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To be annoyed about DD Secret Santa?

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Grealish · 27/11/2024 16:52

DD is 10 almost 11 and in 5th class. They do secret Santa every year, and they pulled the names last week. The budget is €5-10 and they don’t do cards or presents for teacher etc as teacher is included.

On Monday I got a text from one of the other mams saying that her DS got my DDs name for secret Santa, simply saying they won’t be buying a gift as they don’t believe in this kind of thing. I wasn’t too bothered at first, as it seemed like an easy fix- whoever had her DS could just swap and have my DD instead.

I was speaking to her teacher yesterday about a separate thing and just mentioned the secret Santa issue, she said it’d be too late to start all over again because some people have already bought gifts - but that it should be easy to just swap the two around. But today I got a message from the mam (she was lovely about it) who had the other child and said they’d already bought him a present. She told me what it was and said DD was welcome to it, but it is quite specific to the boy and I know she wouldn’t enjoy it.

I’m not really one to make a fuss about things like this, and part of me just wants to ignore it, she’ll get loads of lovely presents over the Christmas, a €5 gift won’t make or break her Christmas. On the other hand I hate to think of everyone being excited opening their presents and her not having anything to open/opening a gift meant for someone else.

Would it be too much to secretly buy her a gift and give it to the teacher to give out as part of the secret Santa?

OP posts:
Winter41 · 27/11/2024 20:41

Your idea is fine and will sort the problem. I think if the teacher or school has come up with this idea they ought to be sorting out any shortfall in gifts.

I am not teacher bashing, i am a teacher myself, but these things need to be thought through so no one is left out.

mjdle · 27/11/2024 20:40

Hate this sort of thing, any kid not included for whatever reason is going to feel left out, and puts pressure on parents at an already busy and expensive time of year. You buying her something is the best solution in this scenario, and if the other boy is the only not getting anything let him have the other gift that was already purchased.

AlertCat · 27/11/2024 20:38

EmotionalSupportPotato · 27/11/2024 16:59

Why on earth didn't the DS say they don't believe in secret santa

He probably wanted to take part!

I agree with pp- give the teacher a present for your dd that will seem to come from the boy whose mum isn’t giving a gift. After all, the children aren’t the decision-makers here- her stance is what seems unreasonable and even cruel (but also the school could communicate around this first to make sure everyone signed up).

RawBloomers · 27/11/2024 20:38

Secret Santa that you don’t have to specifically opt in to is really poor and one in primary school is bloody ridiculous and clearly prone to all the issues you get in adult ones and then some.

I would tell the teacher you’ll provide the Secret Santa gift for your child to receive and the gift that was going to go to the kid who opted out can go to whoever your DD was supposed to gift to - if they want it.

It makes things a bit messier, but that is a tradition that should not be helped to continue.

fairytailcat · 27/11/2024 20:37

I would do just that

But the school is an arsehole for allowing a secret santa for kids

Thevelvelletes · 27/11/2024 20:36

As if there isn't enough financial pressure on parents at this time of the year.

Canalboat · 27/11/2024 20:35

I’ve seen secret Santa go wrong too often and people get hurt by it, and that’s adults! I hate it, stupid idea.

LlynTegid · 27/11/2024 20:32

I think that you should suggest to the school they make this the last secret santa, and perhaps fundraise for a local charity instead in future years.

SkylarH · 27/11/2024 20:30

I'm angry on your behalf, OP!

If the mum accepts the gift, she needs to buy your DD a gift.

She really should have made her wishes known earlier i.e. as soon as the Secret Santa was announced.

Surely now she knows what's happened she can just buy your DD a gift and not participate in future years?

ChocolateAddictAlways · 27/11/2024 20:29

ItsMintUpNorth · 27/11/2024 20:04

Thought I was the only one to notice that comment can't believe it's not been deleted.

Thank you. The negative inference about a non-Christian background from that comment seems unpleasant. Disappointing to see that on MN.

SALaw · 27/11/2024 20:29

This is the school or whoever organises its fault - they should check who is participating and who isn't before issuing the names.

category12 · 27/11/2024 20:18

Secret santa at school is such a stupid idea.

