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School forgot to give medication

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Popsicle82646 · 29/11/2024 15:47

Daughter comes home from school and says that they forgot to give her her dose of antibiotics today at school.

When dad collected the teacher said oh I'm sorry, and turned to my daughter and said 'Did you remind any of the staff today to give it to you?'

Now I'm a pretty chill mum, and whilst not the end of the world as she's had the second dose when she got home, It's kind of not the point.

AIBU for being annoyed they turned the blame to my child asking if she reminded them (7 yo)?!

I'm inclined to just leave it but part of me wonders if that had been a diabetes medication for example that had been forgotten it might have been different outcome.

WWYD?

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x2boys · 30/11/2024 09:24

BelgianBiscuit · 29/11/2024 23:08

The school will not find themselves responsible for missed medication. Complaining will go nowhere.

My son is type 1 diabetic and a lunch dose was missed. No insulin showing in his pump, and a graph of high blood glucose. Panel of governors found this wasn't an issue. The head even claimed insulin isn't needed for pizza.

Arseholes then pleaded at disability discrimination hearing it isn't their role to supervise any insulin doses for a 7 yr old.

Department of education then said school provided 'compelling evidence' that he had taken insulin. But couldn't provide a copy of it.

( Apologies for the rant. )

That sounds very worrying bit i thought the pump was supposed to administer insulin automatically ,did the CGM not alarm to to alert the staff?

Pippa12 · 29/11/2024 23:20

My son’s primary school wont administer ABXs- we have to arrange for somebody to go in and give it.

Inhalers etc are in school and can be administered.

My son is 8 and would definitely be able to remember to ask the staff to give his ABXs.

Insulin would not be forgotten as a staff member would be trained to administer it every day, the child would have an insulin passport and a care plan in school. It’s a critical medication.

You could try ringing the office at lunchtime to ensure the dose has been given for peace of mind? I couldn’t get worked up at the dose being missed or my daughter being asked if they’d reminded the teacher.

BelgianBiscuit · 29/11/2024 23:08

The school will not find themselves responsible for missed medication. Complaining will go nowhere.

My son is type 1 diabetic and a lunch dose was missed. No insulin showing in his pump, and a graph of high blood glucose. Panel of governors found this wasn't an issue. The head even claimed insulin isn't needed for pizza.

Arseholes then pleaded at disability discrimination hearing it isn't their role to supervise any insulin doses for a 7 yr old.

Department of education then said school provided 'compelling evidence' that he had taken insulin. But couldn't provide a copy of it.

( Apologies for the rant. )

Wolframandhart · 29/11/2024 20:40

Popsicle82646 · 29/11/2024 16:28

So if they had the first dose before school and then say second when she gets home at 4pm ish when am I supposed to safely fit in 2 more doses before bed time??

Wake her up.

PicaK · 29/11/2024 20:17

Shouldn't have happened but think carefully before you complain. School do not have to give medication. They could refuse and insist you attend to administer it. They are doing you a favour.

smalltreethisyear · 29/11/2024 20:07

My child’s schools has something on the administering medication form we sign to say they will not guarantee the medication will be given but will try their best. Might your child’s school have the same?

for a long standing medication there will be a care plan in place so there really isn’t any comparison between diabetics and a one off course of antibiotics.

TitaniasAss · 29/11/2024 19:58

Popsicle82646 · 29/11/2024 15:47

Daughter comes home from school and says that they forgot to give her her dose of antibiotics today at school.

When dad collected the teacher said oh I'm sorry, and turned to my daughter and said 'Did you remind any of the staff today to give it to you?'

Now I'm a pretty chill mum, and whilst not the end of the world as she's had the second dose when she got home, It's kind of not the point.

AIBU for being annoyed they turned the blame to my child asking if she reminded them (7 yo)?!

I'm inclined to just leave it but part of me wonders if that had been a diabetes medication for example that had been forgotten it might have been different outcome.

WWYD?

You're really comparing the giving of an antibiotic to giving a life saving medication like insulin? Blimey.

Threelittleduck · 29/11/2024 19:51

They shouldn't have forgotten and they shouldn't have placed any blame on your DD. She is 7 not 17.
I know it happens. My DD quite often had antibiotics to be given 4 times a day and they often forgot but remembered in the early afternoon. They had a TA who dealt with it though.
Are TAs really that rare? Every school we looked at last year had at least 1 TA per year group if not one for each class.
But in my DDs case they didn't blame her for not remembering. Adults have to take the majority of the blame here (I would say all the blame).
Perhaps they need to look at a better system. It can't be that unusual to have children on antibiotics in school. A better system, not one that relies on young children remembering.

Seashor · 29/11/2024 19:39

My colleagues and I refuse to give any medication at school entirely for this reason. No way am I taking responsibility for it. It was VERY unreasonable of you to expect school to administer it, you could easily have worked the times so it didn’t interfere with school.
How dare you compare it with school staff forgetting insulin. There will be alarms set by the teacher, child and admin staff for this and training will have had to be undertaken.

GettingThemFromHereToThere · 29/11/2024 19:10

It's a bit defensive so I can see why the comment to your daughter would get your back up, but my 6yo would absolutely remind the teacher about their medication so equally I can see why the teacher would hope your daughter would remind her.

I've worked in schools, it's so easy to forget.

I'd let this go.

mrpinkwhistlescat · 29/11/2024 19:08

Four times a day course won’t fit in if only given outside school hours.

EmotionalSupportPotato · 29/11/2024 18:48

Wolframandhart · 29/11/2024 15:56

Im not missing the point. This is your responsibility. Antibiotics should be given at home. One dose right before school means there is no need for a dose at school.

