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AIBU for not wanting to pay rent?

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freebirdblue · 25/11/2024 22:59

I currently live with my older sister and her family and contribute £100 weekly toward rent and bills. I pay for takeaways, contribute toward their date nights, and ubers (apparently they can’t work the app). I relocated and she offered me her spare bedroom for a year so I can save and have more money to put towards a nice one bedroom apartment. On top of that, I also take care of my nephews and walk the dogs daily.

However, my BIL’s parents asked me to house and dog sit while they’re away travelling for two months. I’m a 10 minute drive away but already my expenses have gone up as I’m now doing a food shop (yes, I was spoilt that they included me in their evening dinners) and I have to bring the dogs to the vet (out of my own pocket to later be reimbursed when they return, which is another awkward issue).

However, my sister still wants me to still contribute while I’m not there, she insisted not the full £100 but wasn’t overly pleased when I suggested £50 either. The thing is, I don’t think it’s fair I have to contribute because if I wasn’t in the spare bedroom, no one else would be, and one of her friends is coming and going to stay while I’m away (recently single). I’m not calling to their house for dinner either, but I am still helping out with my nephews and working from home (which I hate doing as I only have my laptop and no other monitors) on certain days for them.

My mum is trying to reason I’d still pay a landlord if I was on holiday, but I’m house sitting for my BIL’s family as a favor (for free) and it’s not exactly a holiday either! However, my friends are arguing it is unreasonable and strange of my sister to expect me to pay. Is it? I’m so conflicted and don’t want to seem ungrateful but I also have to admit I am annoyed.

I made the mistake of telling her my salary and now she holds that against me and tells almost everyone we know I earn more than her and her partner combined. For starters, she works part time and he is an apprentice, they have a mortgage and kids, whereas I’m single and free of responsibility’s in my twenties. My salary isn’t overly great for my position and includes 10% of my pension so it seems like I’m earning more than I am.

AIBU? I feel £50 is more than fair but also feel like I shouldn’t have to contribute either while I’m not there.

OP posts:
justasking111 · 26/11/2024 07:45

Dog kennels were £40 per day a few years ago. You're being taken for a ride. You sister is short of money at the moment with her 40 year old apprentice husband and her working part time which is not your problem.

Womblewife · 26/11/2024 07:45

pay The rent as usual and get out asap. You are being abused here let’s be fair. The babysitting, Ubers and now house sitting that you were volunteered for. Say thanks for everything , but you want your own space and then get out of there - this is not going to end well if you stay

Miloarmadillo2 · 26/11/2024 07:43

They are all taking the piss with the ‘favours’ in this arrangement. If you factor in the babysitting and dog walking etc you are paying way over the market rate for staying with your sister. Expecting you to dog sit for months for free is saving the PIL thousands. Get something set up so you can move into a rental as soon as this arrangement ends, not back to your sister. How can you be a graduate earning £35k and value your time so little? It’s one thing to help your sister who it does sound like initially did you a favour to get yourself established but you are not a skivvy to be loaned out!

freebirdblue · 26/11/2024 07:39

ProfessionalPirate · 26/11/2024 07:32

What on earth are you on about, have you been drinking? There’s no suggestion from the OP that the vets bill was an anticipated one. Why doesn’t your dog have insurance? Do you expect your vets to offer you free or discounted care just because? Do you have the same attitude when you go to see a doctor about your own health? If you can’t afford to have pets, don’t have them.

The dog gets an injection every month for medical issues so it is pre planned, and I was requested to book him in for next months one too!

OP posts:
CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 26/11/2024 07:32

freebirdblue · 26/11/2024 07:17

£500 p/m not week, apologies! It would be about £700 inc bills. Very small one bed. £300 inc bills for a shared room in a decent house.

I’d snap up the one bed flat at £700 per month including bills - don’t take the house share, just enjoy independent living for a change. Pay the deposit and set a move in date and only then tell your sister you’re sorted and will be leaving.

