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virgo22 · 28/11/2024 12:33

does anyone else just think there must be more to life than what we have in the UK? We have a mortgage and love our home, but constantly sick of chasing our tails, hardly spending much time together as a family due to always working and needing to pay the bills probably be unhappy anyway.
my children are aged 3 and 7 months and I think I would love to create a better life for them by having a better lifestyle. Me and my partner would love to sell the house, move and start a fresh and start living our life. Life is so short and I feel like why not, when life is for living.

has anyone done this? I hate this rat race that we find ourselves in here.

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Pammi2 · 05/02/2025 12:16

Hello, where to start getting medical cover for NLV with pre exisiting medical conditions?

Dutch1e · 30/11/2024 17:57

I've lived in Spain and it's fine. Obviously all the ups and downs of being an immigrant and needing to learn a new language asap to properly assimilate.

But I was also a non-EU immigrant like you would be and I wouldn't do it again. Hard, hard slog. Brexit really fucked you all over, and everyone wants to move to the EU. You'd be better off choosing any other non-EU country and trying your luck there.

Bignanna · 30/11/2024 17:25

SeatonCarew · 29/11/2024 17:10

I'm writing this from our second home in Spain. We spend 5-6 months here, EU spouse but don't want to spend over half a year here and be liable to Spanish tax (other than our property taxes of course), as our affairs are set up for UK.

I second many of the issues and problems others have highlighted OP. At your age and stage of life you would severely affect your family's prospects by moving over here. It's as hot as hell in the south in summer, we never plan to be here in July and August because it can hit 50 degrees where we are, and we have the option of not being here.

On the other hand, it's a fab place to have a bolthole when you are approaching or have entered retirement. Find the right spot and you will find a host of people who don't work any more and are up for meeting new people and having a load of fun. It's the best! At your stage of life, it is fraught with difficulty.

My advice as a northern European is to work hard now and plan for the future. If you can afford a little flat or something in the meantime, maybe buy that. There are still some bargains to be had, though they're going fast. Good luck. 😊🌴🌞

Edited to add Murcia province is up and coming fast, and prices can still be v reasonable.

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What about the fact that after three months away from the U.K. you are no longer entitled to to free NHS care, or do you go for less than that each time?

virgo22 · 30/11/2024 09:43

So many positive comments thank you to those who have given advice and practical advice from doing the move. This post wasn’t me saying I’m selling my house tomorrow to move to Spain, it’s just wondering what else is out there in life to enjoy it more, have a better work life balance, enjoy the little things in life.

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Crikeyalmighty · 29/11/2024 17:20

@SeatonCarew I 100% agree- as I mentioned below I have friends who do it around 24 weeks a year split into 4 lots of 6 weeks at a time to fit the Brexit situation as they aren't EU.. They avoid July and August and get some great rentals and go all over- they downsized considerably in UK at same time but have their taxes and business interests in UK - it costs them around £14k a year but they feel it's giving them a double life and their bank interest on not buying anywhere is covering that.

SeatonCarew · 29/11/2024 17:10

I'm writing this from our second home in Spain. We spend 5-6 months here, EU spouse but don't want to spend over half a year here and be liable to Spanish tax (other than our property taxes of course), as our affairs are set up for UK.

I second many of the issues and problems others have highlighted OP. At your age and stage of life you would severely affect your family's prospects by moving over here. It's as hot as hell in the south in summer, we never plan to be here in July and August because it can hit 50 degrees where we are, and we have the option of not being here.

On the other hand, it's a fab place to have a bolthole when you are approaching or have entered retirement. Find the right spot and you will find a host of people who don't work any more and are up for meeting new people and having a load of fun. It's the best! At your stage of life, it is fraught with difficulty.

My advice as a northern European is to work hard now and plan for the future. If you can afford a little flat or something in the meantime, maybe buy that. There are still some bargains to be had, though they're going fast. Good luck. 😊🌴🌞

Edited to add Murcia province is up and coming fast, and prices can still be v reasonable.

