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Call a General Election? Really?

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Veryoldandtired · 25/11/2024 08:48

I mean, I very much doubt this will get anywhere in the parliament but nearly 2 mil people signed it in just over 24 hours 😬

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

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rwalker · 25/11/2024 14:44

JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 14:29

I am talking about ONE instance. It was also followed by a free suite at a Heathrow hotel the night before their honeymoon for £1800 but I didn't include that. And this wasn't "hospitality", this was someone paying for his entire wedding. Someone who's son also got a £12.7m Government contract.

I think the problem is the tories being corrupt isn’t a defence for labour to do the same

if anything it’s worse as we’ve had years of them being outraged and banging on
turns out there all cut from the same cloth every week there’s seedy revelations coming out

DuncinToffee · 25/11/2024 14:43

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 14:36

Can you screenshot the praise - your images are from 2016. Presumably 'Peter Sweden' hasn't signed the petition - he appears to be a Swedish journalist not based in the UK.

Sure

you can also read a bit more about him here
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2017/08/01/far-right-vlogger-defend-europe-supporter-peter-swedens-real-identity-revealed/

If you sign the petition, this is the kind of people who are encouraging you to do so

Call a General Election? Really?
Clavinova · 25/11/2024 14:41

JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 14:29

I am talking about ONE instance. It was also followed by a free suite at a Heathrow hotel the night before their honeymoon for £1800 but I didn't include that. And this wasn't "hospitality", this was someone paying for his entire wedding. Someone who's son also got a £12.7m Government contract.

Are we not counting Starmer's free luxury flat accommodation, designer clothes and glasses then?

Notonthestairs · 25/11/2024 14:38

DuncinToffee · 25/11/2024 14:05

This guy is being praised by Musk for supporting this petition

Bloody hell, that's a grim list of tweets.

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 14:36

DuncinToffee · 25/11/2024 14:05

This guy is being praised by Musk for supporting this petition

Can you screenshot the praise - your images are from 2016. Presumably 'Peter Sweden' hasn't signed the petition - he appears to be a Swedish journalist not based in the UK.

JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 14:29

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 14:23

I believe the Johnsons paid cost price for the food so the benefit was less than £12,500.

In any case, Starmer received well over £100,000 in hospitality and gifts when he claimed to have 'nothing in common with Boris Johnson'.

I am talking about ONE instance. It was also followed by a free suite at a Heathrow hotel the night before their honeymoon for £1800 but I didn't include that. And this wasn't "hospitality", this was someone paying for his entire wedding. Someone who's son also got a £12.7m Government contract.

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 14:23

JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 14:06

Yes, I realise my confusion there. The £12.5k was food delivered to Boris & Carrie during lockdown.

I believe the Johnsons paid cost price for the food so the benefit was less than £12,500.

In any case, Starmer received well over £100,000 in hospitality and gifts when he claimed to have 'nothing in common with Boris Johnson'.

Efacsen · 25/11/2024 14:10

DuncinToffee · 25/11/2024 14:05

This guy is being praised by Musk for supporting this petition

He sounds nice - and not at all a dyed in the wool antisemite being supported by Musk

JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 14:06

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 14:00

There wasn't an extra £12,500 worth of food for the wedding - you are mistaken.

Yes, I realise my confusion there. The £12.5k was food delivered to Boris & Carrie during lockdown.

JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 14:05

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 14:00

There wasn't an extra £12,500 worth of food for the wedding - you are mistaken.

So at least a £40k wedding then 🙄

DuncinToffee · 25/11/2024 14:05

This guy is being praised by Musk for supporting this petition

Call a General Election? Really?
JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 14:04

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 13:49

Your link says;

The donation covered the cost of hiring a marquee, Portaloos, waiting staff, flowers, a South African BBQ and an ice cream van.

Maybe the Daily Mail would work better for you:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11193533/Boris-Johnson-gets-Tory-donor-pay-23-000-wedding-celebration.html

But the JCB chairman did not only provide the venue. The register of MPs' financial interests revealed today that Lord and Lady Bamford picked up the £23,000 cost of the lavish celebration.

MP's don't have to declare the use of grounds and property of private individuals, so it was understandable why he didn't declare it. Labour chose to declare the use of grounds and property, which Starmer was vilified for (use of flat during the election period / GCSE exam period), which is why this was highlighted.

