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Is it reasonable to ask a woman to change her profile picture?

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NewmanintownRob · 25/11/2024 13:03

I have someone I am seeing and she has a picture of her and her deceased husband as her main profile picture on Facebook. I keep in touch with a lot of family and friends through Facebook, but I’m not obsessed by it. However, she has been a widow for four years and I am fully supportive of her sons and family and her deceased husband’s family. However, trying to friend her on Facebook and get her starting to learn more about my family is challenging. if she just simply had a picture of herself, it would be easier - her family and friends know about me and her, most of my family and friends know about me and her. I have a picture of her in my apartment and on my phone - she has no pictures of me in-home or on her phone. I’m trying to advance this to the next level and I’m starting to get worried that she isn’t wanting that. I am giving a time but it does make me a little uncomfortable. AIBU ?

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MildredSauce · 02/12/2024 18:45

NewmanintownRob · 02/12/2024 17:46

Except if she wasn’t a widow- I would know exactly where this would lead - strictly fwb or less than what I may want. Normal dating is not with a couple unless swingers, whether the person in photo is unalived or not. So it IS different. Also the photos all over her bedroom, living room, memorial bench, etc. A man gets the feeling he is a maybe suitable replacement, maybe just intimate partner, perhaps living in another mans house and with his toys and wife - not in something that is welcoming to a new man’s family and friends and is not something true love feels like. Normal couples friend each other, have pictures of each other, buy each other stuff, share stuff, see each other unannounced, more. Not ready to leave but at some point I may want more than what she can ever offer no matter what the circumstance - but it needs time I admit. Just trying to learn modern dating and learn the aspects of dating a widow. I live 40 mins away but work part time near the house.

Living with another man's toys?

Can you unpack that for us @NewmanintownRob ?

StrawberryDream24 · 02/12/2024 18:34

As a single 50s (?) man who's willing to get into a serious relationship, who works, is presumably solvent, who does not have addictions , mental health issues etc etc ...you are gold dust on the dating scene.
50s, 40s and some 30s women will consider you.

You would have plenty of options. Maybe you'll have good chemistry with another woman. That's a numbers game.

This woman sounds like she's not ready to move on and can't give you what you'd like at this point. I'd probably not invest any more in it and get out dating and having fun. You might find that comparatively, she's not actually all that. You may well meet another woman who you could see as a potential life partner. One who's actually able and willing to move at the pace you'd like (which is certainly not a fast or unreasonable pace by the sounds of it).

If you ending the relationship and moving on triggers her to change the current status quo (and not just say she will and then Nov change anything); all well and good, but your goal should not be that ...if should be to see who else is out there and give yourself a chance to meet a woman with whom you have chemistry who can have a relationship that goes somewhere within a reasonable time frame (which the vast majority of women will be).

NewmanintownRob · 02/12/2024 18:24

TikTok is for all ages. And not ready to break it off - except for this one thing - I have never felt chemistry like this in my life. We enjoy the same things, we like doing the same stuff. We both get along great with each other‘s family and friends. And our intimacy is thru the roof. But even if we were not intimate - the chemistry, like we are two peas in a pod. Few months of seeing each other few times a week, texts always, never had one issue. I just need to learn to get past this one thing of her being a widow and living in same house and with things everywhere - absolutely everywhere even after 4.5 years and with other men she has dated, some longer duration than me - reminding her and me of her unalived husband.

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 02/12/2024 18:00

NewmanintownRob · 02/12/2024 17:57

You obviously do not use social media - unalived is ok, dead or death is forbidden and can get you banned. Thanks for the comment though !

On Tik Tok maybe, which really isn't helping your case that you're over the age of 12.

vodkaredbullgirl · 02/12/2024 17:59

NewmanintownRob · 02/12/2024 17:57

You obviously do not use social media - unalived is ok, dead or death is forbidden and can get you banned. Thanks for the comment though !

No it can't FFS.

vodkaredbullgirl · 02/12/2024 17:58

NewmanintownRob · 02/12/2024 17:46

Except if she wasn’t a widow- I would know exactly where this would lead - strictly fwb or less than what I may want. Normal dating is not with a couple unless swingers, whether the person in photo is unalived or not. So it IS different. Also the photos all over her bedroom, living room, memorial bench, etc. A man gets the feeling he is a maybe suitable replacement, maybe just intimate partner, perhaps living in another mans house and with his toys and wife - not in something that is welcoming to a new man’s family and friends and is not something true love feels like. Normal couples friend each other, have pictures of each other, buy each other stuff, share stuff, see each other unannounced, more. Not ready to leave but at some point I may want more than what she can ever offer no matter what the circumstance - but it needs time I admit. Just trying to learn modern dating and learn the aspects of dating a widow. I live 40 mins away but work part time near the house.

Why don't you just break up with her, you clearly can't get past the fact she is a widow and keep bloody repeating it.

NewmanintownRob · 02/12/2024 17:57

You obviously do not use social media - unalived is ok, dead or death is forbidden and can get you banned. Thanks for the comment though !

