If men were left to organise Christmas themselves

I totally agree. I'm a complete Christmas fan and I don't think I do anywhere close to 23?

1. Send Christmas cards
2. Get advent calendars
3. Decorate the house
4. Buy presents
5. Organise panto tickets
6. Wrap presents
7. Buy food and drink
8. Cook Christmas Dinner

Maybe arrange to see family and friends as another one? If someone has a 23 item long list no wonder they're stressed about it!

What are the 23 Christmas tasks? Because, I don't think we do anywhere close to that?
The article didn't seem to list all 23?

I though you said it wasn't a men-bashing thread....
Plenty of men can organise Christmas celebrations. They just don't do it in the same way women want them to. So women then complain, decide they are better off doing it themselves or nag the men to do in a specific way.
That article you posted above about 23 tasks on a Christmas list... well, I don't know what they are. These are the tasks in my house: buy a tree (partner does unprompted), decorate (doing it together as a family), plan and shop for a meal Christmas meal (everyone suggest what they fancy and partner then drives us to Costco for a big shop which he, generally, pays for), cook the meal (whoever is at home the day before does all the prep and we then share out the dishes to prepare), buy and wrap gifts (we each do it for each other, kiddo and our respective families). That is it. I may or may not send some cards to people I know. Oh yes, my partner also takes us out to a Christmas market every year.
Now, I am sure plenty of women have lists as long as their arms and get stressed. I don't really see why this is men's fault. If my partner wanted some Christmas extravaganza with activities booked for every day of December, I wouldn't expect him to say how useless I am for not organising it and sticking to a simple family meal and a few fairy lights.
Oh yes, out tree also doesn't have a "theme". Shocker, I know...

In our house it would be fine. Christmas wouldn’t start until about a week before the 25th but there would be decorations, food and presents. It may not be as fancy with the extra little presents and decorations but the food would be fine - albeit with a surfeit of dried fruit!

We have a super low-key Christmas anyway so I doubt anything would be any different.

We would have wine, food, a great Xmas dinner that he would clear up perfectly. I do presents, crackers, ensure Xmas delivery slot is booked, decorations, school stuff, plan annual leave, xmas jumpers, advent calendars, wrapping, coordinating relatives.

He would do any of the above if prompted by me; but he would happily live without it. He thinks the kids are spoilt so would only get them a couple of things rather than a pile.

Some things I’ve stopped doing: cards, loads of decorations, doing family Christmas trips out.

If men were in charge of xmas in general there would be a lot less tat bought and things would get organised in the last two weeks before Christmas. Companies would have to change their adverts. This would please the people who complain that Christmas gets earlier and earlier each year.

A 90 degree angle!!!

ExH would have left it at 45 degrees.
If he did Christmas, there would be a lot of shouting all day, starting with loud complaints about the statenofnthebhouse and the necessity of cleaning it from top to bottom before anything else could be done. As dinner was prepared, there would be lots of plates or glasses broken through sheer carelessness, accompanied by lots of cursing and blaming whoever was standing within ten feet of him, food either overcooked or undercooked, and some vital ingredient left out of dessert (sugar, for instance). Presents would be the first thing he saw in whatever shops he went into on Christmas Eve. They would be very random and very cheap.

If DS was in charge -
Excellent, very practical gifts all round.
Terrific turkey and all the trimmings. Huge brunch earlier.
Christmas tree very well attached to the stand and at a 45 degree angle to the floor but ornaments few and far between.
Table setting - haphazard; many items forgotten.
Case of cold beer instead of wine.
He would pay me anything I asked to make the desserts.

Since when?

My exDH did organise Christmas, and it was far better than if it had been left to me. Not all men are hopeless you know.

He would do a great job -it would all just be last minute on Christmas Eve (which would freak me out) and I like Christmas to start evening 23th as I love Christmas Eve. Not fighting crowds out and about.

But my DH is a competent human who would ensure our DD still had a wonderful Christmas, if I couldn’t.

I came on to say exactly this. My husband goes all out at Christmas and I love it!

This thread is just more misandrist shite, seen often on MN.

Poster after poster after poster has told you it wouldn't look like that. Why don't you believe women?

What's made you so bitter?

Sometimes people can surprise you. I always thought my FIL would be useless at Christmas, but since my MIL has been ill, he's pretty much done it all himself. And while he isn't the greatest cook, the truth is he is no worse than she was!

Of course you could. Sitcom families do it all the time.

”You know what? We don’t need any trip to Colorado. We can have Christmas right here! Grandpa - go chop down a tree. Benny and Bobby - lights and decorations. Buffoon husband - break out your amusingly awful boysenberry wine. Clara, Sara, Kara - to the kitchen. We have work to do!”

”Gee, Mom - this is gonna be the best Christmas ever!”

”Woof woof!”

”….and Muffle thinks so too!”

<General laughter>

Out of interest what was wrong with your ex? 😂

I'd actually really like to try this as an experiment, just to see if you could actually pull off Christmas by starting everything on Xmas eve

Yes I've noticed this trend on here, and in general on MN. Many posters are saying my DH would do a fine job, and then some are saying aw all the poor men can't organise anything.
Of course the majority of men are perfectly capable of being competent around the house, just like they are at work. Some choose not to be.

It would be exclusively about eating food and Christmas movies. Loads of relatives would not receive anything. The kids would get everything they asked for however OTT. It would be a lot less work for me. In some ways I am tempted to try it, but I think I would miss my more planned version of Christmas.

What's that got to do with your OP?

Mine would be great!

I think the only thing that would stress me out is, it would be way more last minute than what I would do. But he’d do a fab job. Food and presents would be amazing. Social events would be organised (drinks/dinners with friends and family etc).

The only thing I don’t think we’d have is decorations- he is never bothered about them. I put them up at the weekend, that’s always soley my job as he could happily live without them. And there’s be no festive candles, which would upset me 🤣 but the things that actually matter, he’d be great at.

The food was shite the only year ex did some. I think I had managed to cook the meat the day before but with morning sickness I couldn't do the veg and potatoes again. He does reasonable presents though. No decorations.

It would be great. DH always gets a real tree and doesn’t get fussy like me when the kids put the baubles on all in clumps. And he’s a fab cook and host so that would be all fine. Not sure what presents he would buy though! Whatever he could get 2 days before I guess!