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To be a bit annoyed to be told to ‘be the parent’?

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givemeaminuteplease · 29/11/2024 12:25

I know that people will read the title and jump to an immediate YABU but hear me out.

18 month old DD is at that stage where she’s not happy about the pushchair. Obviously she sometimes has to go in it and she will tolerate it for short periods then starts wanting to get out.

Discussing a local event with a friend we went to last year and I said quite light heartedly I would give it as miss this year as it was so busy and DD would not be happy about the pushchair. She got quite arsey and said I needed to ‘be the parent’ and DD would have to go in it.

But the whole point of the event is that it’s for children / a family day and if we don’t enjoy it because we’ve got a whining toddler arching her back and trying to escape then what’s the point? Surely that isn’t ’not being a parent’ it’s just common sense? Or AIBU?

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OPsSockpuppet · 01/12/2024 13:30

Skybluepinky · 30/11/2024 18:00

Sounds like u need to seek out a parenting class.

I think OP sensibly left the thread before these incel types really got going.

ThatTwinklyEagle · 01/12/2024 09:02

You are not being unreasonable. No one knows what is best for your family other than you/your partner. Unsolicited opinions on your parenting are really not ok. If it were me, I’d probably be taking a step back from this friend who’s been judging your parenting style and thinks it’s ok to comment.

Lemons4171 · 01/12/2024 00:59

Politely just ADULT UP

Marieb19 · 30/11/2024 20:29

Sounds like if wasn't an event you really wanted to go to anyway. If it was, then maybe tough it out but either way, whatever you decude it's not your "friends" business.

Goldbar · 30/11/2024 20:13

IamMoodyBlue · 30/11/2024 19:32

You're letting an 18 month child rule? Heaven help you when they're 8!

What does this even mean?

If you had a dog, you wouldn't take it out on Bonfire Night, would you? Or to a hamster convention.

Though she enjoys the theatre, I wouldn't invite my elderly aunt to an open air or standing performance because she feels the cold and is not up for standing for long periods.

Likewise, small children shouldn't be confined to buggies for long periods of time if it can be avoided.

It's not about them "ruling", it's about meeting their needs while being considerate towards others.

IamMoodyBlue · 30/11/2024 19:32

You're letting an 18 month child rule? Heaven help you when they're 8!

Skybluepinky · 30/11/2024 18:00

Sounds like u need to seek out a parenting class.

Katemax82 · 30/11/2024 11:37

What are you supposed to do? Force your kid in the pushchair?
My daughter was out of the pushchair by 18 months, I never made her go in it i thought it good for her development to walk

StripyHorse · 30/11/2024 11:01

ClaudiaWankleman · 29/11/2024 12:39

It’s irrelevant though because the 18 month old isn’t being the boss. The parent preempting the behaviour of their child and not allowing it to get to that point in the first place is very clearly a demonstration of a parent being in charge.

Exactly this.

Toddlers walking and exploring is exactly what they need to develop, it's natural that they want to. Obviously at 18 months they don't understand that while this is encouraged at the park, it isn't safe or practical at a crowded event.

If this event is for children, but the child in question isn't going to be able to enjoy it properly, of course you can give it a miss.

MargaretThursday · 30/11/2024 11:00

I think it depends on whether you are thinking that this is an event she won't enjoy and will mean that no one enjoys it with the fuss she makes or if you have slipped into a habit of saying "oh no, we can't do that because dd won't do x".

If it's the former, then you've made a decision that fits with you. And there are times when we do/don't do something for the dc's enjoyment, especially when it effects others.
If it's the latter, then you do want to start thinking about how you are going to tackle her making a fuss to get her own way.

My dd2 was a dreadful buggy refuser. But being #2 there were times we had to get somewhere and she had to go in. Often she would go on the buggy board which she loved (sometimes with big sister in the buggy), but there were times when (we didn't have a car either) she had to go in.
She knew there were times that she was told and she had to go in, but getting her to that stage did involve strapping her in with screams sometimes.

Probablyshouldntsay · 30/11/2024 10:48

Im with you OP. Christmas markets aren’t fun for toddlers, all they have is the view of the back of people’s legs crammed together, it’s noisy, people are knocking the chair jolting you around. Fuck that 😂

hazelnutvanillalatte · 30/11/2024 10:31

SisterAgatha · 29/11/2024 13:16

I used to take my two around central london in a double buggy and with a couple of slings. I had a 14 month gap and it was through all ages and stages. We had reins for the older one and a bigger sling so I could side carry without complaint, and a carry cot attachment for when the baby needed to sleep (kangasling if she needed to be held)

I have to admit I found it easy but I am a “just get the shit done” person. I would let them walk or carry them if that helped to get the shit done. The pushchair isn’t the only way. I remember my middle one was so strong he stood up to walk with the umbrella buggy on his back like a rucksack!!!

But if it’s something entirely pointless that no one will enjoy then I am with you, it’s a waste. Do something else you will enjoy!

