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To think DH did nothing wrong here?

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Challas · 29/11/2024 21:21

On my way to do the school run in the dark I nearly slammed into a little black car that was broken down just around a blind on our very rural 60 mile an hour road. I noticed a woman alone sitting in the car. I called DH and asked him to go at least put cones around the car but also to offer to the woman for him to stay with her (in his car) or come stand on our drive so she didn't get killed sitting in the car. He went up to her and she politely declined (all fine but he was legitimately afraid for her). He did then drive back around the bend and sat there with his hazards on to slow any cars coming down. Eventually the recovery van came for her and all was well until a few hours later we had the police at the door saying this woman reported DH for having made her feel threatened!? He's now said in the future he just won't even offer help if he's in the same position again. The police were fairly aggressive with wanting to know exactly what he said and did so clearly she was very uncomfortable.

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BunionRecovery · 30/11/2024 10:17

MemorableTrenchcoat · 30/11/2024 10:03

If the woman had put out a warning triangle, motorists would have had to go around that too. Negotiating two obstacles which you are aware of is far preferable to colliding with one that you didn’t see until it was too late. I can’t believe I’m actually having to explain this.

The very purpose of a warning triangle is to.... Warn people. A car with hazards on is an obstacle. I can't believe I'm actually having to explain this.

BeMintBee · 30/11/2024 10:16

Lizzie67384 · 29/11/2024 22:02

Well that is a completely bizarre thing to do!!!

Well quite, but I honestly think some people just don’t think things through when they’re in a bit of a panic.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 30/11/2024 10:12

category12 · 30/11/2024 10:07

Don't be silly, a warning triangle means "problem ahead".

A car with its hazards on looks like it is the problem.

A car with its hazards on will attract approaching motorists’ attention, so they’ll be concentrating on the situation as they approach. Plus, they’ll likely reduce their speed, which further reduces the risk to the broken-down vehicle. Sure, a warning triangle might be preferable, but DH’s action was still very useful. It may also be that he was going to flag down or otherwise warn drivers as they approached.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 30/11/2024 10:11

Sounds more like a frightened woman was further frightened by a bloke turning up when she was vulnerable and saying

'I can stay with you' - um, no. 'In my car' - not getting in your car with you.

'You can come back to my house, I'm just around the corner' - no.

'You can stand in my driveway' - still not going with you to your house.

'My wife asked me to help you' - how do I know that? You could have seen me here and decided to take the opportunity.

'This is my name and address' - does that make getting in your car as a strange man inviting me back to your house any safer when it could easily be a false name and address?

Just because he meant 'I'm going to rescue you and although you haven't a scooby whether I'm doing this for altruistic reasons or so you feature in a documentary in nine years about how you disappeared from a broken down vehicle and was never seen again but a piece of paper with a false name and address was found at the scene, I'm definitely doing this because I'm a latter day Knightrider' doesn't mean that she was going to instinctively know that going against everything women learn about how dangerous men can be would be fine on this occasion.

All the advice for women in the event of a breakdown that isn't on a motorway is to stay in the car, to not accept help from strangers (specifically men) and to report if somebody (specifically men) make you feel uncomfortable. And that a genuinely benign person - man - won't be offended.

category12 · 30/11/2024 10:07

MemorableTrenchcoat · 30/11/2024 10:03

If the woman had put out a warning triangle, motorists would have had to go around that too. Negotiating two obstacles which you are aware of is far preferable to colliding with one that you didn’t see until it was too late. I can’t believe I’m actually having to explain this.

Don't be silly, a warning triangle means "problem ahead".

A car with its hazards on looks like it is the problem.

Wordsmithery · 30/11/2024 10:05

I think all men should be aware how their actions may be interpreted by women. He knows he was trying to help, but she didn't know that. If she lets him help and all is well, next time - with not such a nice bloke - her guard may be down.
FWIW, I would be creeped out if some random guy was sitting in a car behind me in the dark.
The obvious thing was to get the husband to do the school run, as they were so close to OP's home, or call the police.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 30/11/2024 10:03

BunionRecovery · 30/11/2024 10:00

By putting another obstacle for people to have to go round, just before a bend. People will think they have gone round the obstacle, not expecting another one just up ahead. Or be on the wrong side of the road, with other cars heading towards them.

