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Mum expects me to take care of her in old age, I don’t want to AIBU?

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AdvicePleaseHelp · 25/11/2024 21:25

My Mum was horrible to me growing up, a bad Mum. There were a lot of problems in the family home, emotional and mental abuse and an alcoholic Dad. I was a child that reacted to this but all the family issues were placed squarely on my shoulders. She neglected me badly enough for it to be led to bullying and it was just horrible.

She lies to herself about how horrible it was and how horrible she was to me and believes her own lies.

We recently had a conversation about care homes, (we pretend that I didn’t have the childhood I did) and I said I had no intentions to look after anyone in their old age (I’m much harder to bully these days) she looked genuinely surprised and said ‘I thought you would look after me’ instead of her going into a home, I said it’s not something I want to go through.

So, considering we brush past the past AIBU, should I be helping my Mum when she gets old and provide the care for her she never gave me so she doesn’t go into a home?

Just to add - I’m currently working on going lower & lower contact with her but when you’ve grown up and this has been your normal and all of a sudden realise as an adult how fucked up that was it’s incredibly hard to just go NC when it’s never been an issue before and many other family members would be greatly affected.

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AdvicePleaseHelp · 25/11/2024 22:21

Kendodd · 25/11/2024 22:08

One thing I've noticed reading multiple threads such as this. It seems the worse the parent, the more they expect to be taken care of by their children in old age.
Has anyone else noticed that pattern? Is it really a thing or am I just seeing something that isn't there?

Interesting!!

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AdvicePleaseHelp · 25/11/2024 22:20

ThinWomansBrain · 25/11/2024 22:17

if she brings it up again, turn the conversation around to the assisted dying bill.
She'll stop bringing it up.

😂😂

I actually might!!

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AdvicePleaseHelp · 25/11/2024 22:20

GranPepper · 25/11/2024 22:16

Well. Just be prepared for Social Work to try and manipulate you into caring. It happened to me. My father was neglectful, swanned off for many years, came into my life erratically (probs only because I kept the door open sending birthday/Xmas/postcards/ photos of his grandchildren he made no effort to see) then he got dementia, his "girlfriend" of 25 years aggressively phoned me and said he was my problem and she wasn't going to help. I am a helpful person so I got sucked into care role. I made sure he was well cared for because it's in my caring nature but it almost broke me and I wouldn't do it again if I could turn back the clock. I think it was the "I feel bad about this" comment you made that prompted me to say, if you want to care, do; if you don't, it's not on you

Thank you for this.

I think I’m going to have therapy for the things that happened on my childhood.

As I said I’m not as easy to bully any more. If SS come knocking it will be a firm no.

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ThinWomansBrain · 25/11/2024 22:17

if she brings it up again, turn the conversation around to the assisted dying bill.
She'll stop bringing it up.

GranPepper · 25/11/2024 22:16

AdvicePleaseHelp · 25/11/2024 21:48

@CulturalNomad I had a somewhat difficult relationship with my late mother. In her final years I made sure that she got the care and support that she needed, but I did not volunteer to become her carer.

that’s good of you. This isn’t something I feel like I want to do or take on the responsibility for, I don’t feel like I owe her a thing. I feel bad about this but, to be honest, I don’t think I should feel bad about it. After all, she doesn’t.

Well. Just be prepared for Social Work to try and manipulate you into caring. It happened to me. My father was neglectful, swanned off for many years, came into my life erratically (probs only because I kept the door open sending birthday/Xmas/postcards/ photos of his grandchildren he made no effort to see) then he got dementia, his "girlfriend" of 25 years aggressively phoned me and said he was my problem and she wasn't going to help. I am a helpful person so I got sucked into care role. I made sure he was well cared for because it's in my caring nature but it almost broke me and I wouldn't do it again if I could turn back the clock. I think it was the "I feel bad about this" comment you made that prompted me to say, if you want to care, do; if you don't, it's not on you

SusieSussex · 25/11/2024 22:14

My mum was similar. Adult children giving back to their parents is all very well if they were decent parents, but if I gave back to my mum what she gave to me as a child it would involve me hitting and emotionally abusing her. Not a good idea, so I'll pass up thanks.

fiftiesmum · 25/11/2024 22:14

I had no desire to do personal care for my mother - she had been controlling for my entire life but until I married and got to know my mother in law I thought that was normal. She had not looked after her parents (had left it all to her sister). I got a lot of "I didn't think you would treat me like this" " you think more of your DH and children than you do of me"
OP - think carefully before you get pressured into caring for her

Gardendiary · 25/11/2024 22:13

AdvicePleaseHelp · 25/11/2024 21:59

Thank you! I don’t think I will be doing that, I’ll be living my life and being happy after a rough start x

Good for you. I don’t think she deserves you running around sorting nice carers out.

JaceLancs · 25/11/2024 22:08

I would just reassure her that you will do what you think is best for her ie try and ensure she has an ok nursing home or good package of care that does not mean you do any of the caring yourself
As many others have already said even though I’m very close to my DC I wouldn’t expect more - they have their own lives to lead x I’ve had mine

Kendodd · 25/11/2024 22:08

One thing I've noticed reading multiple threads such as this. It seems the worse the parent, the more they expect to be taken care of by their children in old age.
Has anyone else noticed that pattern? Is it really a thing or am I just seeing something that isn't there?

