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Secondary school does not allow D.Martens

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corporategreen · 28/11/2024 11:59

Dd in Y7 - unfortunatelly we picked the wrong school, teachers don’t stay long, behaviour is appaling, bullying is not dealt with and I even found a video on YT of a parent beating up one of her child’s colleagues - a disabled girl (apparently club feet) at the school gates.
Dd says that disable girl is a bully but I don’t know the full story.

Anyway, the school uniform rules say black shoes. I let Dd use her black DM boots. The issue took an issue with it because DMs are not school shoes - but a lot of students wear kickers that looks like boots so I really don’t see a problem.
I’ve had notes sent home and a few meetings to discuss the matter. Everytime I tell then that they should be worried and using their time and energy to fix the real problems the school have, and the shoes Dd wears does not impact her learning.

Then in one of the meetings they asked Dd why she loves her DMs so much and why she is so attached to it and she reply along the lines that it is because it makes her feel safe as they are strong and sturdy and she feels that she can kick bullies if needed.

Now, Dd has never been involved in or accused of bullying and she is going from an confident / outgoing girl to fearful and insecure. I did not know this is how she felt about the DMs.

Now the school is using what she said against us, saying that she should not be encouraged to think about violence even if it is for self defence. Dd’s life now is hell as every school staff now comments on her DMs to her daily, all day long saying ‘those are not school shoes and you are breaking the rules’

I’m trying to convince her to buy a pair of kickers just so the harassment stops and she can actually focus on learning.

Yes I already applied for school transfer.

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cardibach · 28/11/2024 12:06

corporategreen · 28/11/2024 12:05

Yes but in Y7 she has only started learning the politics of secondary school jungle and finding out sometimes you can’t be 100% honest unfortunately

That’s not ‘secondary school jungle’, it’s common sense that it’s daft to say you like your boots because you could hurt someone with them. And if it’s not, if she meant it, then there are issues you and the school need to deal with.

BeensOnToost · 28/11/2024 12:05

What do you mean, you're trying to c9nvince dd to wear Kickers instead? Because it sounds like you think you need her permission to tell her what she will be wearing to school.

corporategreen · 28/11/2024 12:05

Brefugee · 28/11/2024 12:01

DD gave a glib silly answer.
She should have said "sturdy, hardwearing, comfortable"

Yes but in Y7 she has only started learning the politics of secondary school jungle and finding out sometimes you can’t be 100% honest unfortunately

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eRobin · 28/11/2024 12:05

It’s more likely that the disabled child has been bullied relentlessly for a long time and is finally fighting back

cardibach · 28/11/2024 12:05

arcticpandas · 28/11/2024 12:03

I understand why the school has a no dm rule. In a fight they can be quite dangerous..

They aren’t all steel toe capped bovver boots…

Ohthatsabitshit · 28/11/2024 12:05

Just buy school shoes made by DM and tell her they will be good and sturdy for school.

cardibach · 28/11/2024 12:04

BarbaraHoward · 28/11/2024 12:03

I don't think most schools with a uniform policy would allow DMs? If the uniform policy states school shoes, they're not... shoes.

This isn't worth the argument IMO.

DMs make shoes. I wear them all the time. The OP needs to ask if DM shoes would be allowed. Every school I’ve worked in would allow them, but not the boots of the rule is shoes

cardibach · 28/11/2024 12:03

Octavia64 · 28/11/2024 12:02

Just buy her some school shoes fgs.

This. She’s in Y7. Don’t try to convince her to buy kickers. Buy them. Or if she really loves DMs, ask if DM shoes would be acceptable (you’ve said it’s boots she has) and buy those. Second hand if they are too pricey.

arcticpandas · 28/11/2024 12:03

I understand why the school has a no dm rule. In a fight they can be quite dangerous..

BarbaraHoward · 28/11/2024 12:03

I don't think most schools with a uniform policy would allow DMs? If the uniform policy states school shoes, they're not... shoes.

This isn't worth the argument IMO.

EdnaTheWitch · 28/11/2024 12:03

DM shoes instead for school, keeps her boots for other things 🤷🏻‍♀️

Octavia64 · 28/11/2024 12:02

Just buy her some school shoes fgs.

cardibach · 28/11/2024 12:02

So it’s DM boots when the rule says shoes? Not that DMs aren’t allowed at all.
Really odd to say she likes them because she could kick someone wit( them too - that would raise all kinds of red flags with the school.

MiraculousLadybug · 28/11/2024 12:01

Brefugee · 28/11/2024 12:01

DD gave a glib silly answer.
She should have said "sturdy, hardwearing, comfortable"

Exactly. That would have been a good case for it.

Brefugee · 28/11/2024 12:01

DD gave a glib silly answer.
She should have said "sturdy, hardwearing, comfortable"

MiraculousLadybug · 28/11/2024 12:01

Sorry YABU. You've stated she wants them so she can "kick bullies". The school can ban anything they like. Bovver boots have been banned in schools since I was there in the early 90s, I'm not sure why they should make a comeback and you're not making a very good case for it TBH.

GretchenWienersHair · 28/11/2024 12:00

YANBU. The weather is getting colder and they are suitable for the weather. I’d fight it.