If he had put a warning triangle, people look ahead for an obstacle.

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If the woman had put out a warning triangle, motorists would have had to go around that too. Negotiating two obstacles which you are aware of is far preferable to colliding with one that you didn’t see until it was too late. I can’t believe I’m actually having to explain this.

BunionRecovery · 30/11/2024 10:00

MemorableTrenchcoat · 30/11/2024 09:50

How did the DH “add to the hazards” of the situation? He did what is a legal requirement in many countries, which is to provide advance warning of the concealed, broken-down vehicle to other vehicles approaching the scene.

By putting another obstacle for people to have to go round, just before a bend. People will think they have gone round the obstacle, not expecting another one just up ahead. Or be on the wrong side of the road, with other cars heading towards them.

If he had put a warning triangle, people look ahead for an obstacle.

theywill · 30/11/2024 09:53

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rainbowunicorn · 30/11/2024 09:53

ClairDeLaLune · 30/11/2024 09:06

Sorry but what your DH did was pretty creepy. She told him she didn’t need help but he sat round the corner like a weird stalker. Yet another man thinking he knows what’s best for the pathetic little woman. I would’ve been really scared of him if I’d been her, like the situation isn’t bad enough already without some weirdo hanging around. Your DH needs to learn to respect women’s wishes and be mindful of boundaries.

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The woman in question was a bit pathetic though. She was sitting in the dark causing a hazard like a gormless idiot. So, yes the man in question did know what was best for this woman because he was trying to avoid other road users killing themselves and her due to her completely incompetent behaviour.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 30/11/2024 09:50

BunionRecovery · 30/11/2024 07:19

It is perfectly possible for her to have been both stupid and for her to be scared of being approached in the dark by a random bloke. She had no way of knowing if he was a good guy or an axe wielding maniac.

I have broken down on a bend before. The first thing I did, before phoning for recovery, was to call the police. They were with me in minutes to prevent any further issues. The sensible thing for the husband to do when told he wasn't needed would have been to suggest calling the police, or offered to do it for her, not lurk down the road, further adding to the hazards of the situation and inadvertently scaring a lone woman.

How did the DH “add to the hazards” of the situation? He did what is a legal requirement in many countries, which is to provide advance warning of the concealed, broken-down vehicle to other vehicles approaching the scene.

rainbowunicorn · 30/11/2024 09:41

Newdaynewstarts · 30/11/2024 04:38

Yabu. Why didn’t you sit with her. I wouldn’t have appreciated that either. I don’t need a random man coming to my aid.

Presumably you are capable of following the guidance on what to do if you break down so that you reduce the danger to yourself and other road users. This woman was not capable of that so someone needed to do the thinking for her.

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 30/11/2024 09:39

A dangerous obstruction on the road is a police matter. They should have been called to attend and control traffic as required until the vehicle was recovered.

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MasterBeth · 30/11/2024 09:36

Your husband tried to do a good deed. Good for him.

The woman, in an already potentially stressful situation, wasn't sure whether your husband was doing a good deed or was potentially predatory. She was right to call the police

The police came and checked it out. They weren't to know your husband wasn't predatory until they had.

How about no-one was unreasonable and no-one was hurt and it all ended well?

rainbowunicorn · 30/11/2024 09:34

Edingril · 30/11/2024 02:21

But you decided for her what she needed, you took the control away from her an grown adult in order to think for herself

And you decided she needed a man as was incapable to think for herself, you did this because you wanted to feel better about helping someone because you decided they needed it

Well apparently the grown adult couldn't manage to think for herself. She sat in a broken down car, in the dark, on a blind bend causing a hazard for every other road user. So yeah, someone needed to take control because she was being an idiot.

