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To be annoyed at my neighbour?

279 replies

PeachHog · 26/11/2024 11:48

Moved into a lovely semi detached, private rented, 18 months ago. Have 2 kids 7 and 10, it's fair to say that we've not been the quietest family. Like many we argue most days, kids play loudly, and we probably haven't been as aware of noise as we should have been. There's a single mother next door with a teenage daughter. DH put a dartboard up on adjoing wall a few weeks ago, however he didnt realise it would be heard by next door until we could hear her turn the music up whenever he was throwing darts.

However, this is what annoyed me - instead of coming to talk to us, she's went directly to the landlord to complain about the unreasonable level of noise and the dartboard! Landlord's now annoyed we didn't agree this with him first (we should have) and now im terrified we're at risk of losing our home. Aibu to think that even though we were in the wrong, she should have come to us first instead of going directly to the landlord? I had no idea she even knew him.

OP posts:
fatphalange · 26/11/2024 17:45

Too volatile a household to risk approaching any of you probably.
That said, if you take on board the complaint and stop throwing darts at your walls then there's no reason to think you'll be scrutinised going forwards unless you're being anti social again.

LBFseBrom · 26/11/2024 17:42

In an ideal world, yes, one should be straightforward. However she was probably nervous of you, she doesn't know you, you are just chavvy new neighbours to her who play darts in the garden and have noisy kids. I'm not sure I would have wanted to confront you. There have been endless threads on Mumsnet in which people have said they are scared and/or intimidated by neighbours. Don't forget, she is a single person with a daughter, she doesn't have a partner to back her up.

I doubt you'll lose your home as long as you have assured the landlord you'll keep quieter from now on, and won't knock any more holes without permission, as long as you pay your rent.

Why not apologise to your neighbour, invite her round for a meal or something so she can be reassured you are not as bad as you sound.

stichguru · 26/11/2024 17:39

When you say " Like many we argue most days, kids play loudly, and we probably haven't been as aware of noise as we should have been", honestly do you mean that she's never talked to you about the noise before, and it's never crossed your mind that you maybe make a bit too much noise? Or do you mean she has asked you to be quieter, but in your mind your kids are just being kids and the noise isn't that bad so you've just ignored her?

If you mean the first one, then you VERY MUCH need to be aware of how much noise you are making, and tone it down, and obviously you need to place the dart board elsewhere, but yes she should have come to you before seeing the landlord. If you mean the second one, then you are being deliberately disrespectful of her, and going to the landlord was her only option. If you do get evicted - well maybe it will teach you to be less selfish.

Cerealkiller4U · 26/11/2024 17:30

PeachHog · 26/11/2024 17:03

Ok, there's been a lot to get through, and a lot to reflect on. Yes I've been in the wrong, hold my hands up. And the dartboard was DH idea/insistence that it would be fine. I don't get much of a say once he's something in his head! I guess my aibu was thinking they could have just come and mentioned ehat a disturbance we were being, but yes after hearing arguments regularly then I suppose I'd be hesitant also. I'm just worried now that our every action is going to be scrutinised while ill of.course work on calming the house and noise down. Dh and I don't get on, he doesn't do much at all with/for the children, but that's another story. I definitely have high stress levels but Will work towards this not impacting on NDN. Thank you all, appreciate your candour.

I mean yeah. Everything will be heightened now. She could have spoken with you but she didn’t. 🤷‍♀️

comedycentral · 26/11/2024 17:29

I'm trying to remember the last argument in this house. It's not normal to argue so frequently. The dart board on the wall in a rented house sounds pretty rough and noisy, to be fair. I wouldn't contact you directly either; I would potentially be afraid of an argument. It sounds like they are dealing with it as peacefully as they can.

I'd be tempted to send a card through the door, apologising for any noise; no hard feelings.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 26/11/2024 17:23

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/11/2024 11:52

You absolutely should have asked permission to put a dartboard up in someone’s property.

(Do many argue most days? We don’t 🤷‍♀️)

Nor do we.

A dart board and constant “duff duff duff” would be extremely annoying. It’s just inconsiderate to nail one to an adjoining wall.

However if you’re tenants who pay on time and look after the house then he’d be a fool to kick you out (and would find it difficult anyway) over a dispute which can be easily overcome.

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 26/11/2024 17:23

I love that you’re shouting, arguing, playing darts etc and you’re worried you might lose your home, yet it’s all somehow your neighbours fault 🤣.

Be a less shit neighbour, perhaps?