Gold star for you

Porcuine20 · 30/11/2024 07:50

It’s easy to say if you’ve had fairly easy-going kids, or if you don’t have kids but are used to being able to get older kids to do what they’re told at work (which as we all know is completely different).
I used to walk back from toddler group with a friend - we’d put them in the pushchairs to walk home, she’d say to hers ‘time for sleep’ and her dd would obligingly close her eyes and try really hard to sleep. Mine would wriggle out of the straps, stand up, scream when I strapped her back in, if I let her walk she’d flop down onto the pavement and whinge. My friend was very well-meaning and kept giving me advice like ‘you just need to get her favourite toy to ask her to sit nicely in the pushchair’ which of course I’d tried, along with so many other things, and I felt like a total failure of a parent. In the long term though it’s been no indicator of behaviour issues - both are lovely girls (and good friends) at 13, but my friend is struggling a lot more with her dd’s teenage anger and angst (lots of blazing rows) - it’s come as a complete shock to her. These days mine is the more easygoing one, but I’m not taking credit for that.
I wouldn’t go on that day out either - sounds like it wouldn’t be fun for anyone.

User79853257976 · 30/11/2024 07:29

Ablondiebutagoody · 29/11/2024 12:32

I'm with your friend. Slippery slope letting an 18 month old be the boss.

The child doesn’t know about the decision to not go. The OP knows what she can handle at the moment and that that. It won’t be enjoyable if the child is screaming the whole time.

Summerlilly · 30/11/2024 06:09

You are definitely not being unreasonable here. My 22 month old is doing the same thing atm. Refuses the buggy and wants to walk or be held. She’s even managed to work out how it manoeuvre her way out of the straps of either and attempt to climb on me.
It’s a little stressful trying to get her back in while she protests loudly in the store.

I don’t think people who have not been in that situation understand how stressful it is and how much you feel like a mug because everyone is looking at you and you’ve chosen not to pick that battle.

GettingStuffed · 30/11/2024 05:26

I was going to say reins too. At 18 months most children will walk and then want to be carried or go back in pushchair.

As an aside DD's friend had her toddler on reins and there was promotion for an event with a dalek and he said naughty human has little human on a lead.

Spirallingdownwards · 30/11/2024 05:11

I can see both sides.

I wouldn't miss out on an event I wanted to go to but equally if I am not that fussed about going I would miss it if more hassle than its worth.

Happyhappyday · 30/11/2024 04:22

SoloSofa24 · 29/11/2024 12:30

I think that's called 'picking your battles' - so I'm with you. If it's not an essential outing and it would be miserable for both of you, then skip it.

Save the battles over being in the pushchair for when it is essential for safety or logistics.

This. 100%! It’s same when people said “oh we don’t mind if she cries through dinner…” so we’d go out to a big meal. Good for you… no fun for me dealing with a screaming child!

Guest100 · 30/11/2024 04:00

It sounds like your friend was trying to bully you into doing what they wanted. Of course you can force your DD into the pram, unless she can get out the straps, but she is just going to scream. Its ok to say no this won’t work for me.

steponacrackbreakyourmothersback · 30/11/2024 03:51

givemeaminuteplease · 29/11/2024 12:49

Generally she doesn’t want to walk, she wants to be carried (not in a backpack style carrier either, in my arms) which is obviously impractical.

I don’t think I’m letting her be the boss, I’m just genuinely puzzled at what the point of going to an activity no one would enjoy would be!

I'm with you. So you should all be miserable just to prove a point that you're the boss. No thanks.

Ponderingwindow · 30/11/2024 03:47

You are ‘being the parent’. You are respecting your child and not forcing her into a pushchair and ignoring her. Aside from rare brief periods where safety or logistics mean there is no alternative, leaving your child to scream in a pushchair for adult convenience is bad parenting. Just walking past those parents it is hard not to tell them off. I don’t because that isn’t how the world works, but I always want to.

Garlicpest · 30/11/2024 03:32

PotteryOne · 29/11/2024 12:35

I’m with you. I don’t see the point in spending money and time on an optional activity where a large percentage will be spent listening to my toddler screeching and trying to escape the buggy. It just won’t be enjoyable for any of us.

This suddenly brought back memories of multiple days out (we were a big family, the toddler years were many) with adults yelling "WE'RE HERE TO ENJOY OURSELVES! SHUT UP AND ENJOY IT!" 😳🙄😭🤣

Yes, pick your battles.

user942557 · 30/11/2024 03:20

Baby carrier/ wrap is your friend here.

cadburyegg · 29/11/2024 17:26

YANBU. I agree with the poster that said you have to pick your battles and there will be times where you have to use the pushchair and deal with the meltdown.

I think what some people don't realise is that events are not fun for parents if the children are miserable.

Your friend sounds irritating. Reminds me of when I was still adjusting to being a single parent and an ex friend told me that "it's not rocket science, you're their mother, they are your responsibility!" 🙄

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 29/11/2024 17:12

trivialMorning · 29/11/2024 14:44

I am 😂 at those saying ‘toddler dictates the family activities’ though - that’s what they do!

It used to be my IL most intolerant on few things we'd insist on concession for our young kid - now on family days out it's IL needs that need to be considered and adapted to. There are days out we skip entirely with them and do something else because the physical demands are likely too much for IL.

Considering the event for all going and their needs is fairly basic planning - no idea why your friend made the comment perhaps she was in work mode and was thinking more generally than your parenting.

I was thinking similar this morning!

I don't see what's so outrageous about accommodating the needs of the smallest member of the party who's least likely to understand why they're being limited/wait for food etc. Older people, for the most part, should be able to manage their wants for a little while.