Nothatgingerpirate · 30/11/2024 09:28

2110l · 29/11/2024 21:32

It's kinda cold, no?

Yes.
Also, it needs to be, given the state of this world we didn't choose to live in.

Walkaround · 30/11/2024 09:17

category12 · 30/11/2024 09:16

How is she supposed to know what he's saying and doing is genuine? She's not a mind reader.

How is he supposed to be capable of harming her when he is sitting on the other side of the blind bend, in his car, with his hazard lights on?

Boomer55 · 30/11/2024 09:16

This woman sounds incredibly stupid, but kudos to your husband for trying to help her. 👍

Catapultaway · 30/11/2024 09:16

ClairDeLaLune · 30/11/2024 09:06

Sorry but what your DH did was pretty creepy. She told him she didn’t need help but he sat round the corner like a weird stalker. Yet another man thinking he knows what’s best for the pathetic little woman. I would’ve been really scared of him if I’d been her, like the situation isn’t bad enough already without some weirdo hanging around. Your DH needs to learn to respect women’s wishes and be mindful of boundaries.

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Her DH had just been told a driver had put his DW and DC at risk and nearly had a dangerous collision with and was continuing to be a danger to herself and more importantly to others.
So yes, pathetic little woman sums her up quite well. Her wish to be a danger to others isn't o arriving because she's a poor little woman.

category12 · 30/11/2024 09:16

Walkaround · 30/11/2024 09:13

Except she actually was being silly to refuse the help provided, and he and his wife, who know the road and how people drive along it, did know best…

How is she supposed to know what he's saying and doing is genuine? She's not a mind reader.

YellowAsteroid · 30/11/2024 09:15

Apolloneuro · 30/11/2024 09:08

I don’t think men truly understand the fear.

I was once in a remote ish place walking a dog. There had just been an incident with another dog being aggressive and I was on edge.

Out of nowhere a man appeared. I jumped out of my skin and for a few seconds was really scared. He started talking to me about how his dog had been attacked once, all normal conversation.

Never in a million years would that bloke have understood his effect on me.

Not particularly relevant, but we do have conversations in my family, amongst the men and women about it, eg what would my son do if he was walking behind a woman on a dark street etc. My blokes know it as I and my daughters have explained, but they don’t FEEL it.

Exactly.

The good men need to really start to understand this.

Walkaround · 30/11/2024 09:13

ClairDeLaLune · 30/11/2024 09:06

Sorry but what your DH did was pretty creepy. She told him she didn’t need help but he sat round the corner like a weird stalker. Yet another man thinking he knows what’s best for the pathetic little woman. I would’ve been really scared of him if I’d been her, like the situation isn’t bad enough already without some weirdo hanging around. Your DH needs to learn to respect women’s wishes and be mindful of boundaries.

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Except she actually was being silly to refuse the help provided, and he and his wife, who know the road and how people drive along it, did know best…

Apolloneuro · 30/11/2024 09:12

ClairDeLaLune · 30/11/2024 09:06

Sorry but what your DH did was pretty creepy. She told him she didn’t need help but he sat round the corner like a weird stalker. Yet another man thinking he knows what’s best for the pathetic little woman. I would’ve been really scared of him if I’d been her, like the situation isn’t bad enough already without some weirdo hanging around. Your DH needs to learn to respect women’s wishes and be mindful of boundaries.

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To be honest, I’m more scared of your lack of critical thinking skills and hyperbole, but you do you.

Apolloneuro · 30/11/2024 09:09

ClairDeLaLune · 30/11/2024 09:06

Sorry but what your DH did was pretty creepy. She told him she didn’t need help but he sat round the corner like a weird stalker. Yet another man thinking he knows what’s best for the pathetic little woman. I would’ve been really scared of him if I’d been her, like the situation isn’t bad enough already without some weirdo hanging around. Your DH needs to learn to respect women’s wishes and be mindful of boundaries.

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Absolute bullshit. What’s creepy about preventing accidents?

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