GoadyMcBigot · 26/11/2024 17:19

Great response OP. You’ve recognised that maybe your neighbour was not being unreasonable.

but I hope your DH isn’t too much of an issue. Arguing every day is not normal at all. Hope things improve - maybe you’ll have a friend in your neighbour??

thicklysettled · 26/11/2024 17:11

Good luck coming up with some resolution, OP. Sounds like the noise complaint is the least of it. Not easy to respond to a MN pile-on, taking it on the chin.

SabreIsMyFave · 26/11/2024 17:11

NavyOrca · 26/11/2024 11:54

You sound like awful neighbours :(

This. ^ No emotional intelligence or common sense at all. Completely clueless. I feel sorry for the OP's neighbour! And as many posters have said, 'arguing every day' is not normal at all.

That said, I would not wish for you to lose your home @PeachHog

You need to sort out your attitude - and your family though. If you DON'T, then you will lose your tenancy! Apologise to your neighbour, and your landlord, and start behaving better!

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Changingagang · 26/11/2024 17:09

Ment to say noisy

Changingagang · 26/11/2024 17:08

I think this is the single mum neighbour writing as if she’s the nosey one with a dart board

PeachHog · 26/11/2024 17:03

Ok, there's been a lot to get through, and a lot to reflect on. Yes I've been in the wrong, hold my hands up. And the dartboard was DH idea/insistence that it would be fine. I don't get much of a say once he's something in his head! I guess my aibu was thinking they could have just come and mentioned ehat a disturbance we were being, but yes after hearing arguments regularly then I suppose I'd be hesitant also. I'm just worried now that our every action is going to be scrutinised while ill of.course work on calming the house and noise down. Dh and I don't get on, he doesn't do much at all with/for the children, but that's another story. I definitely have high stress levels but Will work towards this not impacting on NDN. Thank you all, appreciate your candour.

OP posts:
KerryBlues · 26/11/2024 17:00

NavyOrca · 26/11/2024 11:52

If you “argue most days” (which is not remotely normal, btw), I would not want to approach you directly to speak to you either..!

This!

Fairislesweater · 26/11/2024 17:00

Semi detached house and you chose to install a dartboard on a party wall. And it didn’t occur to you that literal thuds into the wall would be audible next door? Or to ask the landlord who is likely to sustain damage to his property as a result? Honestly some people have no clue.

Alphaalga · 26/11/2024 17:00

SoupDragon · 26/11/2024 16:56

Bully for you. Many wouldn't.

Edited

You too. Many would.

user6476897654 · 26/11/2024 17:00

If you’re a screaming shouting arguing family, I’m not surprised they went straight to the landlord. They were probably nervous of you!
Go round and apologise would be my advice.

And FYI - we have a couple of rentals, the neighbours all have our contact details for situations such as this.

SoupDragon · 26/11/2024 16:56

Alphaalga · 26/11/2024 16:50

I would.

Bully for you. Many wouldn't.

Alphaalga · 26/11/2024 16:50

SoupDragon · 26/11/2024 15:47

I wouldn't have spoken to a noisy argumentative family.

I would.

Trumptonagain · 26/11/2024 16:49

however he didn’t realise it would be heard by next door until we could hear her turn the music up whenever he was throwing darts.

You clearly aren't aware of any noise you make so I'd imagine your neighbour didn't want to stand at your doorstep wasting her time trying to explain about noise to two grow adults that think arguing is the norm.

You didn't think anything of it, that the two could be connected, especially as by the sound of it it wasn't a regular occurance from them and only happened so they could try to block out the thudding of your making.

You just continued to use the dartboard whenever it suited you.

Ohnobackagain · 26/11/2024 16:42

@PeachHog - as @MissUltraViolet said:

”Be more respectful, apologise to her. Make sure she knows that it is absolutely fine for her to approach you in the future with any other problems.’

hopefully you can then be on good terms and sort this kind of thing out easily

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 26/11/2024 16:35

EffortlesslyInelegant · 26/11/2024 16:27

Grin Of course it's a wind up. Plop and run after dropping an OP with so many froth triggers. What else could it be?

But why??
lonely?
attention seeking?
just enjoys being a nuisance?

readingismycardio · 26/11/2024 16:30

I'm extremely happy you're not my neighbor, OP

EffortlesslyInelegant · 26/11/2024 16:27

Grin Of course it's a wind up. Plop and run after dropping an OP with so many froth triggers. What else could it be?

MounjaroUser · 26/11/2024 16:26

It's either a reverse or a wind up. Nobody could be that stupid.