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For not wanting our friend couple to bring baby over to our house?

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Samatha09 · 30/11/2024 11:45

Hello dear people, my good friend (lets call her Ava) had her first baby for 11 months ago. A sweet baby girl. Me and my partner used to invite ava and her partner over for dinner and game nights, movie nights and vica versa (before baby). Now we have mostly gone at their home, my and my partner prefer that. Also they have everything the baby needs at their home, changing table, dining chair, toys ect. We also don’t have a childproof home. Decorations at floor and that. Since i know they let baby crawl around to explore.

Don’t want baby to ruin our stuff like get spit up or for the baby to eat or choke on something. I kinda feel like they getting disapointed on us, but she also implies that it won’t be easy to play board games or watch a movie with baby around. So this may sound very asshole like but me and my partner don’t see the point of inviting them over if its all gonna be centred about the baby. Also i said to my friend that we don’t always need to have dinner at her home whenever we come over. We don’t expect dinner tbh.We also bring with us some snacks and sodas over.

Also i think its easier for them than having to bring tons of stuff over for the baby

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Samatha09 · 30/11/2024 12:18

@Santasbigredbobblehat fr this. Its not an evening or day i would want to socialize around watching the baby or watching baby not being hurt. Easier at their home where its childproff and baby can crawl without problem

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WifeOfMacbeth · 30/11/2024 12:18

Suggest you end friendship really. Staying friends with people over the years requires a bit of give and take and, in this instance, that's clearly not something you're willing to do. You are framing it as concern for the baby's safety - because that seems more acceptable - but this is not really what comes over as your underlying motivation.

DrFosterWentToGloucester23 · 30/11/2024 12:17

Stand your ground OP. Babies change things. I know, I’ve had 2. I was always much happier hosting at home when I had small ones and it was during their waking hours (I hated being on edge about a baby damaging someone else’s house) However, I would be disappointed as a friend if you didn’t invite me over in the evening sometimes if I was able to get a babysitter. It’s nice to have a change of scenery and not always having to be the ones tidying up.

FoxyPickles · 30/11/2024 12:16

I agree with @Brainauchocolat why on earth havent you spoken to them about it and just asked them? If they're such great friends surely its worth a conversation rather than asking strangers?

It doesnt have to be a big deal unless you make it one. Your post comes across as really quite sneery

Treegate · 30/11/2024 12:16

I’ve just had a baby so was the child free person with the non child friendly home for a long time. I didn’t love it but I cared about my friends and we easily got round it. Plus their baby would be asleep by 7 anyway!

You either accept it or lose the friendship.

mindutopia · 30/11/2024 12:16

When we had a baby, people always came to ours. We could do bath and bedtime and enjoy childfree time in the evenings. It’s a real pain to go to someone else’s house with a baby, more because of all the stuff, naps, etc.

I think realistically the dynamics have changed. You’re no longer two childfree couples who can easily do dinner and game nights. Why not plan things for the day? Meet for a walk? Meet for coffee or lunch out? You and female friend can meet up while dad stays at home with baby or the guys meet up just them.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 30/11/2024 12:15

Wtf is a "police mum"?

Balloonhearts · 30/11/2024 12:14

GinForBreakfast · 30/11/2024 11:48

They have a baby now. If you want to stay friends with them you'll have to adapt. Seems reasonable. It's not like they're asking you to join them at baby rhyme time or tumble tots.

How much devastation can an 11 month old really create in your precious home?

🤣 My youngest says Challenge accepted.

Brainauchocolat · 30/11/2024 12:14

Think it depends on your friend. Is she sad not to be invited over as she would like to get out, with the baby? Or does she in fact prefer it at her house? I think you should have a conversation with her and say "Hey, we want to see you! We don't want to put you out by expecting you to cook for us coming to yours. But also we don't want baby to eat stuff off our floor because we're not very child proof. What's the best option for you- come to ours and be on baby focus all the time, or we come to you, and we can bring a home cooked dinner? Also, are you upset we havent been asking you over? I get the vibe we aren't doing the right thing for you. Tell me what you need at this stage of your life, because we haven't known what to do for the best."

That would be easy to bottom out.

The problem is, your post is all full of resentment- you want "your go" at having social occasions,the way you want them, at your house, without having to make any baby accommodations. The way you snidely say "they were very keen on everyone coming to theirs the first few months" as though you're all dancing to their tune. Which is such rubbish, as anyone who has a newborn knows.

Look - whether you choose to not have kids or can't have them, the fact remains if a person has no significant caring responsibilities beyond themselves, the amount of leisure time, and fun time, and discretionary time they have is infinitely more than someone who has kids. That's just the truth of it. And it's why child free people whinging about accommodating children always sounds so petty and selfish. You have simply no conception of how much free time you have in real terms. So why is sorting your house "For 2-3 hours" such a big fat deal?