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 02/12/2024 17:49

NewmanintownRob · 02/12/2024 17:46

Except if she wasn’t a widow- I would know exactly where this would lead - strictly fwb or less than what I may want. Normal dating is not with a couple unless swingers, whether the person in photo is unalived or not. So it IS different. Also the photos all over her bedroom, living room, memorial bench, etc. A man gets the feeling he is a maybe suitable replacement, maybe just intimate partner, perhaps living in another mans house and with his toys and wife - not in something that is welcoming to a new man’s family and friends and is not something true love feels like. Normal couples friend each other, have pictures of each other, buy each other stuff, share stuff, see each other unannounced, more. Not ready to leave but at some point I may want more than what she can ever offer no matter what the circumstance - but it needs time I admit. Just trying to learn modern dating and learn the aspects of dating a widow. I live 40 mins away but work part time near the house.

OK, up until now I figured maybe you were just a bit weird.

But surely there isn't anyone on the planet over the age of 12 who actually uses the word "unalived"?

NewmanintownRob · 02/12/2024 17:46

Except if she wasn’t a widow- I would know exactly where this would lead - strictly fwb or less than what I may want. Normal dating is not with a couple unless swingers, whether the person in photo is unalived or not. So it IS different. Also the photos all over her bedroom, living room, memorial bench, etc. A man gets the feeling he is a maybe suitable replacement, maybe just intimate partner, perhaps living in another mans house and with his toys and wife - not in something that is welcoming to a new man’s family and friends and is not something true love feels like. Normal couples friend each other, have pictures of each other, buy each other stuff, share stuff, see each other unannounced, more. Not ready to leave but at some point I may want more than what she can ever offer no matter what the circumstance - but it needs time I admit. Just trying to learn modern dating and learn the aspects of dating a widow. I live 40 mins away but work part time near the house.

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Lickityspit · 02/12/2024 17:13

Dear god man she is not “a widow”. She is a woman. The fact she has suffered a tragic loss is only part of her story. Stop banging on about her being widowed

KyleofLochAlsh · 01/12/2024 19:42

NewmanintownRob · 01/12/2024 18:11

Not trying to rush - it is just that we are not getting younger and I don’t want to move too slow and I am still figuring things out - and learning what it means to be a widow. And my situation - my Financial situation will get much better next year as child support ends and other things are paid off and other items go in my favor while she is looking to retire in a little over a year at a much much lower monthly income after expenses than what I make. In someways, we have an ideal situation if we did get married in two years, but it can wait for now as I personally don’t care if we ever get married. I would have an opportunity soon to move closer to her, and then we both have to look at different retirement challenges because I will work for at least five more years. Discussions for later not now - no need for me to rush that fast. thanks again for all the input - life gets very complex sometimes. Dating isn’t easy let alone dating a widow - with 2 people nearing retirement age.

I'm sorry but for someone who's still in their late 50s you are sounding like someone so much older. You might have another 25 years!
Not everyone who dates as an older person feels that time is running out in the way you've said, several times here.

You mention a career in the military- are you ex forces in the UK?

You say you could move closer to this woman but in a previous post you said you worked 15 minutes away from where she lives- so you can't be that far apart unless you travel a long way for work.

vodkaredbullgirl · 01/12/2024 19:22

Discsareshit · 01/12/2024 18:47

Very relevant isn't it. If she wasn't a widow and had her profile photo of her with someone else, it'd be LTB straight away.

Every reply from OP has had widow in it, so doesn't need to keep repeating.

NewmanintownRob · 01/12/2024 19:12

Hahaha - who would date someone that has a profile picture with someone else that they would still be married or in a relationship and I would just be her mistress and travel companion ? lol

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DottyBaguette · 01/12/2024 19:09

Yanbu to be bothered by it. I would give her some time, but once you reach the stage of 'love' and have been together a couple of years I'd think she should change it.

It's not disrespecting her deceased husband, but if she's excited about a future with you I'd expect her to have a photo of you together.

TheShellBeach · 01/12/2024 18:52

MildredSauce · 01/12/2024 18:47

is she a widow? I had not realised....

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

MildredSauce · 01/12/2024 18:47

gamerchick · 01/12/2024 18:30

She's still a bloody woman. Stop banging on about her being a widow like it's alien. It makes you sounds like a reet GF.

is she a widow? I had not realised....

Discsareshit · 01/12/2024 18:47

vodkaredbullgirl · 01/12/2024 18:04

Why keep mentioning she is a widow?

Very relevant isn't it. If she wasn't a widow and had her profile photo of her with someone else, it'd be LTB straight away.

