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To make my son pay

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SirHisss · 30/11/2024 06:43

For his own coat?

He has lost his at school. The replacement for the one he lost at the beginning of this year.

I can't let him go through the whole winter without a decent coat, so it's not something I can just refuse to replace and let him put up with not having one.

He has been round the whole school/lost property twice and it hasn't turned up so I believe someone has taken it, but it wouldn't have been taken if he hadn't left it at his arse in the first place.

He is always losing things, I feel like banging my head off the wall. I don't know how to get through to him. Jacket, sports equipment, trainers, we are on our third replacement bus pass since term started in September.

He was made to replace the lost sports equipment with his pocket money, and when he loses his bus pass he has to pay his own bus fare whilst we wait on a replacement but it doesn't make a difference.

He is a teenager, tall and broad shouldered so has outgrown kid's sizes - a decent jacket does not come cheap!

He is going to buy an air tag for the next one, which I think is a good idea and he can pay for that himself. It's just so frustrating, I work hard and he has nice, good quality things - this wasn't a flimsy cagoule from Primark and it'll be a significant chunk of my budget to replace it. But clothing him is my responsibility and it feels mean to get him to pay for something essential.

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ThinWomansBrain · 01/12/2024 09:25

Vinted - and it's his christmas present or part of it.

kierenthecommunity · 01/12/2024 09:20

I also recommend Mountain Warehouse. My son has got one of those 3 in 1 coats from there, I got it for his Y6 residential but sized up so he could take it to high school and he’s still wearing it in Y8. The tags that attach the fleece to the waterproof layer have come off but other than that it still looks pristine.

My son is 12 and a coat loser (we are having him assessed for ADHD albeit not just for that) He is lucky enough to have three coats as we’ve been gifted some and all three have been lost at different times, and sometimes at the same time. 😫 I have hauled the Mountain Warehouse one out of lost properly that many times it’s now known as the boomerang coat 😂

The receptionist recommended all coats should be coloured rather than black (the MW one is green) as they are easier to find (and probably nicked less)

He lost a nice blue Nike one before last half term so I assumed it was gone for good but amazingly it’s turned up again. So all may not be lost! I bet it’s in that school somewhere…

I have threatened him with charity shop/Vinted and paying for it from his pocket money many times and that 80% of the time makes it reappear. Ditto his planner. 🙄

Ewock · 01/12/2024 09:20

Go Outdoors do a good range of coats, we usually buy my dc coats from there as they are good quality, but usually a decent price. You can sign up for a card if you don't already have one. And I think they take Blue Light card

CautiousLurker1 · 01/12/2024 09:16

HappyTwo · 30/11/2024 07:14

Losing things is a very common inattentive adhd trait

Was coming on to say this - is there more to his continual losing/forgetting things?

and whether there is or not, I’d definitely just buy second hand/vinted/charity shop replacements going forward. It will take the stress out of it and you may find that forgotten items do actually end up in lost property as noone wants (or can resell on vinted) unbranded ones.

TidyTaupeSnail · 01/12/2024 09:16

MuchLess · 01/12/2024 09:08

It’s great being an adult. Because you can generally make mistakes, have accidents and lose stuff, and nobody can tell you off. Being a kid, you lose something and get an earful.

It’s ok to be frustrated OP. But I think it’s a bit mean to make him pay, if you can find the funds. He didn’t do it on purpose and has tried to find it. These things happen.

He's a teenager, we learn things as we mature into adulthood, including looking after our things and how much things cost.

It's part of growing up. Negative consequences are often good ways of learning to take more care next time.

OP hasn't said he should pay for the whole thing, just that he should contribute.

MuchLess · 01/12/2024 09:08

It’s great being an adult. Because you can generally make mistakes, have accidents and lose stuff, and nobody can tell you off. Being a kid, you lose something and get an earful.

It’s ok to be frustrated OP. But I think it’s a bit mean to make him pay, if you can find the funds. He didn’t do it on purpose and has tried to find it. These things happen.

Lovelysummerdays · 01/12/2024 09:07

Replace from vinted. I find the casual shrug of oh well it’s fine I just won’t have a coat/ gloves/ hat this year like that’s the solution infuriating.

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Opuntia · 01/12/2024 08:59

M and S do some cheap winter coats that are really good. I got myself one!

I would get him to pay for the air tag while you buy the coat. It's frustrating isn't it. Mine were always losing everything but I also think they were absent minded and a bit overwhelmed by school.

If it's any consolation, they are both now adults and look after their stuff v well.

