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Call a General Election? Really?

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Veryoldandtired · 25/11/2024 08:48

I mean, I very much doubt this will get anywhere in the parliament but nearly 2 mil people signed it in just over 24 hours 😬

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

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Littlemissgobby · 26/11/2024 15:18

DollyParton2 · 26/11/2024 14:11

Labour made more mistakes in its first 100 days – than any postwar government

There is intense disappointment at the never-ending stories from “freebie-gate”, made more intense by the outcry over removing pensioners’ winter fuel allowance, scrapping the cap on social care bills and voting to retain the two-child limit on benefit payments.

Not to mention the diabolical handling of the budget by Rachel Reeves. Bosses have warned that the upshot of Reeves’s Budget will be fewer jobs and less investment in training in what could be a hammer blow to hopes of fixing Britain’s economic inactivity crisis.

Rain Newton-Smith, chief executive of the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) on Monday said that businesses were in “damage control” mode following the Chancellor’s tax raid, with nearly two-thirds of employers cutting their hiring plans as a result.

Deutsche Bank has warned the Budget measures will cost the UK economy 100,000 jobs.

The Budget measures will “absolutely” make it harder for the 9.2m people who are economically inactive in the UK to rejoin the workforce, warns Anna Leach, chief economist at the Institute of Directors (IoD).

How can anybody on here actually still defend this absolute shitshow? They've trashed the economy, and the worst is yet to come.

Did you not forget when Liz truss was the leader?

BitOutOfPractice · 26/11/2024 14:37

@DollyParton2 I’m very interested to hear the historical basis for your “more mistakes in 100 days than any government in history” claim. Speaking as a historian of 20th century political history I find that things like facts matter. I can’t imagine you’ve just made that up. Or have you? I assume you’ve not included the Truss government in your calculations since her government only made it halfway to the hundred-day mark. In fairness to them though, they did really cram the mistakes into that time very efficiently.

EasternStandard · 26/11/2024 14:32

DollyParton2 · 26/11/2024 14:11

Labour made more mistakes in its first 100 days – than any postwar government

There is intense disappointment at the never-ending stories from “freebie-gate”, made more intense by the outcry over removing pensioners’ winter fuel allowance, scrapping the cap on social care bills and voting to retain the two-child limit on benefit payments.

Not to mention the diabolical handling of the budget by Rachel Reeves. Bosses have warned that the upshot of Reeves’s Budget will be fewer jobs and less investment in training in what could be a hammer blow to hopes of fixing Britain’s economic inactivity crisis.

Rain Newton-Smith, chief executive of the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) on Monday said that businesses were in “damage control” mode following the Chancellor’s tax raid, with nearly two-thirds of employers cutting their hiring plans as a result.

Deutsche Bank has warned the Budget measures will cost the UK economy 100,000 jobs.

The Budget measures will “absolutely” make it harder for the 9.2m people who are economically inactive in the UK to rejoin the workforce, warns Anna Leach, chief economist at the Institute of Directors (IoD).

How can anybody on here actually still defend this absolute shitshow? They've trashed the economy, and the worst is yet to come.

For those waiting for change this is the problem Labour have created

BitOutOfPractice · 26/11/2024 14:31

Artistbythewater · 26/11/2024 13:17

Well the Labour money tree that they promised didn’t materialise- funny that. Now people are pissed off, they voted for change and got kicked in the nuts. Even the ‘nasty’ tories wouldn’t allow poor pensioners to freeze half to death in their own homes!!! It’s obscene.

So yeah not surprised the public are turning against them en masse.

They specifically said there wasn’t a money tree.

Artistbythewater · 26/11/2024 14:13

DollyParton2 · 26/11/2024 14:11

Labour made more mistakes in its first 100 days – than any postwar government

There is intense disappointment at the never-ending stories from “freebie-gate”, made more intense by the outcry over removing pensioners’ winter fuel allowance, scrapping the cap on social care bills and voting to retain the two-child limit on benefit payments.

Not to mention the diabolical handling of the budget by Rachel Reeves. Bosses have warned that the upshot of Reeves’s Budget will be fewer jobs and less investment in training in what could be a hammer blow to hopes of fixing Britain’s economic inactivity crisis.