And for pity’s sake, do not carry on with the baby sitting, dog walking and the rest - those days are over, don’t let them guilt trip you into carrying on. Make sure BIL’s parents pay you for those vet bills as well as understand you’re doing no more housesitting!

ProfessionalPirate · 26/11/2024 07:32

DreamTheMoors · 26/11/2024 03:05

What stands out to me is the vet bills.
If you kept my little dog, you’d have to pay over $125US every 6 weeks due to her medical needs.
Very unreasonable to ask anyone to pay that while I’m away — I’d never do it because that’s just taking advantage of someone’s kindness.
Instead, I’d make arrangements with the highway robbers who call themselves my vets.

What on earth are you on about, have you been drinking? There’s no suggestion from the OP that the vets bill was an anticipated one. Why doesn’t your dog have insurance? Do you expect your vets to offer you free or discounted care just because? Do you have the same attitude when you go to see a doctor about your own health? If you can’t afford to have pets, don’t have them.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 26/11/2024 07:28

yes to moving out. I’d also tell sister and BIL that helping out HIS parents is actually costing you money. His parents should be paying you to house sit. We pay our house sitters £500/week (plus look after 2 dogs and a cat).
and they are letting someone else stay in your room whilst you aren’t there! Maybe they should be contributing to bills whilst staying, as you will be paying for someone to stay.

Zanatdy · 26/11/2024 07:18

I’d just move out, £150 a week is a fair amount for someone’s spare bedroom. I do think its unfair expecting the full amount when you’re not eating there etc. Tell her you’re giving notice that once you’ve house sat you’ll be getting your own place and won’t be providing free childcare and dog walking. She is taking the P expecting £600 a month for a spare room when you’re also helping them out. 35k isn’t a huge salary at all, though maybe is to your sister. Don’t let her talk you out of leaving, say the house sitting made you realise you want your own space. I assumed you were saving to buy, but if renting you just need enough for one month rent in advance and deposit of around the same.

freebirdblue · 26/11/2024 07:17

HollyKnight · 26/11/2024 06:39

Exactly! Even if she stopped paying into her pension she still wouldn't be able to rent a £500 a week flat on what's left after deductions and student debt.

£500 p/m not week, apologies! It would be about £700 inc bills. Very small one bed. £300 inc bills for a shared room in a decent house.

OP posts:
Molliepuppy · 26/11/2024 07:16

of course they don’t want you to move out: they’re taking advantage of you.

Therealmetherealme · 26/11/2024 07:15

Prisonpillow · 25/11/2024 23:05

It sounds like they need the money and they’re doing you a favour putting you up for a year. I would keep the peace and pay it.

I don't think they are doing her a favour anymore though, I think they like the extra 'income' even though they probably aren't actually making any money, and the live in help.

LarkinAboot · 26/11/2024 07:03

Run. Don't hang around to do them more favours in the new year. Secure that £300 per week room.

You could even do paid dog walking gigs to supplement your income rather than paying out for the pleasure.

Stop being Cinderella asap.

Zapx · 26/11/2024 07:01

Firstly, you sound lovely. Secondly, you need to get yourself out of this dog sitting thing ASAP. So message your sister to say yep, you should’ve realised they’d want continued rent, you can’t afford to do both due to the travel costs, and you’ll be messaging your BIL parent’s asap to say they need to find a dog sitter. A week should be fine, and is totally their problem.

That will probably result in BIL getting a panicked message from his parent’s, but again, not your problem.

After that, I think you need to realise that your sister is MASSIVELY using you! Free childcare while you’re not even living there and doing her in-laws a huge favour?! Time for this to stop OP. I think you should look to move out ASAP. Don’t be persuaded to stay, it doesn’t work for you to be working and baby sitting etc etc. Good luck!

