Marionette Lines Getting me down

No, face yoga does not make any difference, in my experience.

I was always told that I looked young for my age. I've done facial exercises for many years, but now look my age, if not older. I do think about having botox, but I wouldn't know who to got to.

They've been a thing forever! Only lines that age people imo.

Filler will sort them out, but I know you said you don't like needles. I'm not sure that anything else would really work.

I'm 47 and I've never even heard of 'marionette lines' - sounds like another thing given a name just to shame women for ageing.

Am ancient. No sign of them. No relatives had them, either, even at 90.

The only thing that works is injectables. I'm 53, had the same issue and have botox/filler/senecos.

It's over in 10 mins and is very impactful.

Anything else is a waste of money.

You can blur them temporarily with make up like beauty blur from Trinny.

We all age differently. You might get them in the future.

It will depend on things like the skeletal structure of your face (mainly your maxilla and mandible), whether you experience bone loss there as you age, the distribution of fat and muscle (genetic) and how elastic your skin is (largely genetic).

I have a combination of deep set eyes and high cheekbones which has given me hollows under my eyes since I was about 25. No cream, pill or facial yoga will change the underlying bone structure or fat distribution that predisposes people to things like this.

What causes them? I don't have them, so they are not an inevitable part of ageing. Is it a particular facial type?

I do t generally care about lines etc but my marionette lines have really bothered me. I have introduced a nightly hyalauronic acid routine with massage and they have improved greatly! Remember to wear your skin before applying to hyalauronic acid serum. 😊😊

Nothing will work apart from filler or a face lift. I've been doing face yoga for years, and my nasolabial folds haven't improved.

I wouldn't do fillers, especially now they stay far longer than predicted and migrate.

I've learned to live with them.

@JMSA I really don’t-literally hardly feel a thing! Maybe they’ve been heavy handed whilst administering it for you or perhaps my lady is really good.

I wish I could stop making this the main focus, seriously it is making me depressed. My husband doesn’t understand he just says you look good and that I have so many other things in life to focus on and be grateful for and I know he’s right ( not about the looking good part) but I can’t help it. OP have you considered seeking support with the issue of being unable to stop thinking about it? CBT to interrupt the thought process or other therapy to find out why this bothers you so much, there are ways to tackle the impact this is having on your life.

I love Botox and agree with your post, but you cannot claim that you barely feel the needle. You do!

I would also say, gently, that you no-one can hold back the ageing process sadly but cosmetic surgery can keep it at bay for longer. At some point we all need to make peace with it. I wonder if your mood change is menopausal also. A lot of women feel better on HRT.

This is not helpful.

I think it is, it's another point of view.

If you are looking for a better retinol, I’d move to tretinoin. Prescription service like Dermatica or Skin&Me are great - it takes a good couple of months to kick in properly but is awesome and really makes a difference. (PM me if you’d like a Dermatica discount code).
Look at Caroline Hirons and Sali Hughes for routines - you don’t need complex routines but need the right ingredients / actives.

I've heard Frownies are good and apparently they work.

And I'm so glad I clicked on this thread because you NEEED to try face yoga but specifically: 'Anastasia beauty fascia' (she's on Instagram). I've been doing her course since last month and it seriously works.

You do need to spend time doing it daily, but to me it's worth it as I want to avoid Botox and the like. I just can't find the time with two young kids but I'm persevering I've been feeling like rubbish since the start of my pregnancy so it's the only thing to make me feel pretty (especially since I cannot be bothered to wear makeup nowadays) that too naturally! My eyes have opened up and jawline more defined. To my understanding, it's only been a month so I need to do it longer to see further results.

Definitely let me know if you check her page out and what you think!!

Agree with this. Nuface is great, as are HydraFacials. Also, an LED mask will help.

but filler does a really good job and really only need a little once every two years or so if you get over your fear

I agree.
Unfortunately this is down to genetics. Creams can’t restructure the full depth of the skin and the tissue underneath, they can only hydrate or exfoliate the top layer.
I have marionette lines too and don’t much like them, but it’s not something we can reverse.

But this sort of thing is a natural part of the ageing process and coming to terms with ageing is going to be better than throwing money away.

This sounds like body dysmorphia. You’d be better off spending money on addressing why you’re fixating on this than lining the pockets of cosmetics companies who conduct zero clinical trials to back up their claims.

This is not helpful.

Don’t waste your money on pills and creams, they won’t work. At best they’ll very slightly improve the texture of the skin, but nothing can replace the volume besides fillers, and fillers come with a whole host of issues.

This sounds like body dysmorphia. You’d be better off spending money on addressing why you’re fixating on this than lining the pockets of cosmetics companies who conduct zero clinical trials to back up their claims.

I’d join the Caroline Hirons Skincare Freaks Facebook page and search marionette lines, there are hundreds of posts on there about it with various recommendations.