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Is this Coercion? Going to the police to report? Please give me you opinions / help?

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ThatFairDeer · 27/11/2024 10:48

Hi everyone - I've gone anonymous for this as I don't want to be identified!

I'm currently divorcing after 2 decades. I've told exH to sleep elsewhere and he refuses the majority of the time. At night I go to bed really early as he's likely to wake me up talking and complaining mostly about the divorce. Last night again he woke me up - wanting me to take care of his "needs" - on and on and on he went - even said if I'd put out for 30 seconds it would have been over and done with!! He blames my hormones for this as I have told him over and over again I don't want him to touch me but he just ignores this and continues to touch me or rub me - or get into bed beside me and cuddle up to me - which totally gives me the ick and rage and fear all at the same time. I told him last night what he was doing was coercion and that it needed to stop - he said that's all he has left to "get some"!

Am I wrong to think he shouldn't be insisting on wanting to have sex or sexual activities with his ex W who is divorcing him? That trying to talk me round or pestering me to give in to his desires / needs is wrong and that if I did give in that it's not really consenting as I'm not a willing participant?!

Has anyone any experience of going to the police with this type of behaviour - what should I do - should I go to the police?

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Noseybookworm · 27/11/2024 12:09

He is sexually assaulting you. Put a lock on the door and if he bangs on it and tries to get in, tell him you're calling the police. And do it. I would suggest calling Women's Aid for advice too, they can support you to take action. Please don't put up with this one more day OP 💐

DevilledEgg · 27/11/2024 12:06

Phone the police now. Don't wait. Don't let him force you out of your home. Also speak to women's aid because I'd bet my house he's been abusing you in other ways for years and he's ramping up because your leaving. You need this all on record because he will only get more dangerous.

ItGhoul · 27/11/2024 12:05

It's coercive and abusive. Apart from the unwanted sexual contact, he's depriving you of sleep and privacy. He's doing it to prove he can control you and deny you agency. And he's also in denial about the fact that you're leaving him. He can't bear the fact that you've got autonomy.

It's quite a common thing for abusive partners to do during a separation. My friend's ex-husband did exactly the same thing during the time they were separated but living in the same house.

I'm really, really sorry that you're having to go through this.

Brefugee · 27/11/2024 11:59

I have always promised that I wouldn't go to the police - I don't want my kids to hear that their mum reported their dad to the police

No, OP. He is sexually assaulting you. And you are setting a very poor example for your children

Ginkypig · 27/11/2024 11:55

You are I. A very dangerous situation, he has shown you that he does not care anymore your boundaries or your wants.

so far he is “only” assaulting you and verbally trying to erode your resolve so you relent and he can get his way
but
this could so very easily go into full rape, what are you going to do if he suddenly one night just flips you over and gets on top of you. The truth is nothing because you won’t be able to.

i am not trying to scare you @ThatFairDeer i am trying to show you the real reality you are in. ONLY YOU can make yourself safe and to do that you have to not be in an environment where he has access to you, he will not stop because he has shown that nothing you say makes a difference to his thinking.

i don’t want to hijack your thread but maybe my experience might help you feel less alone.
but suffice to say iv been in very similar circumstances to you many years ago when I was a young woman, an already bad/abusive relationship that was coming to and end but contact wasn’t stopped and him regularly in the home at night. finding him in the bed when he had been on the couch when we went to sleep, trying it on etc which eventually led to me waking with him on top of me during the act on more than one occasion. To this day I assume from his reaction at the time he still doesn’t think he did anything wrong.
it only stopped because I told a professional who was horrified (I was more confused about how to get him to stop coming round) and insisted I reported to the police. And literally got me to pack the last of his things and change the locks. I felt she was blowing thing out of proportion but did as she told me

in the end I didn’t pursue a case but it was enough to finally break things and get the locks changedetc.

its only years on that I understand how bad this was, i minimised it to cope while in it.

you deserve better than this. Your children deserve better than this.
please get back in touch with women’s aid and be truly honest with them about what is going on using the facts rather than your interpretation of it as that will for you to cope be minimised.
as for protecting the children from seeing their father arrested, think more of it as you are showing your children that they deserve a minimum treatment in a relationship one day when they grow up and if that doesn’t happen they are entitled to seek help and not stay in that.

CowGirl19 · 27/11/2024 11:45

I think your best option here - as you are divorcing anyway is to move out to the rental place asap. Take yourself and the kids away from this situation - permanently.
Yes it's worth reporting to the police. Unfortunately abuse like this gets worse at the point of separation/divorce and the fat he's already ignoring your "No's" indicates his behaviour is escalating so there is potential he may become violent.

Don't feel bad upsetting the kids by moving. You are protecting them by getting out.

ProfessorInkling · 27/11/2024 11:38

How old are your kids OP?

Onlycoffee · 27/11/2024 11:36

Do you have a DD op? Wouldn't you advise her to go to the police? If you have a ds how would you feel if he was behaving like your soon to be xdh? If you would be horrified (and you should be!) can you see how you shouldn't have to put up with this.

Do you have a friend or any family that you could stay with until you find somewhere else to live, or a women's aid shelter?

ProfessorInkling · 27/11/2024 11:35

ThatFairDeer · 27/11/2024 11:24

I have spoken with Women's Aid a long time ago and not regarding these specific details and they wanted me to go to the police - I have always promised that I wouldn't go to the police - I don't want my kids to hear that their mum reported their dad to the police or had to watch as the police arrested their dad! I don't want to add to any trauma that's already been caused .... if that makes any sense? But it's gotten to the point where I just can't take any more - the only thing he appears to think about is sex and that he's not getting any and me divorcing him and how he's going to cope "without me"! I obvs must be having sex with someone else if I won't "put out" with him!! FFS!!