Boris Johnson gets Tory donor to pay for his £23,000 wedding bash

The former PM and wife Carrie invited friends and family to the opulent home of JCB owner Lord Bamford in the Cotswolds in July to officially mark their May 2021 wedding.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11193533/Boris-Johnson-gets-Tory-donor-pay-23-000-wedding-celebration.html

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 14:00

JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 13:55

Yes.. I'm not sure the point you're making.

There wasn't an extra £12,500 worth of food for the wedding - you are mistaken.

Alphaalga · 25/11/2024 14:00

People have had a rude awakening finding out how the tories have been asset-stripping the country.

Now they want to pin the blame on the new government that have exposed all the lies the tories and their media dogs have been gaslighting them with for decades about "trickle down" and "we're all in it together" economic hogwash -on top of ideological austerity in lieu of infrastructural investment - instead of looking past the ends of their noses and pointing the finger at those responsible.

Know what democracy's biggest enemy is? Gullibility.

JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 13:55

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 13:49

Your link says;

The donation covered the cost of hiring a marquee, Portaloos, waiting staff, flowers, a South African BBQ and an ice cream van.

Yes.. I'm not sure the point you're making.

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 25/11/2024 13:54

I want my winter fuel allowance back. I didn't vote Labour for that. I voted labour to be rid of my local Tory MP.

I like Daisy Cooper. I would vote Lib Dem if we get another election.

EasternStandard · 25/11/2024 13:52

@itsgettingweird I've put info about the data,you've got it wrong there. No point spreading misinformation in your pp

as for 'fighting against Labour'

I didn't realise mn meant you had to be 'pro Labour'. I'm not surprised at how badly they're doing though.

You keep pushing for them I care not either

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/11/2024 13:51

Idiots. Thats not how it works

Nic834 · 25/11/2024 13:51

EasternStandard · 25/11/2024 13:46

@Nic834 polls will show general sentiment

Labour have lost their lead now and answering 'How is the UK faring under Labour?'

70% said worse and only 8% better

These threads are more pro Labour than that and don't really reflect the polling

Thanks that’s interesting!

Abhannmor · 25/11/2024 13:50

There's a world of morons out there. They'd be screaming blue murder about waste if Starmer said ' oh alright then folks , let's spin the wheel again '.

Remember when the Internet was going to save democracy?

Efacsen · 25/11/2024 13:50

Losingthetimber · 25/11/2024 13:23

The number that really matters is how many people are totally disillusioned with Labour and think the country is in a worst state. The polls have them lost their led and now down to behind Tory. It’s not a pretty picture.

the exact numbers don’t matter, there will be no ge, what matters is the general feeling of the electorate. Irrelevant of who they voted for, and that feeling is nose diving.

only 20 percent voted for Labour, and starmer on this morning has changed his tune, 4 months ago when he won he was giving it mandate of the British people, won by a huge majority, true, and now the nuance has changed, today it’s loads didn’t vote for us.

no mate, they didn’t. And you’re now proving them right.off you pop and see what else you can score for free.

The number that really matters is how many people are totally disillusioned with Labour and think the country is in a worst state. The polls have them lost their led and now down to behind Tory. It’s not a pretty picture.

Didn't think was true - just checked again and it isn't correct

Whilst Labour have indeed lost their big lead - they are still ahead and neither the Tories nor Reform UK have benefited greatly from that

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 13:49

JusteanBiscuits · 25/11/2024 13:46

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62833837

£23,500 was declared. Then there was £12,500 for food donated by Daylesford Farm shop for the wedding. The use of the house and grounds wasn't included in any costing, but would have cost at least £10k

Your link says;

The donation covered the cost of hiring a marquee, Portaloos, waiting staff, flowers, a South African BBQ and an ice cream van.

itsgettingweird · 25/11/2024 13:48

Clav top marks for excelling yourself above your usual C and P whataboutery 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😂

Clavinova · 25/11/2024 13:47

DuncinToffee · 25/11/2024 13:16

Couple of screenshots of those who signed the petition

Postcode SW1A 2AA is Number 10 Downing Street and SW1A 1AA is Buckingham Palace - they might be rumbled!

Haven't checked the others.

EasternStandard · 25/11/2024 13:46

@Nic834 polls will show general sentiment

Labour have lost their lead now and answering 'How is the UK faring under Labour?'

70% said worse and only 8% better

These threads are more pro Labour than that and don't really reflect the polling