Page 10 | What do you think of Australia's vaccine policy?

rampy · 2024-11-25T23:19:56+00:00

I'm born and bred Aussie. We live in WA and kids here can't go to kindy or school without having been vaccinated. I have a couple of British friends who were so offended that they needed to vaccinate their kids they home schooled because 'well we'll just go back to the uk' but they've stayed and now need to get their kids vaccinated because they have no friends their own age and can't go to school without vaccines. You can't apply for child related benefits if your kid isn't vaccinated either here. Having seen NZ have just declared a whooping cough epidemic Id say I agree with WA stance I'm honest!

OneBlackHeart · 26/11/2024 23:53

I think people should be allowed the choice. I just wish they would make better choices. My kids are vaccinated and my dd caught measles. Apparently she would have been a hell of a lot worse had she not been vaccinated. She was seriously fucking ill and it was scary. She only caught it because the herd immunity has been diminished by anti vaxers. But I do really believe the state has no right to control its citizens this way 🤷‍♀️

CheesecakeTheCapybara · 26/11/2024 23:50

@Annabmt There are natural cures for smallpox and polio? I hadn't heard of this!

@PumpkinsAndCoconuts I mentioned those two faiths because those at faiths with laws about what is clean it unclean to put in the body. I'm not sure whether they might have cells from pigs or monkeys in or something that wouldn't be Kosher (or Halal).

PyongyangKipperbang · 26/11/2024 23:42

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:32

Not all of the science is bad, but especially as an immunocompromised person, the extra stuff, such as aborted fetal tissue, that they put in the vaccines is extremely harmful

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Now I can understand why people wouldnt want embryo tissue injected into themselves. But you havent explained why that is harmful.

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and you havent provided any proof that tissue from terminated pregnancies are actually used. My understanding is that some vaccine tissue can be grown using cells from terminations, not, as you claim, tissue from "aborted fetuses"

CheesecakeTheCapybara · 26/11/2024 23:41

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:13

I don't know. we don't want to so we filled out forms, our religion doesn't necessarily say no vaccines, but we do believe to follow what God is telling you and we feel it would be wrong for us to get vaccinations

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Ah, that may have been for the Covid vaccine which was tested using cells from an aborted child. I can understand your reservations there.

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:36

crumblingschools · 26/11/2024 00:28

@Annabmt won’t you have to have some vaccinations to be a nurse

My religious exemptions covers that

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:35

sanityisamyth · 26/11/2024 00:34

@Annabmt I have a pharmacy degree. Which ones are extremely harmful?

The ones that have all the extra added-in stuff. the only thing that you need in a vaccine is the weakened tissue.

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:34

potatocakesinprogress · 26/11/2024 00:37

Of course you live in America, you're happy to live in a country where it's normal not to have clean drinking water, kids have gun drills at school, and half the population voted for a convicted felon as leader. The rest of us wouldn't dream of living like that.

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Whatever you are hearing about america is falsehoods. Make sure you double check that your information isn't biased

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:32

RogueFemale · 26/11/2024 00:38

How does religion make you exempt from science?

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Not all of the science is bad, but especially as an immunocompromised person, the extra stuff, such as aborted fetal tissue, that they put in the vaccines is extremely harmful

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:30

TheShellBeach · 26/11/2024 00:43

I am pro-vaccine if they didn't add so many extra things into the vaccine, but they do

Such as what @Annabmt?

Aborted fetal tissue

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:29

Ladyzfactor · 26/11/2024 05:58

I'm am not bashing nursing at all, but you are not a doctor, you are not a virologist or a scientist. Your not even a nurse yet so I really don't think you should be giving advice about life saving treatments. Go to any graveyard and walk into the older sections before vaccination was a thing and count the number of children graves. Sometimes entire families were wiped out. Then go to the modern graves, very few children. I can't possibly wonder why 🤔

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I'm not totally against vaccination in and of itself. Giving the dead or weakened version of the illness is a great idea, but all of the other things that they add into it can be harmful.

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:28

SureLight · 26/11/2024 06:34

“Extra things”?