Greyrocked · 27/11/2024 20:17

JimPanzee · 27/11/2024 18:41

I think the mum did something wrong when she said, after names were given out, that she simply ... won’t be buying a gift as they don’t believe in this kind of thing.
Funny enough she believed in it when her son's name was in the hat 🤔

It didn't sound like parents were given option or consulted. Perhaps I missed that?

Serene135 · 27/11/2024 20:16

I can completely understand why you are frustrated. I don’t understand why they would do secret santa in a school setting. If the mum has been happy to participate in secret santa previously then it is unkind of her to refuse to participate this year especially when she knows that someone is buying for her son. It’s not her son’s fault though that his mum refuses to participate this year so I think it would be best to just buy a little gift for your daughter and give it to the class teacher to give to her. I would then ignore the mum.

Coconutter24 · 27/11/2024 20:10

simply saying they won’t be buying a gift as they don’t believe in this kind of thing.

So why did the mum not tell the teacher to not put her son’s name in the hat if they don’t believe in that kind of thing? It’s very unfair to expect someone to buy her child a gift whilst not getting another child a gift

EmotionalSupportPotato · 27/11/2024 20:06

Precipice · 27/11/2024 17:37

Was the DS able to opt-out? We don't know. He's 10. It's being organised by the teacher. Would he feel able to say 'I don't want to participate in this'? Would this be accepted by the teacher without shaming and attempting to get him to 'agree'? Was it even a choice or did the teacher just put all the names in and inform the children of the rules?

Maybe DS would have liked to participate, but his parents aren't willing to, because they don't want to give money for this. Maybe DS never wanted to and couldn't opt out. In the end, it doesn't matter, because either way shows that such events shouldn't be organised on a whole class basis rather than a self-organisation opt-in basis.

Good point.

ItsMintUpNorth · 27/11/2024 20:04

kαλοκαλοκαιρι · 27/11/2024 18:16

who is ‘they?’

Thought I was the only one to notice that comment can't believe it's not been deleted.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 27/11/2024 19:54

Gosh I’d be so annoyed at a school that enforced this! I hate it when schools have such expectations of parents (mums, let’s face it). And it means so many kids get left out too

In your shoes, yes I’d do exactly that, but her a gift yourself. I’ve been an the situation like PP where I’ve sat like an absolute lemon without a secret Santa gift despite taking part in the exchange myself and I felt like a total idiot - and I was a fully grown adult! I’d hate a 10yo to feel that way.

Tink3rbell30 · 27/11/2024 19:50

Yea definitely. Surely this miserable mother isn't going to let her DS take a gift?

cantarguewithfools · 27/11/2024 19:48

The DS shouldn’t be allowed to pull out. He doesn’t get your DD a gift yet he gets one? He is effectively excluding someone else. Your DD will probably feel left out and maybe even bullied with no gift. I would be texting the boys mother back and telling her she’s a cheapskate!

Anotherillnes · 27/11/2024 19:38

ThomasPatrickKeatingsDegas · 27/11/2024 19:29

Why should the teacher have to do this? You do realise teachers are constantly buying things to supplement the crap budgets??

Whoever decides to do SS without opt out, whether the class teacher or more senior. Otherwise no all the adults have agreed.

isthesolution · 27/11/2024 19:38

I'd buy the gift. But I'd also suggest that in future years the school check who wants to take part before handing names out or children will be disappointed!

Betterthanitseems · 27/11/2024 19:30

I was left out before and I did buy a prese t and it was shite. I hate doing it now encase that happens again!

100% buy for your daughter

ThomasPatrickKeatingsDegas · 27/11/2024 19:29

Superworm24 · 27/11/2024 17:15

It's rubbish. If I were the teacher I would have forseen this and got a few gifts to compensate for those who haven't brought in a gift.

Why should the teacher have to do this? You do realise teachers are constantly buying things to supplement the crap budgets??

Lemonadeand · 27/11/2024 19:25

That’s annoying. People should be able to opt out but before they do the ballot thing!

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