Caused a scene in a cafe today. Now wondering if we were unreasonable

You’ve clearly got a massive issue with Welsh people and their language judging by how you keep incessantly commenting. The Welsh posters on this thread are posting to defend our culture, country and language from the xenophobic comments you can see throughout the thread. It’s fine if you don’t want to visit our country. But there’s no need to continue to post constantly with your negatively and rudeness about it. Your posts have been deleted due to their nature and yet you continue to post.

I don’t believe that hateful is not the anglesey and people you have known. Just as you don’t believe me.

A lot of the posts on here confirm why people don’t like visiting wales.

I dont believe you. I think you’re a liar.

My friends mom is Welsh and speaks it fluently (my mom is also Welsh but this hasn’t happened to her so far. We’ve never had anything but positive experiences in Wales).

Friends mom was in a shop in Wales years ago with some of her kids and the kids (who were born in Birmingham and speak English). There were 2 women in the queue who were slagging her kids off, in Welsh.

She turned round to them and told them off in Welsh. The women looked gobsmacked and super embarrassed.

So no YANBU for challenging them about how you were treated.

But you absolutely should have turned round told her what you thought of her in WELSH 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

I read this last night and felt the OP was on a wind up tbh. I am shocked to see it still standing. Some of the comments simply confirm why the English are seen as arrogant and are universally disliked and mocked.

I am not happy to have said that but the ease with which some posters have poured their scorn for Wales and the Welsh is deeply unpleasant.

I'll say this too, I live in a EU country and work takes me all over. The fondness for The Irish, Scots and Welsh is almost always categorical, in the same measure as a general disdain for the English. Do I like it? No. But I understand it, this whole thread reminds me why.

Thank you @WedieieniaifaguarYnysMon and @foxandbee .

@Antsy123 perhaps we should leave any further interactions with each other, before one of us gets put on the naughty step. Evidently there are strong feelings on both sides, but ‘hateful’ is not the Anglesey and people I have known my whole life.

You are 100% wrong there. I reported that post as it was a nasty, personal attack. It was deleted for breaking talk guidelines.

You can check with MNHQ.

I have reported this post as well.

You ought to care about how people dislike such unpleasant "opinions".

I have reported this post.

I have seen nothing in LostTheMarble's posts that justify your vile words.

@Nextdoor55 could you tell me where you are in West Wales? Not your exact location just a rough idea?

Never reported your post, you’re more than welcome to ask them 🤷‍♀️. Unless offensive beyond reason, I don’t report posts as even the most robust discussion should be available to see as far as I’m concerned. Your individual posts are nothing compared to most of this thread’s foulness towards the Welsh and our language.

And calling someone a racist may be your opinion, but you are using that word without any bases. By calling people racist with no bases, it makes the word pointless. You may as well call me ableist and homophobic whilst you’re at it for all the sense it makes in the context of this thread. I’ve also not been xenophobic either, not taking what you say at full fave value is not xenophobic.

And no they didn’t delete one of my posts because I’m xenophobic. They did it because I called you out for what you are and you didn’t like being called out for what you are and you asked them to delete it.

Again calling people racist when talking about the English. We’re all British, you’re not a separate race and calling people racist for any slight indiscretion you feel has been made against your Englishness doesn’t paint you in a good light at all.

We learn French or German or Spanish in school. I can get by in France and order meals etc even with my appalling accent. But we don't learn Welsh, Urdu, Hindu or any of the other languages spoken in this country including, most importantly I think, sign language. Perhaps we ought to learn how to respond when greeted in those languages as a minimum or something to acknowledge a person when they speak to us. From what I understood from my DC PHSL or whatever they are called are not that informative a lesson, perhaps once a month learn something in a different language😀

I still disbelieve you. Not because you’re English but because you refuse to give any context. They also deleted one of your posts so you must be xenophobic as well. Considering MNHQ has let this
thread run, one that’s not even trying to hide the distain of Welsh people and language, evidently they have no problem with xenophobia in general.

@Nextdoor55 , so you walk into a shop in Wales and the staff are chatting to each other or serving customers in English, then as soon as you say 'Hello' they deduce that you didn't say 'Helo' and start speaking Welsh to make you feel unwelcome?

What part of West Wales is this? My roots are in the Carmarthenshire/Ceredigion border and whenever I go back it’s increasingly rare to find any Welsh speakers working in shops or pubs. I speak Welsh and get “sorry, don’t speak Welsh”.

Glad to hear you’re not defending it and I’m sorry to hear you had anti-Welsh insults directed at you in England. There’s no excuse for xenophobia against any nationality.

I am not defending that. I had to endure plenty of anti-Welsh insults during my decades living and working in England. Much of it in the workplace.

No directly to me,

I mean as soon as you say "hello" they immediately start talking in Welsh & continue even if you've bought something. Fair enough but it's like making a point, "you're in Wales" not "you're in a shop", it feels like being Welsh oversteps everything.
It does happen I have a friend who is a police officer & went into a bakery in plain clothes, started slating him in Welsh, he of course understood everything. They got a proper bollicking as you can imagine.
It does happen more frequently than you think. Sad really that anyone feels the need to do this ever.

Rolling your eyes doesn’t mean it’s not true. I’ve been called a liar on this thread for stating my experiences of anti-English comments directed at me as an English child growing up in wales. Fortunately mumsnet deleted the post as it was xenophobic towards English people.