This. Why have you left it to teachers who have to rely on your daughter reminding them? Just sort it out yourself

itsgettingweird · 29/11/2024 18:41

The thing with comparing it to diabetes medicine (insulin) is that child will have a care plan.

They will have a designated person to administer daily and very likely they will remember to go to X.

Also with thing like diabetes their are schedule reminders - Eg lunch in a bit.

Random antibiotics won't be on the daily routine for either teacher or child.

Your child forgot she needed them and only has to think for herself.

Not saying it's ideal. But as someone who administers medication in a school I've not forgotten daily meds - have previously forgotten a dose of antibiotics. We don't usually have to administer them in school though as we only do the ones that are 4 times a day and usually they are 3 times.

I have previously put a post it on my desk and the child's to remind us which is foolproof until someone moves them!

PeloMom · 29/11/2024 17:24

All the nurseries / school my kid has been to had a clause in the contract that the school will not be administering medication. If the child strictly needs the medication the parents need to organise the kid to get it (ie keep the kid home, arrange for someone to go to the school at a non disruptive time etc). It wouldn’t occur to me to make the teacher responsible to be honest.
my doctor explained to me that as long as the kid gets the dose per 24 hrs, it’s all good and always spilt the dose in 2 * 12 hour doses vs 3 every 8 hrs or 4 every 6 hrs (we make a point to request it this way as it’s less disruptive)

MintShaker · 29/11/2024 17:19

No big deal don't sweat the small stuff and forget about it. No harm done

x2boys · 29/11/2024 17:17

Wolframandhart · 29/11/2024 16:16

A child on antibiotics is not the same as a child with a medical condition that requires life saving regular medication. Children with diabetes, children with asthma etc have medical plans. Staff have training. Special locations are stated in ehcps on where the medication is kept. Meetings take place with parents. There will be a link member of staff for the child with diabetes and times allocated for bloods etc.

your child could and should be having antibiotics at home. Do that. Do not take time away from that imaginary child with diabetes that you are focused on.

Indeed, my son was diagnosed with Diabetes in year 11 he was perfectly capable of dealing. with himself but i still had to have a meeting with the head of pastoral care to discuss everything
He's in college now and we had to have a meeting before he started so theu could make reasonable adjustments if necessary vastly different to antibiotics

x2boys · 29/11/2024 17:08

Popsicle82646 · 29/11/2024 15:47

Daughter comes home from school and says that they forgot to give her her dose of antibiotics today at school.

When dad collected the teacher said oh I'm sorry, and turned to my daughter and said 'Did you remind any of the staff today to give it to you?'

Now I'm a pretty chill mum, and whilst not the end of the world as she's had the second dose when she got home, It's kind of not the point.

AIBU for being annoyed they turned the blame to my child asking if she reminded them (7 yo)?!

I'm inclined to just leave it but part of me wonders if that had been a diabetes medication for example that had been forgotten it might have been different outcome.

WWYD?

But it wasent a diabetes medication it was a,dose of antibiotics, if your child was diabetic they would be in a routine and would know they have to take insulin with meals, and they would likely have a pump and a CGM ,so not really comparable.

Rubyupbeat · 29/11/2024 16:58

When mine were young, your child wasn't allowed in school on antibiotics, I can understand why, reading this.

Longma · 29/11/2024 16:49

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Superscientist · 29/11/2024 16:49

The difference with regular medication is that its part of routine so it's harder to miss. My 4 year old has medication twice a day and knows when she has due it and reminds us if she has missed it. She's done this since 3!

For regular medication I think they would have a point and that the 7 year old should have reminded them but for short term medication I think it's less reasonable unless they were prewarned to ask about their antibiotics. Our school only gives 4 times a day medication and not 3 times a day so I don't think you are unreasonable to expect them to give them the antibiotics. Ideally my daughter would have one of her medications 3 times a day but this would involve her having it at school (it has to be given 30 minutes before meals rather than at set time points) and we don't want the added stress of managing and persuading them to give a 3 times a day medication and via syringe as they only permit spoons but her doses is 3.5ml and spoons are 2.5ml or 5ml.

How long do they have left on the antibiotics? Unless you have to continue on them next week I think I would let this lie. If they will need them next week, I would engage your daughter in the routine so she can ask for them at school

TheCompactPussycat · 29/11/2024 16:49

Can you get a pass if you are a volunteer leader with a youth group?

I've taken my group to PGL with no fewer than 4 kids needing medication at various points of the day, some of which needed to be kept refrigerated. As anyone who has taken a group will know, PGL is hectic and your day and timings are dictated by the PGL staff and the activities. They got their medication when it was possible. The parents were grateful.

(Edit: sorry, that was in reply to @CentrifugalBumblePuppy )

FoodieToo · 29/11/2024 16:45

Popsicle82646 · 29/11/2024 16:28

So if they had the first dose before school and then say second when she gets home at 4pm ish when am I supposed to safely fit in 2 more doses before bed time??

Or right but I assumed if you were being very strict you would wake and administer . We had to do this a number of times.

Longma · 29/11/2024 16:41

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Peopleinmyphone · 29/11/2024 16:36

The teacher should have just admitted they forgot and apologised. I agree turning the responsibility back on your child would have annoyed me too. But then I have a child with SEN who definitely wouldn't remember, maybe some 7 year olds could.

Baggalotta · 29/11/2024 16:34

@CentrifugalBumblePuppy I completely agree that parents should spend some time inside a school to see what "teaching" is because if it were only as simple as teaching then it would be a much easier gig Grin