · 01/12/2024 10:43

In my own experience, what happens to the deceased's body, and what happens to their assets/finances (which is the main point of a will), are two different processes which can go at different speeds depending on the details. The best thing is to keep next-of-kin/executor informed about your wishes (and give them a copy of the will).

lolly792 · 01/12/2024 10:41

Direct cremation as others have suggested

I also like the idea from a pp of holding some sort of celebration before you die (if you have reason to think you may die prematurely)
It means the family and friends you'd want to celebrate your life can do it with you, with no risk of anyone you don't want to be there.

Then instructions for a direct cremation.

Ponoka7 · 01/12/2024 10:39

Dotto · 01/12/2024 09:43

Where are people getting all these nonsense ideas about when a will is available and executed? American TV / films? There is no legal process in the UK that means an executor has to wait until after a funeral to access the will.

Edited

If there are no suspicious circumstances and the will is bring held by a solicitor, very often the funeral is happening alongside to access to the will. We'd had the funeral before my Mother's bank accounts etc were closed. We'd only claimed the life insurances via the death certificate. It depends on how busy people are, were they live re proximity, who is executor etc.

I've had to opt for a direct cremation to protect my youngest from toxic relatives.

Pluvia · 01/12/2024 10:38

BIossomtoes · 01/12/2024 09:40

You’ll be dead. Why do you care?

This. You won't care. It won't matter.

Flamez · 01/12/2024 10:38

Have a direct cremation. Then your family can have a wake in their own time to celebrate your life. We did this with FIL.

user1492757084 · 01/12/2024 10:35

I have been to a number of funerals where the deceased has pre-arranged the whole event.
Because of that, everyone was extra respectful of not diregarding the details.

Another thing I have encountered, which might be nice for you, is a living wake.The very sick person invited all their friends and had a wake before death. It was a lovely way to say goodbye. (Op could invite only one parent, and give very short notice of the occasion.) Then the person did not have a funeral.

A relative had no funeral also; they donated their body to science.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 01/12/2024 10:32

sarah010179 · 01/12/2024 09:39

Thanks for the replies so far, greatly appreciated x
So if I write a pre-funeral letter specifically about funeral arrangements or perhaps addressed to a funeral director, how would I word that I don't want that person to attend under any circumstances? I need to be quite assertive because my other parent has form for whitewashing and glossing over the reasons why my siblings and I disowned other parent. Remaining parent is the sort to agree to have them there, "to keep the peace" or "for a quiet life". etc.
Yes, there's a high chance I might predecease both parents.

To be honest, that is their perogative. It won't affect you either way as you'll be dead...an easy life for those left behind you is more important.

Loopylu60 · 01/12/2024 10:31

bluebeck · 01/12/2024 10:00

You can’t ban someone from attending a funeral at a church or crematorium.

Correct but you can prevent them from finding out the details - op who is likely to let them know?

the only sure fire way would be to have a prearranged no mourners present cremation and then get a trusted person to scatter your ashes at an unknown location but this may be hard on other mourners - however they could have a wake at a private address which would enable them to refuse entry

Zanatdy · 01/12/2024 10:30

zero point wasting energy on this. Chances are they will be gone before you, but even if not, no-one can bar anyone from a funeral.

tuvamoodyson · 01/12/2024 10:30

Direct cremation…

zingally · 01/12/2024 10:29

You can't really... Funerals are open to the public, and short of privately hired heavies on the door (which would likely cause a huge scene), then you can't really do anything. There's no point putting anything in your Will, as they often take months after the funeral to make themselves known.

The wake can definitely be an invitation only event, and doesn't have to be on the same day as the funeral, so weird parent need never know anything about it. There can just be a generic announcement at the service that "invitations to the wake will be issued in due course."

But with all due respect... You'll be dead, so wouldn't know if they turn up or not.