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Scrimp and save to pay mortgage off or live now?

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Easypeelersareterrible · 25/11/2024 16:02

Prompted by thoughts from others threads, I thought I’d pose my current dilemma.

Early 50s, big earners, 3 teens kids, big mortgage. We are a bit stuck about what to do financially. The choice is:

  1. Keep working hard in not very satisfying jobs. Don’t spend extravagantly (but not really living frugally). Get the mortgage (£400k) paid off in 5 years or so.
  2. Keep working hard and pay the mortgage off in the next 10 years or so but take slightly more exciting holidays, buy the kids more kit etc while they are home, make a chicken last 2 meals instead of 5 etc.
  3. Downsize, move to the country, take much lower paid jobs but have more free time to have fun, no mortgage, lots of savings, more laid back pace of life etc.

We’re currently doing 1. I worry that the kids will leave home and we find we pay the mortgage off, have lots of money and time but no kids left to enjoy it with. Do we just have more fun now, treat them more, but the stress of a mortgage for longer. It’s so hard to know how to gauge things.

What are others philosophy on this?

OP posts:
andfinallyhereweare · 26/11/2024 07:22

2 no question

RosesAndHellebores · 26/11/2024 06:53

I agree with the poster who said 1.5. BUT I'd pay £40k off the mortgage and invest £20k. If a job is lost, there's then a tiding over fund if necessary. Also, you are only 50 and you have to live.

NameChange2589 · 26/11/2024 06:44

I’d do 3, living a simpler life and having more time to be with the people you love and do the things you love is worth a lot.

If you think moving to the country would have a really negative impact on your kids well being then I’d go with number 2 until they’re older and off to uni and then do 3.

Tanfastic · 26/11/2024 06:38

Sasannach · 25/11/2024 16:24

Live now. Tomorrow is not guaranteed, and all that.

Absolutely 💯

Having lost two close friends and a relative in the last two years in their fifties I'd say live for now.

Powderblue1 · 26/11/2024 06:37

doodleschnoodle · 25/11/2024 16:08

Personally I'd want to enjoy life as much as possible while kids are still young enough they will do stuff with you. Your mortgage will be paid off in the end regardless, and as far as debts go, a mortgage is a totally standard one. 10 years isn't long till it's gone anyway.

3 sounds good, but would three teen DC enjoy living in the country suddenly? It seems a lot more drastic and is probably a longer term goal.

I would do 2 with an eye to doing 3 in the future.

Life experiences and time together is more important than 5 years off your mortgage. Spend the money on doing nice things together, making your life easier by outsourcing some stuff, that sort of thing. You don't get this time back.

I wholeheartedly agree

Igmum · 26/11/2024 06:35

2 definitely. Take the kids to the theatre, take them on holiday, do stuff together, finish early and just chat. They will be leaving home soon.

superplumb · 26/11/2024 06:13

Bit of both. Over pay a bit but enjoy life. You could be dead tomorrow and your family will just remember you working all hours in a job you dislike rather than fun memories of doing whatever you want

TowerBallroom · 26/11/2024 06:09

fiddleleaffig · 25/11/2024 21:59

Live your life.

There's no guarantee you will be in good enough health to enjoy life when you've finally paid off the mortgage, so live it now.

I think it depends on what you call living your life?
I lived mine while I paid off the mortgage and actually found I was much happier without all the "stuff"
The constant wheel of more?

I got off it

Oops posted too soon
I realised that working long hours to buy stuff was not for me

Settled on a happy medium, zero debt, mortgage paid off.
This is life and happiness, just not the " happy life" that the advertisers think you should have

Pat888 · 26/11/2024 04:44

Are there good jobs and schools in the country?
And a lower paid job doesn’t necessarily mean easier or short hours..
There will be grandchildren eventually - it would be nice to be retired or part time then.

Blarn · 25/11/2024 22:07

Option 2. You will have paid it off before you retire? You will hopefully be in your early 60s in good heath, older children and lots more free money, that doesn't seem that bad. You can always pay more in if you are able each year, but restrictig yourselves so much to paying off in five years instead o ten seems pointless.

Letstheriveranswer · 25/11/2024 22:07

If it was just you and DH I'd say 1 or 3

But as you have kids,
go for 2.

They really aren't young for long.

I don't think teens would want to uproot to the countryside, so keep that for when they have left home

fiddleleaffig · 25/11/2024 21:59

Live your life.

There's no guarantee you will be in good enough health to enjoy life when you've finally paid off the mortgage, so live it now.