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 29/11/2024 15:08

Have a look at Move to Spain on FB.
Tons of info on different visas, schooling, property, etc.

NineDaysQueen · 29/11/2024 15:02

tilypu · 29/11/2024 14:41

Why are people pulling me up for using the word - I was making a joke, quoting someone else's post!

Sorry!

W0tnow · 29/11/2024 14:52

My post was to @NineDaysQueen

tilypu · 29/11/2024 14:41

NineDaysQueen · 29/11/2024 06:51

Platonic??
That's a non-sexual relationship!

Why are people pulling me up for using the word - I was making a joke, quoting someone else's post!

Bignanna · 29/11/2024 13:52

tilypu · 29/11/2024 05:24

Yes..as I was quoting someone else, and that's the word they used. Hence my joke.

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Reading back,I see what you mean!

Abra1t · 29/11/2024 08:30

NineDaysQueen · 29/11/2024 06:51

Platonic??
That's a non-sexual relationship!

It also refers to the platonic ideal of something—basically, perfection.

W0tnow · 29/11/2024 08:07

Well, aren’t you rude?

They were mid teens when we moved, as I said in my original post. Why would I put them in a non English school with zero Spanish at 14+ years old? All 3 did 5 lessons of Spanish a week at their school, and extra lessons after school. Two did Spanish at AS level. Two dropped it in year 13. One is doing it as her 4th A level, and doing night classes twice a week. One is at university and having dropped it as her 4th A level, is taking night classes while studying medicine. I am super proud of them for having done so well, landing here and knowing none. I’m super proud of them for integrating so well at a school where pretty much every kid was bi-lingual and Spanish was the dominant language in the playground. 2 of them have Spanish best friends. Collectively they have a friend group hailing from Spain, Argentina, Chile, the US, Algeria, the UK, Germany, China, and loads more.

Oh, and I’m not British.

Anything else you’d like to be a dick about?

kittensinthekitchen · 29/11/2024 07:32

Wow, what difference responses here in comparison with recent 'immigrant' threads.

sometimesmovingforwards · 29/11/2024 07:26

Dotto · 28/11/2024 15:49

This sounds completely unrealistic. You basically want to spend all your equity and savings on living near a beach and not working properly. Never gonna happen, soz.

I agree. It’s a pipe dream with no substance.

CaptainRedbeardandbigbadbarry · 29/11/2024 07:24

We’ve got NI numbers so can move there and are giving it serious thought.

Catza · 29/11/2024 07:12

hattie43 · 29/11/2024 05:48

I don't know about moving there but we had a holiday to Malaga this year and were shocked at how much better it was there .
So much cheaper for groceries, eating out . The streets were spotless , no litter or graffiti that we saw . Much more general respect , no shouting , fights , anti social behaviour . And there were police regularly patrolling by car in the town and car / bike combo on the beach . Made for a very nice experience and really highlighted how awful Britain is now .

You just can't compare a holiday destination with regular neighbourhoods. There is crime, litter and no police in sight outside of the tourist hotspots as you would expect to find in the UK.

liveforsummer · 29/11/2024 07:05

liveforsummer · 29/11/2024 06:43

Not Spain but I lived in Cyprus for 10 years. If you don't speak the language fluently then your options are really working in a holiday resort which is somewhat seasonal. Even if you find a year round job it's likely you'd be working far longer hours through the summer and not enjoying any of the lifestyle that you imagine and weather not really warm enough to do so in winter when it's quieter. 9-5 Monday to Friday is a breeze in comparison! I moved back in time for my eldest starting school and although I miss certain aspects I'd say it's altogether a better balance here with more opportunities, especially given DC's interests (although perhaps Spain has far more than Cyprus). Also look at the schooling system I struggled with not speaking the language fluently and that was just at nursery level - they already got homework and lines to learn for plays that I couldn't much help with. Formal school is started later as is often mentioned here as a benefit, but nursery is far more formal and once it does start it's very intense. Little to know fun or creative side. Of dc don't pass the year they stay back and re sit rather then move up with their peers. Dc are both dyslexic and this wouldn't have suited them at all! Lots more to think about than just the sun in the sky!