Yes, I can totally understand your reluctance to go to the police.

I'm not telling you to do that, but understand why WA encouraged it.

He is committing an offence, and you want to protect the kids from that. But these are his actions, not yours.

Reading your posts I'm concerned for your safety. Is there a room you can lock? Keep your phone on you, and fully charged.

Daleksatemyshed · 27/11/2024 11:33

Cross posted with your update Op. He's using the DC as a shield, he knows you don't want to upset them so he feels he can get away with all this. If you won't go to the police then move out but he won't change Op, he'll still tell your DC it's all your fault

Sia8899 · 27/11/2024 11:31

Please move out as soon as possible. I understand not wanting to upset the kids but this is absolutely awful, this man is abusive and disgusting. If you can’t even put a locked door between you then you absolutely have to leave. It sounds like you are all walking on eggshells so it will be better for the kids to not be in a stressful environment. Report him for sexual assault.

Summerhillsquare · 27/11/2024 11:30

ThatFairDeer · 27/11/2024 11:06

Well last night I moved and tried to sleep on the sofa

He says he's going to sleep elsewhere but then doesn't and comes into my room and my bed when I'm asleep.

If there is somewhere else he can sleep then get yourself a small rubber door wedge and keep it about your person when not in use. Lots of women have one for travelling, hotel rooms etc for security.

And yes, report him.

Hoppinggreen · 27/11/2024 11:27

Who did you promise?
Any fallout from this will NOT be your fault, any upset for your DC will be caused by his actions not yours.
I know its very easy for me to say as I am not the one living it but please report it. It might make him stop and it also may help your divorce (horrible to say but true)

Daleksatemyshed · 27/11/2024 11:26

No consent = sexual assault, if he touches you when you're asleep there's no consent. Go to the police Op, tell them everything. Your Ex sounds a slimebag, don't feel you have to keep him happy for the sake of your DC, you and the DC would be much happier without him

ThatFairDeer · 27/11/2024 11:24

ProfessorInkling · 27/11/2024 11:18

This is sexual assault.

Can you leave sooner rather than later, temporarily, with the kids?

What you describe is really quite chilling.

Have you spoken to anyone from a domestic violence charity?

I have spoken with Women's Aid a long time ago and not regarding these specific details and they wanted me to go to the police - I have always promised that I wouldn't go to the police - I don't want my kids to hear that their mum reported their dad to the police or had to watch as the police arrested their dad! I don't want to add to any trauma that's already been caused .... if that makes any sense? But it's gotten to the point where I just can't take any more - the only thing he appears to think about is sex and that he's not getting any and me divorcing him and how he's going to cope "without me"! I obvs must be having sex with someone else if I won't "put out" with him!! FFS!!

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Hoppinggreen · 27/11/2024 11:23

Mischance · 27/11/2024 11:21

Why don't you sleep in another room, or on the sofa?

Why doesn't he stop Sexually assaulting her?

OP DOES sleep in another room I believe but he comes in - Maybe you also blame her for not locking herself in?
FFS

Mischance · 27/11/2024 11:21

Why don't you sleep in another room, or on the sofa?

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 27/11/2024 11:19

Get a single mattress and put it in one of the kids rooms, tell them he's started snorting so you need to sleep somewhere else. Kept me safe from my XH pushing for sex after he told me he didn't love me anymore and when he knew I didn't want it. You deserve to sleep safely in your own home. .

ProfessorInkling · 27/11/2024 11:18

This is sexual assault.

Can you leave sooner rather than later, temporarily, with the kids?

What you describe is really quite chilling.

Have you spoken to anyone from a domestic violence charity?

Hoppinggreen · 27/11/2024 11:14

Its sexual assault and you can report it to the police even without recordings etc. At the very least it might make him stop

ThatFairDeer · 27/11/2024 11:13

Even though he's never raised a finger to hurt us I don't trust him and he scares me sometimes - we live on tenderhooks with the feeling that he's about to explode at any time - I have threatened to go to the police before and he just laughed at me!

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ThatFairDeer · 27/11/2024 11:12

I'm torn between going today and reporting him to the police and they hopefully arresting him and him getting out on bail would mean he's not allowing to come back to my house - or waiting until I get myself and the kids moved out of the house and then reporting him?! Any advice?

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ThatFairDeer · 27/11/2024 11:10

I've told him to service himself - I've told him to go get himself a new partner / girlfriend / whatever - I've offered to pay for someone to service him - but no - apparently "it" only works for me!! Yeah right! He has admitted that he thinks if he stays on in the house and hangs on long enough that I will change my mind!

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AutumnFroglets · 27/11/2024 11:08

I've told exH to sleep elsewhere and he refuses the majority of the time.

If there is a spare bedroom then maybe you need to move into it, with your clothes etc, to emphasis a clear break. Some people (usually men) assume that your words mean nothing and they need to see action for it to sink in. Otherwise move his clothes etc into spare room and put a lock/bolt on your originally shared bedroom.

If he tries again tell him to stop sexually assaulting you otherwise you will go to the police, unless of course, you think he will react badly to that phrase in which case don't. Stay safe

rileyy · 27/11/2024 11:08

Onlycoffee · 27/11/2024 11:08

Even if you were not divorcing him, even in a loving relationship this would be sexual assault.
Even if you were both completely in love and you initiated sex then changed your mind and said you didn't want to go ahead and just wanted to sleep, for him to continue and ignore you is sexual assault.

Does he not believe that you are actually going to divorce him, why is he sleeping in the same bed as you let alone pestering you?

Tell him to sleep on the sofa and service himself with his grabbby hands.

THIS.