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AIBU to think it’s too soon to for the school to be diagnosis autism

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CourageTrouble · 25/11/2024 22:24

I am writing this on behalf of my friend ( who knows ) I have a daughter with SEN needs EHCP etc but even I am struggling to understand exactly what’s going on with the school and friends DS.
We will call him George.

George is 4, summer born ( end of August ) started primary school September, previously went to private nursery from 9-6 4 days a week due to work commitments.
he was fine in nursery, no issues raised. Performed in the graduation assembly fine etc ( relevant later on ) development checks were all normal during toddler years etc

with in the first week of starting school mum was called in because they said he wasn’t where the curriculum needed him to be and didn’t have focus.
he struggled to settle in the mornings, they asked her to drop him off late and pick him up early ( 15 minutes either way )
by the end of the second week they told her that they were removing him from class and putting him in with the nursery kids and then sent her leaflets via email about parenting and autism.
they then called her in a few times to discuss putting him on the Sen register.
last week they called her in to tell her that he wasn’t going to be included in the nativity plays and to keep him at home for the 2 days as he will get nothing from it and won’t conform and other parents will be there.
today they have phoned her to say that they can no longer have him in the afternoons and can only attend the morning.

his only been at school 11 weeks and she is beside her self not understanding what’s going wrong.
when she asks they say his too far behind the curriculum and doesn’t focus.
they talk about him like he 100 percent had autism - she doesn’t mind of course if he does but she is worried that they have come to this conclusion too fast without giving him a chance to settle.

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CourageTrouble · 25/11/2024 22:33

So far it’s basically

  • he gets upset when being dropped off
  • he won’t sit for long enough
  • he is too far behind the curriculum
  • he keeps hugging people
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Bluevelvetsofa · 25/11/2024 22:33

What is the school putting in place to support him? What adjustments are made for him, other than telling mum he can only be in school in the morning, or take part in the Nativity play. They’re effectively excluding him informally, which isn’t acceptable.

It does seem strange that he was fine in nursery and now isn’t.

It’s clear they don’t want him in school.

Threeandahalf · 25/11/2024 22:32

They can't just send him home when they're prepping for the nativity. That's a big no no. Even bigger no no if they think he has additional needs. Inclusive ? Not very.

Dithercats · 25/11/2024 22:32

This is called an illegal exclusion.
She does not have to agree to late/early drop offs to school, and they cannot ask him to do half days, or stay home from school.
Tell her to refuse or ask for the official exclusion paperwork.
Then ask to have a meeting with the SENCo as to what the child's needs are, and what the school suggest - they should be applying for an EHCP if they are genuinely concerned, and to see an educational psychologist etc.

CourageTrouble · 25/11/2024 22:31

Apileofballyhoo · 25/11/2024 22:30

Could she ask for specific examples of his behaviour, is he disruptive, is he oppositional, what exactly is going on? It's very hard to tell from your description. Also, sounds more like ADHD if he can't focus.

This is the issue, when she asks they just say his not where he needs to be and that he won’t sit on the carpet for the same length of time etc but nothing very specific.

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PeriPeriMam · 25/11/2024 22:30

How can a four year old be so far from "where the curriculum needs them to be" that they get removed from class? Are there any examples?

Shinyandnew1 · 25/11/2024 22:30

If he is on the SEND register, I’d look at what targets they have in place for him-they clearly are concerned. What has been said at meetings she’s been to?

Apileofballyhoo · 25/11/2024 22:30

Could she ask for specific examples of his behaviour, is he disruptive, is he oppositional, what exactly is going on? It's very hard to tell from your description. Also, sounds more like ADHD if he can't focus.

CourageTrouble · 25/11/2024 22:28

RedToothBrush · 25/11/2024 22:27

Do you think they would be doing this for fun?

Do you know how hard a lot of people find it to get this far?

I don’t think that’s what she is saying at all
but they are now removing him from things and also cutting his time table by half.

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RedToothBrush · 25/11/2024 22:27

Do you think they would be doing this for fun?

Do you know how hard a lot of people find it to get this far?

CourageTrouble · 25/11/2024 22:25

Jeez I apologise for the title 🤣🤣 I really should have put my glasses on !

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