TammyJones · 25/11/2024 20:49

Having read your update I think 1.
You're eating well and doing stuff - just not going over board.
We did 1
4 kids.
Ate well
Paid bills.
No exotic holidays, or brand new cars. Etc
Paying the mortgage off is a great feeling.

Easypeelersareterrible · 25/11/2024 20:08

Bunnycat101 · 25/11/2024 18:34

2 sounds the most sensible- 1 sounds like you’re being too tight and I think you’d regret 3.

Im also not sure why you’re so desperate to pay off the mortgage when you’re so close to being able to access your pension. If anything I’d be ploughing the money into pension for the tax relief and then using the tax free lump sum to clear a big portion of the mortgage. I certainly wouldn’t be overpaying when you’re only a few years from being able to access tax efficient money via the pension. Overpaying now seems to be a really inefficient use of the money.

We’d like to pay off the mortgage as one job loss and we’d more than likely have to move. And that possibly wouldn’t be a bad thing in the end as we are probably going to move on the next 15 years anyway, but the thought of having our hand forced in a depressing way in what might be an awkward time of life just hangs over us. We’ve never consciously decided to live like this, it’s just happened.

We aren’t ‘tight’ as such. We buy good quality food. We buy kids things that they want but not to a silly extent like their friends We do things like get them an iPhone but a fairly standard version. We drive a car that we bought outright that gets us from a to b. Not what’s deemed a premium brand but drives. We just don’t eat out much or go to the likes of Alton towers or the zoo. These things cost so much and it’s not something we really value. But maybe we should try doing these things more. We’re either being boring or teaching our kids the value of money.

And of course a chicken doesn’t last 5 days - in any other world than mumsnet world.

OP posts:
DGPP · 25/11/2024 19:38

Same boat as you OP, we’re doing 2 with a view to doing 1 when everyone has left home

MasterBeth · 25/11/2024 19:34

If you have the ability to knock £80k every year for five years off your mortgage, why not knock £50k off for eight years and have £30k a year for nice holidays and teenage trests?

BigCarMistake · 25/11/2024 19:26

It would be 1 for me. You don’t know what’s going to happen with your health and you’re getting to the age where it would be difficult to find similar level rôles if made redundant etc. Pay down the mortgage and focus on being able to retire at a sensible time.

Mumofteenandtween · 25/11/2024 19:22

Almostneverunreasonable · 25/11/2024 19:16

I’d do 1.5. Pay mortgage off in 7.5 years and have moderately exciting holidays.

Agree. Fun with kids while they are still young is reallly important but so is security. Usually with mortgages if you overpay then you can “underpay” in the future without penalty. (Check the wording on yours.) I would aim to get to maybe “1-2 years ahead” as that means that if one of you is made redundant then you have breathing space. But keep having your mountain bike holidays.

Do they bike with a club? Are they on the BC pathway? (From experience) that is an excellent way of solving a “how do I spend my money” problem.

Almostneverunreasonable · 25/11/2024 19:16

I’d do 1.5. Pay mortgage off in 7.5 years and have moderately exciting holidays.

Xmasbaby11 · 25/11/2024 19:15

2 for sure

you need to enjoy the time with your kids! And you’ll still have the mortgage paid off early (?) 60s. Sounds like you are financially comfortable so it’s doable.

Womblewife · 25/11/2024 19:11

3 all day long for me . Life’s too short!

strangeandfamiliar · 25/11/2024 19:10

2....the teenage years really whizz by. I wouldn't ever move London/urban teenagers to the country. And I hate the idea of living super-frugally just to pay off the mortgage if you don't have to - life's for living now. Our youngest is at university now and we'll pay off the mortgage next year when our fixed rate ends. I feel a bit robbed of the 'great holidays with teens' thing as Covid interrupted that, but we did still some fantastic road trips and city breaks with them, by accepting that paying down the mortgage could wait. We're still only in our mid-late 50s and not retired yet; actually we've found our (demanding) jobs easier now the dc are older. No regrets.

DoYouReally · 25/11/2024 19:07

In your position, I would aim for 7.5 years.

A bit of balance - still allows for some fun money bit not an unnecessary amount.

Wakeywake · 25/11/2024 19:00

For me, 1 is what you do before you have children and 3 is what you do when you retire. Save some, spend some is what you do in the middle.

MissUltraViolet · 25/11/2024 19:00

2 and then 3 once the children are grown, at uni, off doing their own thing.

Enjoy your life and your children now,