MildredSauce · 01/12/2024 18:47

NewmanintownRob · 01/12/2024 18:11

Not trying to rush - it is just that we are not getting younger and I don’t want to move too slow and I am still figuring things out - and learning what it means to be a widow. And my situation - my Financial situation will get much better next year as child support ends and other things are paid off and other items go in my favor while she is looking to retire in a little over a year at a much much lower monthly income after expenses than what I make. In someways, we have an ideal situation if we did get married in two years, but it can wait for now as I personally don’t care if we ever get married. I would have an opportunity soon to move closer to her, and then we both have to look at different retirement challenges because I will work for at least five more years. Discussions for later not now - no need for me to rush that fast. thanks again for all the input - life gets very complex sometimes. Dating isn’t easy let alone dating a widow - with 2 people nearing retirement age.

ffs read your last two updates - are you on a target for how many times you can say the word "widow"?????????????🤣

Discsareshit · 01/12/2024 18:46

Allthesharksgoout · 25/11/2024 13:52

I'm married to a widower and disagree with most of these responses. Of course you shouldn't demand she takes the picture down but it's definitely worth a conversation. I think if you want to know if she's ready for a serious relationship you need to be able to ask, and talk about how you are feeling. If she's not ready for more with you she's not ready, and that's fine and you can move on or keep things light. Of course she will always love her husband, but your feelings count too.

I'm totally baffled by the responses on here. People challenging why they would be FB friends. It's normal to be FB friends with the person you're dating/ your boyfriend/girlfriend if both of you are on FB!
I can also see why OP is uncomfortable with his family seeing photos of his girlfriend with another man. They may not all know she's a widow. He's not thinking of all the photos she has, but her profile photo.

gamerchick · 01/12/2024 18:30

She's still a bloody woman. Stop banging on about her being a widow like it's alien. It makes you sounds like a reet GF.

NewmanintownRob · 01/12/2024 18:11

Not trying to rush - it is just that we are not getting younger and I don’t want to move too slow and I am still figuring things out - and learning what it means to be a widow. And my situation - my Financial situation will get much better next year as child support ends and other things are paid off and other items go in my favor while she is looking to retire in a little over a year at a much much lower monthly income after expenses than what I make. In someways, we have an ideal situation if we did get married in two years, but it can wait for now as I personally don’t care if we ever get married. I would have an opportunity soon to move closer to her, and then we both have to look at different retirement challenges because I will work for at least five more years. Discussions for later not now - no need for me to rush that fast. thanks again for all the input - life gets very complex sometimes. Dating isn’t easy let alone dating a widow - with 2 people nearing retirement age.

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vodkaredbullgirl · 01/12/2024 18:04

Why keep mentioning she is a widow?

KyleofLochAlsh · 01/12/2024 17:55

I think the problem was that you appeared to need her to change her FB photo in order to give credibility of your relationship (to your friends and family on Facebook.)

No one needs to advertise their relationship status on Facebook, or anywhere, with photos or anything else.

Our situation is very complex

From what you have posted before, it doesn't seem 'complex' just early days where you're hoping to run before you can walk.

In other words, you're trying to rush it.

NewmanintownRob · 01/12/2024 17:21

Thanks for all the advice - we have it figured out and I am learning some of the things she is going through. Our situation is very complex - but we do love each other and I get along with her family and friends well, and vice versa. Even her son said I make her happy - I am not a creeper or a controller, I am just learning how to date and especially how to date a widow. I got out of a long-term relationship months ago, never felt even close to how I feel with this woman. And to be honest, I have never felt this way about any woman in my life, and I have been married before . And she tells me the same - in front of her family someone even hinted that maybe we should get married - which blew my mind. Some of these comments here are just rude - how can someone know some of these things if I have not been a widow myself? Many thanks to the community for educating me..

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TheOnionEyes · 30/11/2024 10:09

As you have only been dating a few months, I don't think it's long enough for her to be viewing this long-term, even if you are. I do think losing her husband might play a part in that, too, regardless of how long ago.

It's still the honeymoon stage. It's most certainly not long enough, or at the stage to be talking about her Facebook profile picture. When the honeymoon period is over, and the lust dies down, if you both still feel the chemistry, and still enjoy each others company as much as you do now, then you know it's more of a long-haul relationship. However, this is usually a gradual progression where you really get to know someone given 'good time' to see where it leads. You already said she has told you she wants to continue. Isn't that enough at this stage?

Unfortunately, because you are both older, time is against you. However, if this really is a concern for you because of time, I think an important discussion to have with her right now is the one about your comment stating, "there are plenty of other women out there that are interested in a long term relationship and possibly marriage". This comment says a lot, and if you present this to her, you will truly know how she feels and where she stands right now on this matter. She will either stay, or run, but you will know either way.

She does need to know how you feel, as much as you need to know how she feels. You might even be wasting her time. You both may have loads of similarities but want different things, also. She may not want to get married again, or may not be looking as long-term as you. It would only be you wasting your time if you don't ask about these things that are so important to you. Just not the Facebook profile picture.

You have to make decisions and be responsible for your life. Any delay from moving on is ultimately down to you.

I must say that there are some things you have stated that are quite confusing and contradictory, I feel.

You are using statements such as: "I am ok with things how they are. What we have is more than just a few casual dates. It's too soon to ask her for something too serious. I just want to take it to the next level. We both know what we want, I don't wanna date anyone else because I feel she is the one."

However, I think that this may be because you could be so back and forth with your feelings on the whole thing. For a period of time, you're ok and happy with it and where it's going, and then you may be experiencing feelings of doubt and insecurity. I think that's normal, but you might be confusing her too.

Anyway, I wish you all the best with it 😊