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Such as aborted baby tissue

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:27

NineDaysQueen · 26/11/2024 06:38

Oh please
You know this is ridiculous - nothing is added to vaccines
And being excluded for 'religious reasons'. That 'religion' should be outlawed.
It is happy to see children and adults suffer? Some fuck8ng religion that is

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Ok, I will be praying that your family does not suffer from any affects that the vaccine might have

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:26

godmum56 · 26/11/2024 09:27

like what?

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Like aborted baby tissue

eightIsNewNine · 26/11/2024 23:22

Roomgigi · 26/11/2024 21:39

I think it's a flawed policy
The kids with woo/abusive/mad parents end up homeschooled and out of sight
If your public health messaging can't convince the majority of parents to vaccinate then it's your issue not theirs

Homeschooling in different countries have different rules and doesn't automatically lead to loosing them from sight.

It isn't about punishing the noncompliant families, it is about protecting those who participate in making school environment safe(r) from unnecessary risk of spreading serious illnesses.

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:20

Pilot91 · 26/11/2024 14:16

@Annabmt Still waiting to hear which "things" in vaccines you have a problem with?

There are literally vaccines that use aborted baby parts in them. I am not ok with that.

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:17

Narkacist · 26/11/2024 15:11

Why would you get a degree to work in evidence-based medicine if you don't believe in it? Why not learn reiki or something instead?

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I do believe in evidence-based medicine. Natural and western medicine are both evidence-based, and I intend to find what may not be evidence-based or even faked and to avoid that. Such as additives in vaccinations.

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:16

AnotherChildFreeCatLady · 26/11/2024 16:15

Are you also pro polio and smallpox?

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Polio and smallpox aren't that prevalent anymore, and there are ways to cure them naturally so if you aren't at high risk what's the point?

annanbmt · 26/11/2024 23:13

Krumblina · 26/11/2024 21:33

Which religion is anti vax?

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I don't know. we don't want to so we filled out forms, our religion doesn't necessarily say no vaccines, but we do believe to follow what God is telling you and we feel it would be wrong for us to get vaccinations

Walkaround · 26/11/2024 22:21

Roomgigi · 26/11/2024 21:39

I think it's a flawed policy
The kids with woo/abusive/mad parents end up homeschooled and out of sight
If your public health messaging can't convince the majority of parents to vaccinate then it's your issue not theirs

The same applies with regard to sex education, teaching children about other religions, requiring regular school attendance, teaching about the origins of the universe, teaching the science behind climate change - all things that some parents object to and will choose to home educate their children in order to avoid. There comes a point you have to draw the line.

Gogogo12345 · 26/11/2024 22:09

CharlotteRumpling · 26/11/2024 17:13

77 k in India. That are recorded. I did say other countries too. There will be many more that are not recorded. We needn't quibble over numbers because it's way too many for a preventable cancer.Compared to what: 2 deaths from the vaccine?
And I will eat my hat if women in the UK who dont get the vax are being screened instead as a preventive.

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Don't forget for many. If us women the HPV vax wasn't available. My DD1 didn't get it and she's 33. Obviously I didn't either. DD2 did have it as available by then. DS is 21 and he just missed out on it by about a year as for some reason they didn't vaccinate the boys originally

Redleavescatfiend · 26/11/2024 22:09

Berlinlover · 26/11/2024 17:31

After the insane way Australia behaved during Covid I can’t take them seriously as a country anymore and certainly will never set foot there again.

Insane? How so?

crumblingschools · 26/11/2024 21:51

@Roomgigi looks like there is more supervision of homeschooling in Australia so children don’t get hidden

Roomgigi · 26/11/2024 21:39

I think it's a flawed policy
The kids with woo/abusive/mad parents end up homeschooled and out of sight
If your public health messaging can't convince the majority of parents to vaccinate then it's your issue not theirs

Krumblina · 26/11/2024 21:33

Annabmt · 25/11/2024 23:23

I am antivaccination if I can be, and we live in America. I would say that you should see if your friends can fill out an exemption form if possible. We have a religious exemption form so that we do not have to get vaccinations. I am pro-vaccine if they didn't add so many extra things into the vaccine, but they do.

Which religion is anti vax?

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 26/11/2024 20:48

CheesecakeTheCapybara · 26/11/2024 20:47

Yes I think if you're Jewish or Muslim then exemption might be possible.

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Why specifically those two?