SoupDragon · 01/12/2024 08:57

Chickenpieformytea · 01/12/2024 08:25

"may be inattentive or even ADHD or whatever, but everyone improves through effort"

Lovely attitude here
Nice and ableist

And ignorant.

SirHisss · 01/12/2024 08:46

Goldenbear · 01/12/2024 08:23

But he is still a dependent presumably so that makes no odds to plight he finds himself in. If he is walking and out and about, you wouldn't want your teenager to be in a non waterproof, warm coat. My two are teenagers and I still want them to be comfortable and warm and healthy, just like I did when they were four. My Mum feels the same about me and I'm in my forties.

If I was about to let him walk about with no coat, I wouldn't be on here asking for advice on how to handle the situation.
I've said several times that he needs a warm and waterproof coat and that I have no intention of not getting him one.
My question was whether or not he should have to pay/contribute towards it given the number of times he loses things.

And for those who have their knickers in a bunch about me not providing his exact date of birth, he is 15.

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Chickenpieformytea · 01/12/2024 08:25

hepsitemiz · 30/11/2024 08:15

“but it wouldn't have been taken if he hadn't left it at his arse in the first place.”

Wondering whether “arse” is a typo here, or if it’s a new expression.

Anyway, go second hand and non-brand for any replacements. Yes he may be inattentive or even ADHD or whatever, but everyone improves through effort and he’ll put in the effort if replacements are less desirable than the originals.

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"may be inattentive or even ADHD or whatever, but everyone improves through effort"

Lovely attitude here
Nice and ableist

Goldenbear · 01/12/2024 08:23

onceisenoughinlife · 30/11/2024 20:04

Because he is being careless and entitled and disrespectful when it comes to his belongings that someone else - the OP - pays for

He is a teenager not a child in reception

But he is still a dependent presumably so that makes no odds to plight he finds himself in. If he is walking and out and about, you wouldn't want your teenager to be in a non waterproof, warm coat. My two are teenagers and I still want them to be comfortable and warm and healthy, just like I did when they were four. My Mum feels the same about me and I'm in my forties.

Goldenbear · 01/12/2024 08:16

I would pay for him, I have an older teen and would pay for him. Like others have said my two prefer Vinted or D pop as they like the quality of coats that are from the 90s/00s.

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UninventiveName · 30/11/2024 23:23

I think you pay but he contributes is a good compromise.
i have a copy non apple air tag from Amazon & it works fine.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 30/11/2024 21:22

I lose things all the time, as an adult I pay for them myself, it doesnt mean I lose things less. I probably have ADD, the inattentive type of ADHD. The air tag sounds like a good idea. Does he have a mobile phone? He could put a reminder on it to buzz just after school finishes for the day to grab his coat. Alarms and reminders and lists are what helps me the most, just to make sure I don't turn them off without doing the thing I need to do.

Eta: to answer your question personally I'd say strategies to help him remember might be more useful than making him pay for it.

coffeesaveslives · 30/11/2024 20:20

MintShaker · 30/11/2024 19:49

Why on earth would you even consider asking him to pay?!! He's your child, you clothe him, it's 100% your responsibility. Jeesh!!

Because being a parent doesn't mean buying unlimited replacements for stuff that your children haven't looked after!

He's a teenager - old enough to understand the value of money and to look after his stuff properly (and pay towards replacements when he's been lazy or careless).

onceisenoughinlife · 30/11/2024 20:04

MintShaker · 30/11/2024 19:49

Why on earth would you even consider asking him to pay?!! He's your child, you clothe him, it's 100% your responsibility. Jeesh!!

Because he is being careless and entitled and disrespectful when it comes to his belongings that someone else - the OP - pays for

He is a teenager not a child in reception

MintShaker · 30/11/2024 19:49

Why on earth would you even consider asking him to pay?!! He's your child, you clothe him, it's 100% your responsibility. Jeesh!!

Nothanks17 · 30/11/2024 19:46

My first thought is perhaps he is being bullied from how often it occurs and he is too embarrassed to say the truth

Elsvieta · 30/11/2024 19:17

What kind of teenager? 13? 18? Or somewhere in between?

If he's 15+, I'd say give him a set amount per week that's to cover everything - clothes, shoes, sports equipment, bus passes - and no more, whatever happens. If he loses something, he has to replace it out of what he has. If he loses two things in a week, he'll need to prioritize what matters to him more. He'll soon learn to budget and know the value of things, and being cold for a week or two will probably improve his memory. Just tell him you'll give him a lift to the charity shop if he wants one.

SirHisss · 30/11/2024 12:20

@LynetteScavo

I can see why it might seem mean but he does receive a generous amount of pocket money from grandparents, and I wouldn't take it all off him!

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