Gorgonemilezola · 26/11/2024 06:58

I think you are being taken advantage of a bit. £100 pw is fine but all the other stuff you do/pay for over and above is a bit of a rip off. Walking 2 dogs for an hour a day would cost your sis £100 a week if she had to pay someone else to do it, and the ubers and babysitting will add up. Not sure they've let you stay out of the kindness of their hearts tbh, and the in laws will be saving a nice chunk not having to pay a house sitter.
I 'd be making plans to move out ASAP.

Mumof2girls2121 · 26/11/2024 06:55

She’s being completely unreasonable.
if you do end up paying the £150 until you find somewhere, I’d suggest no childcare, don’t eat their food. Keep it civil and then get out quick, for sake of your future relationship!

Sunsetsandcocktails · 26/11/2024 06:46

I think your decision to move out sounds sensible OP but can you afford somewhere for £500 per week?? Either way you very calmly need to tell your sister you’re moving out date and start saying no to all the extras or at least agree to what you want to do and no more.

And be careful you’re not expected to carry on the babysitting/dog walking/taxi services when you move out! Practice saying no now.

BlackJacktheDog · 26/11/2024 06:41

Moving out sounds sensible OP.

You've got to the point where everyone else is making decisions for you. They are convincing you to stay. They are arranging for you to dog sit. Etc.

Move out and be totally independent - the freedom to make your own decisions is invaluable.

ohmymyyiaz · 26/11/2024 06:39

I’d say it will be fair to all to pay the rent, split or claim expenses and charge for baby/petsitting.

HollyKnight · 26/11/2024 06:39

EmmerdaleFan78 · 26/11/2024 06:29

You can’t afford £500 per week rent on a £35k per year salary 😆 I’m on £44k PA and my net monthly salary is is only £2700 so I wouldn’t be able to afford that! I thought you were going to say you were on a 6 figure salary or something. You can move out but you need to rethink where and how much you’ve got to spend.

Exactly! Even if she stopped paying into her pension she still wouldn't be able to rent a £500 a week flat on what's left after deductions and student debt.

Wolframandhart · 26/11/2024 06:39

Pay the rent but stop paying for the other things. Getting the vet money back needent be difficult, just had them the invoices.

Edingril · 26/11/2024 06:38

You are a grown up so practice being one and move out no one can talk you into anything unless you let them

ShyCrab · 26/11/2024 06:37

So they now want £150 per week for their free babysitter? I would move out pronto OP as this may turn sour quite shortly. It’s clear they are relying on your money and if I was in this situation I’d feel like they were taking me for a mug. Take back control.

Coconutter24 · 26/11/2024 06:37

SpiggingBelgium · 25/11/2024 23:58

My mum is trying to reason I’d still pay a landlord if I was on holiday, but I’m house sitting for my BIL’s family as a favor (for free) and it’s not exactly a holiday either!

Your mum is right. And any arrangement you have with your BIL’s family is separate to that with your sister.

They are expecting you to pay a retainer to keep the room open, which is reasonable. Will you be storing stuff there whilst house sitting? If you are, you should expect to continue paying.

But their not keeping the room open a friend is going to stay over in it?

HollyKnight · 26/11/2024 06:35

Dimpliy · 26/11/2024 06:11

We don't know unless OK shares how much she is paying for her sister and BIL's Ubers, takeaways, date night contributions etc. Sis is demanding £600 from Jan. And even one or two takeaways and Ubers a week can add up to hundreds a month.

And OP will be independent in her own place and not have to live with people who use her like a service and offer her up for free dog sitting for 2 months whilst still expecting rent and sell her a dud car.

Edited

£600 plus some Ubers and food will still be a lot cheaper than £1.2-2k a month on rent plus all food and personal expenses. Like I said, if renting privately will prevent her from being able to save up a deposit for her own home it would be wiser to just stay at her sister's for a year. She's on £35k a year, pays 10% into her pension and has student debt. I don't know where she lives, but in the UK that would leave her with less than £2k a month to live on.

EmmerdaleFan78 · 26/11/2024 06:35

Thatdarncat44 · 26/11/2024 05:23

How can you babysit when you are a FY1 dr?

Edited

I think she said FYI which means For Your Information.