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To resent that my husbands macho-ness is rubbing on to my sons

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ThrowWyNov24 · 30/11/2024 18:53

So, 10 years ago I (then 37) met a guy on holiday in the Middle East on a business trip. He was a manager at one of the airlines, a bit younger than me. I had issues with luggage and was at my wits' end with the bureaucracy, and let's just say he helped me out, and we stayed in touch.
Three years later, he moved to England for work, and we started talking. Talking led to coffee, coffee led to meals, and before long, we were an item. He proposed three months later, and we married, despite some concerns from his family.
His mother is Christian, his father Muslim, and he takes after his dad, though in a more relaxed way... Anyway, moving on to the present. I have two 14-year-old twin sons from a previous marriage to a shitty ex who is now out of our lives. My sons really look up to my husband, and he is very close to them. They go cycling every Saturday morning, he takes them swimming twice a week, and we also do a lot of family outings together.
However, I'm starting to feel like his way of encouraging them to be 'men' is rubbing off in ways I’m not sure I’m comfortable with. He often tells them to "fight back," "be a man," or to toughen up. He’s not abusive or anything like that, but his approach is very focused on masculinity—especially when it comes to discipline, schoolwork, and things like cleaning up.
It works in the sense that they’re motivated to get things done and they’re thriving in all sorts of ways , but the whole 'toughen up' and ‘man up’ attitude feels a bit outdated, and it clashes with my own very North London lefty liberal feminist worldview. And it’s changing them too as they seem I don’t know… just different from their cousins etc.
I don’t mean to undermine him or all but I would really appreciate your thoughts?

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TiramisuThief · 30/11/2024 19:18

I know what you're getting at but honestly he doesn't have to do things the same way as you. It's good to have diversity of views/ personality.

Does he encourage them to be respectful to women in how he speaks to you and about other people?

He sounds like a pretty decent guy and a good role model for teen boys. Aren't you glad he's bonded with them and takes an interest in their development as people?

He might feel it doesn't do teens any good to indulge them in moods/minor problems. I guess if something more serious occurred like if one of them was struggling with bullying or depression and he was still unsympathetic that would be a problem but it doesn't sound like it's quite there.

GoodLaudanum · 30/11/2024 19:17

As long as it's balanced with talking about their own feelings and caring for others (your influence perhaps), there's nothing wrong with mental strength, standing your ground, speaking up, developing good discipline for health and work.

Perhaps see how you can yin and yang it so your children grow up with the best of both worlds.

BrieHugger · 30/11/2024 19:13

Catlover1705 · 30/11/2024 19:09

Telling them to toughen up is getting them to suppress their emotions. This might mean they become withdrawn.

Or that it’s teaching them resilience, which might mean they become determined and ambitious.

Fine line, yes. I love cats too

curious79 · 30/11/2024 19:12

There’s psychological research out there that shows it’s good for boys to have that male influence, and also that men nurture and raise children in very different ways. They’re more likely to do rough and tumble and be disciplined, less tolerant. There’s a place for it

Doobeedoodoo · 30/11/2024 19:12

Your DH encourages them to clean up? Among other things that don’t sound extreme and quite character building? That is very good news, id nothing elsd they will have better relationships as a result, look at these boards with all the cocklodgers and men who can’t do any tidying up without being told.
well done you DH i’d say.

CrispyCrumpets · 30/11/2024 19:11

Can't really tell what the issue is as you haven't really given examples.

Anotherworrier · 30/11/2024 19:10

But it was your choice to introduce this man into your children’s life? You’re just as responsible, what did you expect to happen?

Ablondiebutagoody · 30/11/2024 19:10

He sounds like a wonderful influence to me.

Catlover1705 · 30/11/2024 19:09

Telling them to toughen up is getting them to suppress their emotions. This might mean they become withdrawn.

yehisaidit · 30/11/2024 19:08

Have you talked to him about it and your views?

In what way do they seem different?

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