Secondary school does not allow D.Martens

Sorry but I don't think DM boots are suitably smart school shoes

Dm shoes should be ok though

I genuinely don't understand how you know the school uniform is shoes. And yet you send her in wearing boots, and then have an argument with school about it.

Please just follow the school rules

Buy her some school shoes or find a school which fits with your own uniform policy!

Your daughter needs to wear shoes that comply with the school rules.

It doesn't matter what her reasoning is. Aside from that, her reasoning is appalling... she wants to be able to wear them so that she's capable of inflicting harm on another child. Even if it is in self defence.

I can't understand why you think that's reasonable?

And why are you looking up videos of school fights on YouTube? You're feeding into this narrative that your child is unsafe in her school, which she has no doubt picked up on. You're also feeding into the narrative that somehow the rules shouldn't apply to her because she feels differently.

Be a parent. Buy her the shoes appropriate to the rules. Very few schools permit DM boots as uniform.

Exactly this. If you are part of the problem………….

I think you must hope that your application for a different school is successful and that your daughter can move. It’s a shame though, as you decided it was the school you wanted and it’s less than a term in.

You’ve decided that’s the hill to die on, you’ve had several meetings, you’re supporting your daughter in ignoring the expectations you signed up to when she joined the school and you’re introducing other students into your disagreement with them. It’s also implicit in what you’ve said, that you’re accepting that your daughter may be violent if she feels it is warranted.

I think that you are probably already flagged as ‘that parent’ and her as ‘that child’. You’ve gone to the head teacher over footwear, when the school is enforcing the policy you signed up to.

I hope your daughter is able to change schools and I hope the next one is all you want it to be. Otherwise, what are you going to do?

Why are you searching YouTube for violent incidents between pupils?

All my kids wear DMs for school, especially now it's freezing outside, they can wear chunky socks underneath, although if any of them said they were only wearing them to kick the bullies I'd be a bit more concerned about the bigger issue here, the issue is not the shoes, these teachers need to be doing more to get to the bottom of the bigger picture here, regardless of what shoes your child is wearing

You realise your you and your daughter are just as much as a problem for the school community? I don't really want my children going to school with a girl wearing boots ready to kick someone thank you!

I asked what steps have been taken about the situation and she explained that it is a complicated case involving various family members from both families, including the adults, and that the police is involved. Also both students involved are suspend.

So I assume you said "Good know, thank you. I appreciate that's none of my business but I'm glad it's being dealt with. I'll get DD the proper footwear now."

YABU. You can't teach your DD to ignore school rules in case she wants to kick people hard. Buy her some school shoes.

I don’t know why you’re continually bringing up an incident your daughter wasn’t involved in to justify her wearing boots she’s proudly told adults she can kick people with? Of course they’re bringing it up you’ve both made it their problem?

Your anti-bullying crusade is fine but irrelevant. They've told your DMs aren't allowed. Get her Kickers or whatever else is allowed instead. Fighting this is stupid and pointless. If you hate the school so much, put that energy into moving her to one you approve of, and get the right uniform for that.

If this is real, which I don't think it is, it would be an example of why behaviour is so bad in school these days, the sense of entitlement and loss of respect for authority and rules.

You can get DM school shoes. They don't have the yellow. But if their boots, like 8 holes plus, it's not uniform compliant. It needs to be a shoe.
Or if she likes kickers get her those. To me kickers have the same level of colour/embellishment as DMs? So just buy plain black DM shoes? But it's not my rules.
They're not complaining about the actual brand, more the colour/style surely?
It's not really the right school if you're not keen on that level of rules. I don't blame you, I wouldn't like it either. But it is what it is.

starting to think this is a wind up post

OP seems to be ignoring all reasonable responses

These entitled posts drive me up the wall.

OP, here it is spelled out:

You're responsible as a parent for ensuring your daughter is in receipt of a suitable full-time education.

To fulfil this responsibility, you've chosen to send her to a school.

The school has rules around behaviour and uniform. Very standard. In choosing to send her there, you have also by default chosen to accept these rules.

You must therefore ensure she is dressed in line with the uniform policy of the school or expect there to be sanctions.

Whether or not you feel the boots don't impact her learning is irrelevant. Whether or not your DD feels "safer" in them is irrelevant. Whether or not your DD loves her DM boots is irrelevant. Whether or not you think the rule is stupid is irrelevant. Whether or not every other student in the place is wearing what you think are non-policy shoes is irrelevant. Your concern is your DD.

Follow the rules of the school you chose until such time as you can choose a different option to fulfil your parental responsibility.

"Also the policy say shoes but a lot of the the student wear kickers boots, not shoes."

The actual Kickers boots, like the Kade or Kenzi boot? Not their Hi shoes?

If that's what you're talking about then you're totally right to complain that one brand of boot is allowed but another isn't.

Image of Kickers Kade boot below.

HT gave you all that information did she?

The school uniform doesn't allow boots. So get her some school shoes and tell her she has to wear them.

All the other stuff is just noise. She's not following the uniform rules

I don't see dm boots as school shoes sorry op