Rain Newton-Smith, chief executive of the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) on Monday said that businesses were in “damage control” mode following the Chancellor’s tax raid, with nearly two-thirds of employers cutting their hiring plans as a result.

Deutsche Bank has warned the Budget measures will cost the UK economy 100,000 jobs.

The Budget measures will “absolutely” make it harder for the 9.2m people who are economically inactive in the UK to rejoin the workforce, warns Anna Leach, chief economist at the Institute of Directors (IoD).

How can anybody on here actually still defend this absolute shitshow? They've trashed the economy, and the worst is yet to come.

Summed up perfectly ^

DollyParton2 · 26/11/2024 14:11

Labour made more mistakes in its first 100 days – than any postwar government

There is intense disappointment at the never-ending stories from “freebie-gate”, made more intense by the outcry over removing pensioners’ winter fuel allowance, scrapping the cap on social care bills and voting to retain the two-child limit on benefit payments.

Not to mention the diabolical handling of the budget by Rachel Reeves. Bosses have warned that the upshot of Reeves’s Budget will be fewer jobs and less investment in training in what could be a hammer blow to hopes of fixing Britain’s economic inactivity crisis.

Rain Newton-Smith, chief executive of the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) on Monday said that businesses were in “damage control” mode following the Chancellor’s tax raid, with nearly two-thirds of employers cutting their hiring plans as a result.

Deutsche Bank has warned the Budget measures will cost the UK economy 100,000 jobs.

The Budget measures will “absolutely” make it harder for the 9.2m people who are economically inactive in the UK to rejoin the workforce, warns Anna Leach, chief economist at the Institute of Directors (IoD).

How can anybody on here actually still defend this absolute shitshow? They've trashed the economy, and the worst is yet to come.

Lyannaa · 26/11/2024 14:09

Even the ‘nasty’ tories wouldn’t allow poor pensioners to freeze half to death in their own homes!!! It’s obscene.

No they just stripped money and support away from disabled people, decimated the NHS and increased child poverty. Pensioners affected by this policy are not poor - most of them own their own homes outright.

PandoraSox · 26/11/2024 14:00

Artistbythewater · 26/11/2024 13:50

It isn’t going to happen, you are still peddling the lie. If you wait long enough Labour will transform the country…< tumbleweed literally> do you even believe this? It’s quite tragic.

No need to be rude. Let's see where we are in 2029, shall we?

Littlemissgobby · 26/11/2024 13:52

Artistbythewater · 26/11/2024 13:50

It isn’t going to happen, you are still peddling the lie. If you wait long enough Labour will transform the country…< tumbleweed literally> do you even believe this? It’s quite tragic.

I think they are achieving more than the tories didn't in last 4 years and even if they don't do much change it's not mps that go through studios and sound like they are big liars and saying stuff that isn't reality. It's been nice to listen to proper politicians again and no more culture war rubbish like kemi does

cardibach · 26/11/2024 13:52

Artistbythewater · 26/11/2024 13:50

It isn’t going to happen, you are still peddling the lie. If you wait long enough Labour will transform the country…< tumbleweed literally> do you even believe this? It’s quite tragic.

It’s not a lie. People don’t seem to know what a lie is anymore.
The country is on its knees.
The government is trying to fix it.
It’ll take time.
Did you really expect nirvana in less than half a year?

Artistbythewater · 26/11/2024 13:50

PandoraSox · 26/11/2024 13:26

I was wondering that.

Most people who voted Labour are sensible enough to realise that meaningful change will take years.

Edited

It isn’t going to happen, you are still peddling the lie. If you wait long enough Labour will transform the country…< tumbleweed literally> do you even believe this? It’s quite tragic.

Littlemissgobby · 26/11/2024 13:35

I said this before on here do you now want to claim that it was a rigged election like donald trump. Funny when brexit happened the same people signing that petition were so outraged when reformers wanted another go as it was based on lies

Littlemissgobby · 26/11/2024 13:34

TheLimeHedgehog · 26/11/2024 11:48

Well at least after that very intolerant little spat I know to ignore everything else you have to say. Here is a tip for you stop insulting others with views you don't agree and debate like a civilised adult (preferably in coherent english) it might get you somewhere.

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So not jump on me then you haven't read the info before. I have debated very well on this post but no you think you are high and mighty.

