Blasphemy Laws

I think you must be on the wind up my dear.

If you're not and you'd like to live in such a society there are plenty of options for you in the middle east. Off you pop.

You were the one who referred to 'Two Tier Keir' - this is a term used by people who believe that the rioters who attacked asylum seeker hotels and community libraries, as well as those who incited them online, were treated differently from other protesters. Which is nonsense. Using the term suggests that you believe it to be true, however.

Can I start a religion where anyone who annoys me (precisely how I'll determine later) has to pay me £10K then? If not, why not?

And I say this as someone of sincere religious faith.

Who is inciting people to set fire to buildings- sorry I have completely lost you. Has anyone done that on this thread? What point are you trying to make

We already have this to a degree where we cannot openly talk about women and their biological reality. We get frowned up, shunned, sacked, arrested, taken to court and cancelled if we don’t want to include men in the definition.

This ‘religion’ is already supported by the Prime Minister and police forces. The Scottish government enshrined it in law supported by Amnesty international this week.

So this week it’s a sly creep of pronouns, so what if next week it’s PBUH or ‘There is only one God’? Let’s just rip up freedom of speech and freedom of thought - what’s happened to women proves it no longer seems to matter.

So some mad mullah can come and nick my TV if he thinks I've blasphemed Mohammed?

I wouldn’t envisage the police requiring many additional resources to deal with blasphemy offences. Much of the investigation and sentencing could be done within communities by community leaders and elders from the relevant faiths

What - kangaroo courts handing out sentences and run by "officials" whose only accountability is to their own community?
Doubtless it would appeal to some but this really isn't the way the UK justice system is run and nor should it be

Oh do come off it! A picture of Mohammed! And as there are some nutters who would be happy to kill a person for drawing it, I really think you have lost the plot.

I assume you’re taking the piss?

Right, so that would be legalising theft then. I'm not sure whether you're serious or satirical here - it's hard to believe someone could be so tone deaf.

Then there is the indisputable fact that by making someone subject to the rules of a religion they are not a part of, you are essentially ending freedom of religion in the UK.

Confiscating of property from who? The people who don't believe in the silly religion?

Thanks for highlighting this op.
I fully believe we need to keep moving away from religion as a world.
We need to get a point of global liberation where people can "choose" not have this enforced brain washing.

Community leaders could use principles from their religion to help determine appropriate punishments. For example, sharia law refers to confiscation of property as a potential consequence of blasphemy.

I think my comments were in response to someone else, park bench though I probably hit quote from your reply. I agree with your points.

Yes exactly

JC is constantly thrown around casually

Wonder what would happen if the same happened about another religious figure

Whole act needs quashing

What religious practices did you have in mind?

Not that I think any of your ideas are anything other than monstrous and deluded, obviously.

I'm Christian and blasphemy offends me but I would be massively anti this in law! We already have protection against hate it discrimination for religious people under the equality act that is all we need. a blasphemy law would be impingement of free speech and that is not a country I want to live in

@DemonicCaveMaggot

I wouldn’t envisage the police requiring many additional resources to deal with blasphemy offences. Much of the investigation and sentencing could be done within communities by community leaders and elders from the relevant faiths.

Not every criticism of religion should be criminalised, but action should be taken where these are offensive, hurtful or hateful. Faith leaders and elders based within communities should have the right to determine which offences need to be punished and how best to encourage community cohesion.

I could foresee education and training (such as attending a church or mosque service) being used to handle minor misunderstandings or insensitivities. However, more egregious issues such as depictions of Muhammad or burning a bible would need more severe sentences, potentially using relevant religious practices.

I'm confused now, Feelingathomenow; surely it's called Abrahamic because Judaism, Islam and Christianity all came down through him - though admittedly by different routes?

Unless you meant he's only really interested in Islam, in which case the point still stands: if that's protected (and personally I don't believe it should be) why not all the other non Abrahamic religions?

They're going to have a job arresting all the people who keep shouting out JFCA! Including those who've stubbed their toes 🙈

Anti-blasphemy laws would need to apply to all religions in the interests of equality and diversity, including Jedism and Pastafarianism. I hope the police are given sufficient resources for all the investigations they will need to do.

And Mr Ali is a twat, that we can agree on.

It's really not, though. I mean, I could refer to anyone using 'Two Tier Keir' as 'Hate Speech Hilda' because they seem to think inciting people to set buildings with people inside is perfectly OK.

It's not even close to being the same thing as this lunacy from one religious person representing a majority Islamic constituency.

Yep, it’s stuck because it keeps being relevant.

Actually by referring to “Abrahamic prophets” Mr Ali was asking for it only in relation to Islam,