CautiousLurker1 · 25/11/2024 22:08

Agree with other PPs here - you are under no obligation to look after your mum. I adore my kids and may not have been the most perfect parent even though I have tried my damnedest… but I am very clear that I do not want them taking on my care when I get there. I am hoping they will be too busy with careers, kids, partners and living the life I raised them to want - not escorting me to a downstairs commode.

ForGreyKoala · 25/11/2024 22:03

StMarie4me · 25/11/2024 21:28

I do not expect my grown children to look after me. I have told them so. And we are very close.

I'm an only child and my parents never expected me to look after them. My DM ended up in care, she was very much against that, but when it happened she made up her mind that she would deal with it and she did. My DF bought an apartment attached to a care home and lived there. They would have hated the thought of me having to look after them.

I have no children so no-one will be burdened with my care.

Onlycoffee · 25/11/2024 22:02

I don't think any parent should expect their children to look after them!

A lot of very loved children also put their parents in care homes, it's a huge commitment at a time when the children usually have their own children to look after.

My mum still gives me a hard time! I moved away in my twenties, gone LC many times, I wish I'd gone NC years ago but she is in her 80s now so I maintain phone contact. My golden child sibling looks after her, rather poorly and she's always complaining but she chose that path years ago when she neglected me in favour of them.

AdvicePleaseHelp · 25/11/2024 21:59

Paulie1981 · 25/11/2024 21:57

I think in this situation, id ensure she was looked after by a nice care home/carers but you do not have to physically do this yourself. Stop talking about it until the time comes or she will try to manipulate you into doing it. Dont feel bad, its your life x

Thank you! I don’t think I will be doing that, I’ll be living my life and being happy after a rough start x

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AdvicePleaseHelp · 25/11/2024 21:58

CulturalNomad · 25/11/2024 21:55

that’s good of you. This isn’t something I feel like I want to do or take on the responsibility for, I don’t feel like I owe her a thing. I feel bad about this but, to be honest, I don’t think I should feel bad about it. After all, she doesn’t

I'm sorry @AdvicePleaseHelp , I didn't mean to imply that you should do the same. My situation was completely different. My mother had many issues and was extremely difficult, but she was not guilty of abuse or neglect. Your mother's treatment of you changes the equation as far as I'm concerned.

I don’t feel like you did, I think it’s my own guilt edging in. When you’ve had a life time of being made to feel like a bad person, it’s hard to shake.

In a way I’m grateful, I know I’m such a good Mum to my children, my Mum showed me all the things I don’t want to be so if any good came of it, it’s that.

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hattie43 · 25/11/2024 21:57

I understand how you feel OP I'm in the same situation.

Paulie1981 · 25/11/2024 21:57

I think in this situation, id ensure she was looked after by a nice care home/carers but you do not have to physically do this yourself. Stop talking about it until the time comes or she will try to manipulate you into doing it. Dont feel bad, its your life x

coldcallerbaiter · 25/11/2024 21:56

I have a neighbour who I am pretty sure has MIL at home with them due to wanting to save on care home fees, if it was free, I have no doubt she’d be in a home. So there are other motives other than actually wanting to do it for devotion.

My own dm was good to me, if a little overbearing due to worry. I am now the same as her, good but a micro manager. I would not expect my dc to look after me, my dm feels the same. Keeping in touch, visits, protection from scams and sorting stuff out, I would do for dm and would expect from dc. Dm is paying for a carer to come in and I will do the same, money has to be put aside for that, a lot of money.

CulturalNomad · 25/11/2024 21:55

that’s good of you. This isn’t something I feel like I want to do or take on the responsibility for, I don’t feel like I owe her a thing. I feel bad about this but, to be honest, I don’t think I should feel bad about it. After all, she doesn’t

I'm sorry @AdvicePleaseHelp , I didn't mean to imply that you should do the same. My situation was completely different. My mother had many issues and was extremely difficult, but she was not guilty of abuse or neglect. Your mother's treatment of you changes the equation as far as I'm concerned.

Hoppinggreen · 25/11/2024 21:53

I had a good relationship with my Mum and not for one second did I consider looking after her 100% of the time when she was old enough to need it and neither did she expect it.
There is no way you should do it OP

ThisQuirkyPeachHare · 25/11/2024 21:53

You reap what you sow in my opinion.

I feel the same about my mother... I didn't have a loving childhood where I felt prioritised, she never supported me as an child, an adult or as a mother, and she's been a crap grandparent.
We get on ok now, although I see her rarely. I don't feel that I owe her anything... And she wouldn't be at all thankful...

RandomMess · 25/11/2024 21:50

She could have moved, or moved them in with her Wink

Just non committal "like you did with your parents you mean"

Glutenfreemcgee · 25/11/2024 21:50

Yanbu, I’m nc with mine now but even before that I knew I wouldn’t look after her in old age regardless of contact or not, there’s too much trauma/bad blood so she needed to work out her plan for herself.

TomatoSandwiches · 25/11/2024 21:48

She was responsible for you, children have no obligation to be responsible for their parents care in later life.

We've told ours that we don't expect it nor for their disabled brother when the time comes.
This is something that parents and all adults really need to plan for, it's unacceptable to hold this expectation imo.

AdvicePleaseHelp · 25/11/2024 21:48

@CulturalNomad I had a somewhat difficult relationship with my late mother. In her final years I made sure that she got the care and support that she needed, but I did not volunteer to become her carer.

that’s good of you. This isn’t something I feel like I want to do or take on the responsibility for, I don’t feel like I owe her a thing. I feel bad about this but, to be honest, I don’t think I should feel bad about it. After all, she doesn’t.

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