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Should i be annoyed?

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PinaColada24 · 25/11/2024 14:10

My partner of 20+ years and I recently went a way for a long weekend. We have 2 adult children. I’m not normally insecure or the jealous type but for some reason this has unnerved and annoyed me.

On the flight home we were both sat in the aisle seat across the aisle from each other. It was only a 90 minute flight.

He was sat next to a young woman who looked to be in her early 20s.

He was watching a film on his phone and literally as the flight was about to take off the woman started talking to him. They carried on chatting for the entire flight.

I paused my film a few times and at no point did he even look over at me. They carried on laughing and chatting.

Generally on a flight he’s not one to chat. We both watch something on our individual devices. He told me afterwards that she was a nervous flyer.

Towards the end of the flight we had some turbulence. He knows that scared me but again they just carried on chatting.

I know nothing untoward happened so why do I feel so annoyed?

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Bluepenguin20 · 30/11/2024 00:48

On the upside I actually think it's really sweet that after 20 years together you still can get a bit jealous. He is yours OP ❤

Bluepenguin20 · 30/11/2024 00:28

With kindness, you are creating a problem that doesn't exist.

DH has been a good husband to you for 20 years. He chose you, he continues to choose you every day. You are by definition the love of his life. You have a family together.

He had a great conversation with a young person he was sat next to on a flight, literally right in front of you. If he thought he was doing something wrong or had bad intention he would either not have done it at all (or perhaps kept checking to see if you had noticed his bad behaviour). He clearly didn't think he was doing anything wrong because his heart and mind were in the right place.

It's great that he had a nice conversation with the person he sat next to on the flight. I suspect quite strongly he might have felt quite paternally towards her if she was young and a nervous flyer (and he had young adult kids himself).

I think the real issue here might be a self worth and confidence issue. Which we all have from time to time! May I suggest though that instead of wasting time turning this into something it never was, use it as a catalyst to boost how you feel about yourself. Book a hair appointment, go shopping, exercise, have dinner with friends or hubby etc Look after yourself and enjoy the nice life together you have successfully created.

Whiteskies · 29/11/2024 16:01

I am older than you, OP and I would love my husband to have a bit of attention from someone interesting in your situation. It would do him the world of good to feel that someone enjoyed his company. It would give him something to tell me about.
I cannot imagine feeling jealous though. I love my husband to bits and completely trust him. I wouldn't make him feel bad about something that made him feel interesting and interested. I would feel similarly grateful if someone took an interest in talking to my mother on a longish flight even though it meant she didn't focus solely on me.

LimeLightLiz · 29/11/2024 15:52

Fizzadora · 29/11/2024 00:34

He hasn't actually apologised though has he? He just won't accept he acted like a pathetic old goat and was rude to completely ignore you, because that's a bit embarrassing isn't it?

No useful advice OP. My DH was always like this. When I was young and confident it didn't bother me. When I was fat and middle aged it did. Now I'm old (and still fat) I sometimes wish he'd do it again and fuck off with them.

😂

Allmychickenscometoroost · 29/11/2024 13:41

Lickityspit · 29/11/2024 12:56

I’m just interested if you would still feel the same if it was a 20 something man he was talking to or an older woman?
I think I’d be annoyed too. My DP is very attentive (overly so sometimes) but I think I’d be miffed if he chatted exclusively to someone else for the whole flight and ignored me

My ex chatted almost the whole way on a flight to the man next to him, and I was upset and annoyed too. I think it's more the effort he'd put in with a virtual stranger, and leaving me feeling ignored that hurt. Would have been worse had it been a woman I think.

coffeesaveslives · 29/11/2024 12:59

TTPDTS · 29/11/2024 07:40

Did you try to talk to him and he ignored you? I do think YABU for repeatedly bringing it up because you don't like his response enough. Especially if your go to plane routine is watching your own stuff and ignoring each other!

I've chatted to so many people on planes, it's quite a normal thing to do.

It's normal to chat but I don't think it's normal to totally ignore your partner while you do so!

Lickityspit · 29/11/2024 12:56

I’m just interested if you would still feel the same if it was a 20 something man he was talking to or an older woman?
I think I’d be annoyed too. My DP is very attentive (overly so sometimes) but I think I’d be miffed if he chatted exclusively to someone else for the whole flight and ignored me

TTPDTS · 29/11/2024 07:40

Did you try to talk to him and he ignored you? I do think YABU for repeatedly bringing it up because you don't like his response enough. Especially if your go to plane routine is watching your own stuff and ignoring each other!

I've chatted to so many people on planes, it's quite a normal thing to do.

coffeesaveslives · 29/11/2024 07:30

I understand why you're upset too - feeling ignored and left out is horrible, especially somewhere like a plane where you can't just wander off and do your own thing.

I'm surprised so many people are defending him - you were sitting within arm's reach of him and he never thought to check on you or introduce you into the conversation? It's rude and thoughtless at best.

SunnySideUK77 · 29/11/2024 07:26

I think you’re so upset because this has made you feel a bit ‘old’ and realise that there are younger women out there that could catch ypur husbands eye and he could actually engage with if he wanted to. The fact he was so engrossed he ignored you made you feel it even more - unseen and irrelevant. Totally understandable even though there was no chance of anything untoward. He enjoyed it so much because it made him feel energised, a bit powerful and relevant (the opposite to how you must have felt).
His apology was a non-apology where he failed to see it from your side.
i think you need to chalk your lingering feelings up this this - recognise that’s how you felt and then try to move on. If you keep going on about it he’s going to keep remembering how lovely it felt.