Forgot to add that this was all pre brexit. My plans of retirement back there are now pretty much scuppered!

Spondoolie · 29/11/2024 06:57

Your point is valid - live to work, boring tedious repetitive lifestyle etc. Spain isn’t the answer. But there will be an answer- move somewhere cheaper and be mortgage free, start a family business, move elsewhere in world where cost of living is much less…

NineDaysQueen · 29/11/2024 06:57

W0tnow · 28/11/2024 13:56

I love that my kids can travel freely on (dirt) cheap, reliable public transport at all hours of the day and night in safety. I love that we can afford to live in the centre of the city in a bright spacious home that would cost probably 7 times as much in central London. The kids go to a British school, though I guess as yours are so young you won’t need to worry about the language thing as much as they will pick it up easily.

I love that it’s not cold and miserable. I detest the heat at the height of summer though, it really is something else! I don’t know if it’s better. It’s certainly better for us. It really is an individual choice.

Way to integrate. Send your kids to a British school.
This is what many ex-pats do, yet hate it when immgrants do the same here
British people remain very much 'do as I say, not as I do' in their collective attitude

FergussSingsTheBlues · 29/11/2024 06:54

I lived in Spain for years. Yes there is a better life balance generally but overall it’s the same shit in a different place

NineDaysQueen · 29/11/2024 06:51

tilypu · 28/11/2024 12:56

I've got spanish friends in the UK who had this platonic idea about the quality of life there and went back, only to realise they couldn't go back to work there and returned to the UK

So they realised it wasn't platonic, and thought 'fuck this'?? 😁

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Platonic??
That's a non-sexual relationship!

NineDaysQueen · 29/11/2024 06:48

Do you think other countries will be welcoming you as migrants with the same attitude the UK's?

EspanaPorfavor · 29/11/2024 06:45

virgo22 · 29/11/2024 06:34

@EspanaPorfavor that's amazing news! When did you make the move? Any advice you can give on looking into the process/deciding how you took the plunge?

Sorry, I replied without seeing your question!

I moved about 12 years ago for a little adventure because I was bored of my dead end job in a Coventry call center, but never went home! It was easy because it was pre Brexit, and because the idea was to go for a year, I didn’t put much thought into it at all!

Then when DC were born, it made sense to stay here where paternity leave is 4 months and nursery is free. We moved back to England for 6 months (to beautiful Cambridge and had the most idyllic time there) but the work life balance (lack of) we experienced there sealed the deal and we bought our flat in Spain shortly after. My DHs English boss there didn’t get the whole “but it’s sunny so obviously we’ll leave work at 3pm today” thing!!

If I could choose anywhere, I’d probably go near Madrid. All other regions (including mine!) have a third language which makes things very hard for incomers, or is too hot!

liveforsummer · 29/11/2024 06:43

Not Spain but I lived in Cyprus for 10 years. If you don't speak the language fluently then your options are really working in a holiday resort which is somewhat seasonal. Even if you find a year round job it's likely you'd be working far longer hours through the summer and not enjoying any of the lifestyle that you imagine and weather not really warm enough to do so in winter when it's quieter. 9-5 Monday to Friday is a breeze in comparison! I moved back in time for my eldest starting school and although I miss certain aspects I'd say it's altogether a better balance here with more opportunities, especially given DC's interests (although perhaps Spain has far more than Cyprus). Also look at the schooling system I struggled with not speaking the language fluently and that was just at nursery level - they already got homework and lines to learn for plays that I couldn't much help with. Formal school is started later as is often mentioned here as a benefit, but nursery is far more formal and once it does start it's very intense. Little to know fun or creative side. Of dc don't pass the year they stay back and re sit rather then move up with their peers. Dc are both dyslexic and this wouldn't have suited them at all! Lots more to think about than just the sun in the sky!

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