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To say no, as I was an afterthought

157 replies

SkunderlaiSkendi · 25/11/2024 12:11

I went to visit my Mum last week

Whilst there, she mentioned that her and my two siblings (along with their partners and kids) had booked a xmas meal

I was then invited - in her words- ''if we can change the booking''

Me and OH have made very loose plans that involve staying home and would have loved to have gone, but the fact we are an afterthought has pissed me off to such an extent I have said no

AIBU? - clearly it matters not to anyone if me and my husband are there or not?

OP posts:
DottieMoon · 26/11/2024 19:59

SkunderlaiSkendi · 25/11/2024 13:03

Ask what, exactly?

I don’t understand either why you wouldn’t ask? Regardless that it doesn’t change the situation, you are obviously upset you were not included so to not ask is even more bizarre.

GripeOfTheDay · 26/11/2024 19:41

Ok, unless theres some important detail you've left out, ie you stole your sisters husband and family struggling to forgive this aberration etc

its of a pants thing to do, but sometimes so called grown ups never seem to leave family politics behind and are happiest meddling to ensure one member of the family is allways left out in the cold.

Personally, I wouldn't go but I would still politely challenge your Mum by asking if there was any particular reason you were not included in original invite?

Your oher sibling, not the one who clearly carries on the family tradition of being a maggot, whats their situation? Ie are they fairly straightforward and seen this type of family politics played out before and don't engage. If so, have a quiet word and just let them know you were a late invite - irs hurtful etc. They'll empathise and together you can communicate to prevent future occurrences

Only way to ever stop this behaviour is to not support it. Next family get-together check if everyone's invited, if not, why not...

Then take the fish approach to family.... great for 3 days before it all starts to go off....

Best of luck and remember, its their problem, not yours.

IdylicDay · 26/11/2024 19:10

There is no point asking us, you need to ask your mum. But you're obviously not close to her if you can't ask her even a most basic anodyne straight forward question of why she didn't ask you before.

Minc · 26/11/2024 19:01

PS I’m a fan of this phrase:
”Is there a special reason why …?”
(we were not included in the booking)

followed by silence until I get an answer. If I really want to know.

Minc · 26/11/2024 18:58

I’d feel sad if that happened to me. Then I would make bread and bash the living daylights out of the dough.

PotatoLove · 26/11/2024 18:47

My DM and DS used to do this a lot. Except I wasn't given an invite or choice if I wanted to go to places. Years later, I still feel hurt when I think about it.

fetchacloth · 26/11/2024 18:22

If I was you I'd be pissed off too, so YANBU.

AnnieSnap · 26/11/2024 18:21

SkunderlaiSkendi · 25/11/2024 13:03

Ask what, exactly?

Ask her why in your words, you were “an after thought”.

Shopgirl2 · 25/11/2024 17:36

If saying 'no' hurts yourself, and you want to go and would get something positive out of seeing your family, then it's worth making an effort to go despite the snub. Put these initial feelings of hurt aside. If it repeats, then you'll need to ask questions of why you weren't included in the plans from the start.

Livinglifetoday · 25/11/2024 17:06

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:29

ok so not even a fraction as bad as your first post would indicate

I didn't read this post. It's getting worse,just go along & stop the drama.

Livinglifetoday · 25/11/2024 17:04

I would tell my mother & my siblings you are extremely confused about why you weren't included in the initial plan & see what they have to say. If there is a reasonable excuse I'd go along & put it out of my head.

Apolloneuro · 25/11/2024 16:50

bridgetreilly · 25/11/2024 13:11

I wouldn’t cut off my nose to spite my face. If you want to go, go. If you don’t, don’t. But I really think life is much easier if you don’t constantly take offence all over the place.

I must admit I agree with this. I can totally understand why you feel pissed off, but people aren’t perfect and cock up without really thinking.

if you think told enjoy it, go.

Thatcastlethere · 25/11/2024 16:46

I wouldn't cut off your nose to spite your face tbh. If you want to go just say so.. and directly ask why she hadn't thought to include you initially? It may be that she assumed you wouldn't be interested for some reason... I think it's best to find out what's actually gone on here before you decide to take offense.

mondaytosunday · 25/11/2024 16:32

No it's not 'loud and clear'!
Just ask her! At least it is an opportunity to get things out in the open - maybe she is harbouring some resentment you have no idea about! Like now you are harbouring resentment, and she may not realise!

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:29

greengreyblue · 25/11/2024 16:19

My first question to my mum would have been, why didn’t you ask us when you booked?

indeed

but it’s a mumsnet thread afterall

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:29

YouLookinSusBro · 25/11/2024 16:23

Complex relationships in some cases but not bad.

My mum said it was only meant to be 1 sibling and his family and it kind of snowballed. Then my DD was invited as she lived just around the corner and doesn't have a father - she didn't realise I hadn't been invited just assumed I wouldn't have gone as I had a small baby. To be fair I probably wouldn't have but it still stung!

ok so not even a fraction as bad as your first post would indicate

ginslinger · 25/11/2024 16:25

If you want to go and see your siblings then I would accept the offer but I would say that you were hurt by not being included in the initial planning and is there a reason for this.

YouLookinSusBro · 25/11/2024 16:23

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:17

and if you’re honest

what’s your relationship like with these people that a) you weren’t invited and b) they all wanted to go knowing you wouldn’t be there

Complex relationships in some cases but not bad.

My mum said it was only meant to be 1 sibling and his family and it kind of snowballed. Then my DD was invited as she lived just around the corner and doesn't have a father - she didn't realise I hadn't been invited just assumed I wouldn't have gone as I had a small baby. To be fair I probably wouldn't have but it still stung!

zingally · 25/11/2024 16:22

There's clearly a lot of backstory here.

I imagine a lot of it centers around the siblings unknown partner and OP not attending their wedding. Just a hunch.

greengreyblue · 25/11/2024 16:19

My first question to my mum would have been, why didn’t you ask us when you booked?

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:17

YouLookinSusBro · 25/11/2024 16:16

Reminds me of the time my parents, all my siblings and even one of my own DC went out for a father's day meal but didn't invite me.

Not surprised you're hurt op.

and if you’re honest

what’s your relationship like with these people that a) you weren’t invited and b) they all wanted to go knowing you wouldn’t be there

YouLookinSusBro · 25/11/2024 16:16

Reminds me of the time my parents, all my siblings and even one of my own DC went out for a father's day meal but didn't invite me.

Not surprised you're hurt op.

LivinInYourBigGlassHouseWithAView · 25/11/2024 16:16

I think you need to ask your mum why you weren't included from the beginning. Tell her it's making you reconsider your entire relationship with her and whether you want to make any more effort with her and your siblings going forward since you were clearly being excluded from a family Christmas dinner out for no obvious reason.

betterangels · 25/11/2024 16:10

maudelovesharold · 25/11/2024 12:18

I’d probably do exactly the same. I wouldn’t, however let them think I had other plans, I would make it quite clear that I didn’t appreciate being an afterthought. But then I’m petty like that!

I'd do this. I wouldn't be tiptoeing around something so hurtful.

hairbearbunches · 25/11/2024 16:08

redskydarknight · 25/11/2024 13:33

It's relevant because if the answer is "we thought you'd be at work/you like to have Christmas on your own/it would be too far to get to the meal" that's a bit different to "we didn't think about asking you, but suppose we might be able to include you if you you want to come".

Coming up with potential excuses for not inviting someone without finding out whether those excuses hold water is just as hurtful.