No snowboarding on school ski trip

Sounds like the school doesn't have a teacher who snowboards and can keep up with the group bur if the letter was clear then he doesn't have any complaints to make.

Either she goes or doesn't sounds like he is foot stomping because that's the type of person he is!

Quite a lot of schools in our area have stopped doing snowboarding on the ski trip as too many were getting injured

He had no reason to think snowboarding was included, even if it had in previous years, as the letter clearly stated it wasn’t. The trips have ratios of staff to students, and if there isn’t anyone to staff to advanced snowboarding group as he seems to want, it then the activity can’t go ahead. If all the parents complaining are doing so because they want their kids to snowboard too, then there could maybe be a shuffle in the groups. But if she’s the only one, or if the others are all going to be in the beginners group, I doubt they’d all be willing to pay the extra for another member of staff (plus possibly their supply cover) for her to be able to do it. He probably thinks he can take her himself and will expect her to still be involved in the activities with her friends despite not being part of the trip.

Oh there is no one was on about the difference. It was about the money and that if they didn't snowboard on the trip then they are missing out of an opportunity they would never get....bull, if they can afford such a high cost trip then they could afford a high cost activity was the point you missed.

I love to ski but the ease of walking in snowboard boots always tempts me. That and the feeling of falling through the air on the turns rather than fiddling about with poles! But overall skiing wins.

Honestly the appeal for me (aside from boarding being much easier ) is that I don’t injure myself boarding, despite riding a lot harder than I ski.

When I skied regularly and not just pootling about on blue runs with DS after ski school, I used to twist my knee at least once per trip and need a few days laid up icing it.

Those sorts of injuries just don’t happen on a board (because your legs are tied together). Your joints are so much more protected on a snowboard.

Ooooooh get YOU!! Skiing AND snowboarding. 😂😂😂😂 👜

You don’t sound friendly hun. I understand the difference between a school trip and a holiday (obviously) but lots of posters were unsure how one might assume a ski trip would include snowboarding. As you’ll see from OP’s later posts, the ski trip had actually included snowboarding in past years. So, not an entirely outrageous assumption for the dad to make.

He can be criticised for behaving like a cunt, but not for starting from the assumption he did.

Congrats on being able to ski. I ski and snowboard. See you in Elevenereife next summer.

Oh I'm very friendly pet. Also a very experienced skier who understands this is a school ski trip and not a family holiday. HTH

Aren’t you friendly? 😂😂😂

It's a school ski trip. Not a family holiday. Do you not understand the difference?

Talk about missing the point.

There is a massive difference between. Having snowboarding lessons in England and going boarding in the mountains.

This!

If you can afford the ski trip and want to snowboard then your parents surely should put the money towards lessons at home not a big trip. There is no restrictions as the money is there so needs to be spent more wisely then!

“If she’s not very good at skiing yet, won’t she get better on a week’s trip?” innocent face

He sounds unbearable. He’s one of those people who’s obsessed with a hobby he perceives as ‘cool’ and ‘unusual’ enough to set him apart from others. He probably came to it late himself. And he’s being weirdly posturing and territorial about it. Just laugh at him.

Thank you, this reply makes much more sense.

Like @Margzarita, I disagreed with your original comment; my own experience has been that boarding is generally easier/more fun and is still equally popular.

"...and now that's sort of changed because middle aged people now board, so boarding is more of a personal preference"

This did make me smile. I am very definitively a "grey on a tray" nowadays. I've just turned 59 and it's nice to know that I still count as one of the "middle aged people" who "now board"! I first went snowboarding when I was 29 back in the 1990s.

But, thinking about things, it has been several years since we've been snowboarding in Europe. We've been going to the USA and Canada in the last few years. The whole vibe there is very different indeed to a French or Swiss ski chalet.

btw, if you're ever concerned about lack of snow, then look to Japan. Especially the northern island of Hokkaido. They typically have 15 metres (yes, metres) of snow every year. Even the lower lying cities get around 5 metres a year.

Snowboarding isn't part of the trip this year.

It's really that simple.

Can see why he's divorced. How awful for his poor ex wife and son.

Dad is showing himself to be an utter arse, absolutely full of himself, and he's busy ensuring everyone knows it.

Shame, really, as his daughter is likely to grow up just like him by the sound of it.

'Never mind, I'm sure if she practices hard she will soon be able to manage 2 skis instead of one' 🤣

Of course I wouldn't say that as he is the twat, not his daughter.
But unless it is a winter sports trip I would point put that snowboarding and skiing are separate sports. Perhaps he should think about working on his reading and comprehension skill......

Are skiing and snowboarding rated equally for the safety? From my Skiing days I assume Staff Ratios and locality of runs are important factors.

On this years letter it clearly stated that due to staffing no snowboarding would be offered.

This is the only important and relevant information.

It doesn't matter what happened in previous years. I'm sure there were lots of differences - wouldn't be surprised if the cost has increased for one thing. The school made it clear it was only skiing, his dd signed up on that basis, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. Doesn't matter if his (I'm assuming ex) was the one who actually received the letter, he obviously knew enough about it to agree to her going, whether her mum discussed all the details with him is nothing to do with the school!

Not only could the school fine him for taking his dd out during term time but surely he's also liable for the full school trip payment as well?
His poor dd is going to have a bit of a shock when she goes to uni and nobody cares how amazing she is (and when she is surrounded by others better than her!)

So they don’t now have a teacher who can accompany snowboarding group and made it clear on booking. He can’t want his dc alone unsupervised in a foreign country and I’m sure his dc would prefer to be with her friends.
I’m a volunteer girl guiding leader who goes on trips and it’s a definite trend that some parents only think of their child and fail to understand how different caring for a group and children that aren’t your own is.
Had a brownie mum complaining her dd hadn’t been allowed to buy a fizzy drink. Leader explained about how we couldn’t let a 7 yr old go to a bar alone in public bowling alley. Mum didn’t mean that - she meant leave the other kids unsupervised and take her child.

Him being a braggart doesn’t mean that this isn’t down to his DD really wanting to snowboard, though. However, if the letter said just skiing, it’s far too late for him to be kicking up a fuss now and it does make him look like a tit.

Are the parents separated? Some of the detail you’ve given sounds like it might be a bit of a tiff between the mum and dad playing out, too.

It was clear from the start. The school's letter about the trip said it would be skiing only and that snowboarding was not on offer this year.

People said that long before OP revealed that info about the snowboarding teacher gone.