ChristmasFluff · 29/11/2024 07:12

OP, have you never enjoyed a conversation with another person, without it meaning anything at all except that?

I don't think he's done anything wrong, and I would say I am usually pretty quick to jump to LTB.

It's nice for anyone to be 'seen' by a stranger and pass a pleasant hour on a boring flight - that's all this was.

If you'd tapped him on the arm and he'd shrugged you off, then that is ignoring you. But not having you at the centre of his thoughts 100% of the time is not that.

RikkiTikki · 29/11/2024 07:08

OP, just let him that one moment of flirtation, we all need to feel interesting and attractive to the world everyone again. And it’s really sweet that you are jealous, your love is alive. 😍

RhaenysRocks · 29/11/2024 06:59

OP, what did you want him to notice about you during that time? Were you visibly upset at the turbulence or did you have headphones on watching the film? I don't think he was ignoring you..that's implies a deliberate avoiding. He was talking to someone else that's all., while were occupied. If you otherwise had a great weekend and he's a good guy I'm sorry but I think YABU unreasonable on this one and if you keep.pushing him to apologise for something he doesn't think he did, it's not going to end well. You FEELING like he was ignoring you isn't the same as him ACTUALLY ignoring you. He's apologised for you feeling that way. I'd drop it now. Really.

sometimesmovingforwards · 29/11/2024 06:58

PinaColada24 · 26/11/2024 21:18

I had some very understanding responses from posters yesterday and just wondered if anyone is around to help me understand this better.

I’m still so upset. My husband does not understand why at all. He said he’s sorry if I felt ignored but that wasn’t his intention. I know nothing happened and they were just chatting but I just feel so upset that he didn’t notice I was there.

In the scheme of things I know this is so incredibly minor so why does it hurt so much?

Jeeez you sound high maintenance.

21ZIGGY · 29/11/2024 06:48

I dont get this. OP says they usually separately watch films. So they ignore each other then and thats ok?

Dimpliy · 29/11/2024 01:52

It sounds like OP didn't try and engage him in conversation either.

OP knows her DH best but I've had some really good chats with strangers on airplanes and trains, with both men and women.

I see DH every day and we talk about anything and everything but sometimes you get a different type of stimulus from talking to a stranger. And with OP not sat next to him it would have been harder to include her.

Somewhat on a tangent, I've been in work dinners where I've noticed some people at the end of a table feeling left out. But it would have been awkward to shout across the table to them so I leave them be and just make sure to talk to them after the meal for a bit. Similarly I've been at the end of a table where I've not felt fully a part of the conversation but I don't take it personally.

Allmychickenscometoroost · 29/11/2024 00:54

PinaColada24 · 26/11/2024 21:18

I had some very understanding responses from posters yesterday and just wondered if anyone is around to help me understand this better.

I’m still so upset. My husband does not understand why at all. He said he’s sorry if I felt ignored but that wasn’t his intention. I know nothing happened and they were just chatting but I just feel so upset that he didn’t notice I was there.

In the scheme of things I know this is so incredibly minor so why does it hurt so much?

I've had a similar experience on a flight with ex and it made me realise that our relationship wasn't quite what I thought it was. It really made me question the relationship. I felt snubbed.

The fact that your dh didn't check on you at all during the flight is rubbish. Sorry I don't know what to suggest except take some time to care for yourself and validate your own feelings, because he is invalidating them. Do something nice for you, you're obviously hurt so take care of you.

Bluepenguin20 · 29/11/2024 00:41

Do you have daughters?

Fizzadora · 29/11/2024 00:34

He hasn't actually apologised though has he? He just won't accept he acted like a pathetic old goat and was rude to completely ignore you, because that's a bit embarrassing isn't it?

No useful advice OP. My DH was always like this. When I was young and confident it didn't bother me. When I was fat and middle aged it did. Now I'm old (and still fat) I sometimes wish he'd do it again and fuck off with them.

Mumlaplomb · 28/11/2024 23:59

I think it would grate on most people if their partner ignored them for a flight and gave their exclusive attention to a (presumably) attractive younger member of the opposite sex. It’s just a bit rude and I’m sure you’d have been fine if he’d chatted to you as well for some of the time. However it’s done now. You’ve said your piece so I would leave it as in the scheme of things it’s a minor transgression.

RedVelvetIcing · 28/11/2024 22:47

I wonder what he’s like with other women usually? Is he always a chatty person?

LadyGabriella · 28/11/2024 22:44

I would not like that at all.

leccybill · 28/11/2024 22:42

What kind of things were they laughing about? My husband couldn't go 1.5 hrs without referencing me, I'd say (not a boast, he just doesn't have many other topics). You'd expect him to find a way to bring you into the chat.
It is weird on planes though. I once sat by a couple who shared their (delicious) picnic with me and we shared lovely stories. 4 hr flight. Chatting away like besties. Landed, got in the queue, never so much as glanced at each other again.

PinaColada24 · 26/11/2024 21:18

I had some very understanding responses from posters yesterday and just wondered if anyone is around to help me understand this better.

I’m still so upset. My husband does not understand why at all. He said he’s sorry if I felt ignored but that wasn’t his intention. I know nothing happened and they were just chatting but I just feel so upset that he didn’t notice I was there.

In the scheme of things I know this is so incredibly minor so why does it hurt so much?

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PinaColada24 · 25/11/2024 19:29

So I’ve asked him again today if he understands why I’m upset and he still can’t see that he’s done anything wrong as he was just chatting to her.

I’ll get over it eventually!

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