I also think guests come, and they should be welcomed if you want them to come. I think you should be pleased to tidy up your house for your friend. Move a few bits, put some towels and a bin on the bathroom floor for a changing space, maybe push the boat our and buy a packet of wet wipes. You've probably got a bedroom or spare room the precious ornaments could go in.

Can you not see it as showing how you love your friend and want her to be welcome? If someone was staying over, you wouldn't huff and puff and roll your eyes at putting flowers and clean towels in the guest bedroom or changing the sheets to the nice matching ones. You'd do it, in a happy glow of feeling like a lovely host. Why can't you change your house to accommodate one baby, for one day?

OrangeSlices998 · 30/11/2024 12:13

Surely at 11m the baby goes to bed of an evening and then the time is baby free?

Samatha09 · 30/11/2024 12:13

@Lincoln24 no need to be insulting, i guess i got lots of police mums in here. And btw got lots of friends that we have over and even 2 of them come over for an adult free time.

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plumlipstick · 30/11/2024 12:13

You dont have to invite them over but bear in mind that most people would get a bit fed up of constantly hosting someone else without any return invites.

I wouldnt mind if it was say, 70/30 but if you never, ever invited me over in return I'd get a bit pissed off with constantly having to host. Friendship is about reciprocity so carry on, but dont be surprised if you get less and less invites over time.

Santasbigredbobblehat · 30/11/2024 12:13

I don’t think you’re unreasonable and I have three children. I liked people coming over to me as I knew my house was set up for it, also, why would you want to have to watch a child when you’re socialising, that’s not fun. Why is your mate so keen to come to you do you think? Is it so they can leave when they want?

GinForBreakfast · 30/11/2024 12:12

@Nolegusta only in response to hyperbole. I have hosted many babies, and had my own. I've never had a single incident that has damaged or broken a household item.

xmascrackerr · 30/11/2024 12:12

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable, your house isn’t child proofed, it makes sense for you to go to them, surely the baby will need to be put to bed if it’s on an evening too? Obviously if they can get a babysitter you’d be happy to host but otherwise either you go to them or meet on neutral ground, a restaurant or whatever.

I completely get your anxiety of having a child toddling around your house, pulling up on vases and potentially damaging your things to hurting herself!

Lincoln24 · 30/11/2024 12:11

I mean, in the league of things one might ask of a friend, this ranks pretty low. I suppose it boils down to, what lengths are you prepared to go to for your friends? You won't even inconvenience yourself this much? They're not babies forever, it might only be a handful of visits.

Your choice but you sound selfish and that's not likely to leave you with many friends in the long term.

Samatha09 · 30/11/2024 12:10

@Lemonade2011 most people on here think its a really big deal tho

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pelargoniums · 30/11/2024 12:10

How many button batteries do you have scattered across the floor on a regular basis

ThinWomansBrain · 30/11/2024 12:10

if they're visiting for an evening, wouldn't they bring a travel cot & the baby be in it much of the time?
if it is always you visiting them, are they bearing all the cost, or are you contributing equally?

Thepeopleversuswork · 30/11/2024 12:09

It makes sense more often than not to go to theirs of course but I think it’s precious and unreasonable to insist that they never bring their baby.

I would be fucked off if I had a small baby and someone adopted this position as a blanket policy.

If you want your friendship to survive you will have to unclench a bit. The baby won’t be small for long and if you suck it up for a bit it will pay dividends for your friendship long term.

Samatha09 · 30/11/2024 12:09

@LittleBearPad thats litteraly a boring as way to spend time with friends over. A baby would be crawling everywhere and putting stuff in her mouth. Easier at their own home

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Moonlitwalk · 30/11/2024 12:06

Calian · 30/11/2024 11:53

It's completely up to you. You can choose things over people - this is a choice people make, and think is right and good for them. So you will get many people on this thread saying this is fine. And it is fine. So long as you recognise that over time, in small ways, the more often you choose things over people, the fewer people you will have around. If that's what you want, go one way. If you don't want that, go the other.

Yeah this. It's fine to not invite them over but be prepared that your friendship with them will change. Thats just life- adapting to changes and phases of life.

LittleBearPad · 30/11/2024 12:05

Baby proofing means watching the baby and moving anything she looks like she’s going to grab and break.

There are four of you - it’s really not very hard to keep an eye on a one year old.

ImNoSuperman · 30/11/2024 12:04

Sounds perfectly reasonable to have movie night / games night at their house where they have everything their baby needs. Adult games can happen after baby goes to bed, like plenty of other groups of friends manage to do.
Child free households (and now those with older kids) were the ones who travelled to visit friends with little ones in ours. Child free (baby free) households shouldn't need to change anything for other people's children in their home, it's up to their parents to parent them and make sure they don't break or swallow things or get into danger.

Samatha09 · 30/11/2024 12:04

@Winter2020 forgot we have also brought take away pizza with us to them

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