Littlemissgobby · 26/11/2024 13:32

TheLimeHedgehog · 26/11/2024 11:48

Well at least after that very intolerant little spat I know to ignore everything else you have to say. Here is a tip for you stop insulting others with views you don't agree and debate like a civilised adult (preferably in coherent english) it might get you somewhere.

Edited

I got insulted first

Littlemissgobby · 26/11/2024 13:31

senua · 26/11/2024 10:39

Whereas Littlemissgobby is sweetness and light personified. Grin

I am actually thanks lol lol

JusteanBiscuits · 26/11/2024 13:29

PandoraSox · 26/11/2024 13:26

I was wondering that.

Most people who voted Labour are sensible enough to realise that meaningful change will take years.

Edited

Indeed. And that sadly, some harsh decisions will need to be taken.

I didn't vote labour, but I am pleased to have a prime minister who isn't afraid of making the hard decisions rather than only being focused on their 'optics' and future media career.

PandoraSox · 26/11/2024 13:26

JusteanBiscuits · 26/11/2024 13:20

Which money tree was that?

I was wondering that.

Most people who voted Labour are sensible enough to realise that meaningful change will take years.

DuncinToffee · 26/11/2024 13:26

JusteanBiscuits · 26/11/2024 13:20

Which money tree was that?

The same tree they expect them to cut the magic wand from

JusteanBiscuits · 26/11/2024 13:20

Artistbythewater · 26/11/2024 13:17

Well the Labour money tree that they promised didn’t materialise- funny that. Now people are pissed off, they voted for change and got kicked in the nuts. Even the ‘nasty’ tories wouldn’t allow poor pensioners to freeze half to death in their own homes!!! It’s obscene.

So yeah not surprised the public are turning against them en masse.

Which money tree was that?

Artistbythewater · 26/11/2024 13:17

Well the Labour money tree that they promised didn’t materialise- funny that. Now people are pissed off, they voted for change and got kicked in the nuts. Even the ‘nasty’ tories wouldn’t allow poor pensioners to freeze half to death in their own homes!!! It’s obscene.

So yeah not surprised the public are turning against them en masse.

App13 · 26/11/2024 12:47

I believe in Democracy and its only fair Labour get their chance after 14 yrs.

But this petition is a great gauge for KS and RR to know how much they're appreciated.

Lyannaa · 26/11/2024 12:02

localnotail · 26/11/2024 11:37

I said it once, I say it again. Stop being sore losers and get on with it. We had much worse than inheritace tax raise (boohoo) and no one died.

This petition is laughable and embarrassing, and is hugely beneficial to the likes of Musk and Putin. No one in this country would benefit from this idiotic suggestion - and what would you get instead of Labour? Elitist greedy incompetent Tories? Nazi Farage? What?

This talk, as well as labour bashing, is purely to create a division and unrest. Most likely whipped up by troll crap on social media and in right wing press.

Edited

It is partly in response to people seeing America decide to elect a criminal. They think they could turn the UK into a lawless shithole too...

TheLimeHedgehog · 26/11/2024 11:48

Littlemissgobby · 26/11/2024 10:32

Really also maybe i shpukd say conservative voters and reform are heartless bigoted cxnts

Well at least after that very intolerant little spat I know to ignore everything else you have to say. Here is a tip for you stop insulting others with views you don't agree and debate like a civilised adult (preferably in coherent english) it might get you somewhere.

localnotail · 26/11/2024 11:37

I said it once, I say it again. Stop being sore losers and get on with it. We had much worse than inheritace tax raise (boohoo) and no one died.

This petition is laughable and embarrassing, and is hugely beneficial to the likes of Musk and Putin. No one in this country would benefit from this idiotic suggestion - and what would you get instead of Labour? Elitist greedy incompetent Tories? Nazi Farage? What?

This talk, as well as labour bashing, is purely to create a division and unrest. Most likely whipped up by troll crap on social media and in right wing press.

EasternStandard · 26/11/2024 11:29

JusteanBiscuits · 26/11/2024 11:22

So you're not suggesting that Labour make up their own figures, but the Tories don't? Just asking for clarification.

I think my post was clear but I'll quote

I'm referring to many posts that link to figures in Blair's gov on here for Labour supporters

That extra debt, and higher taxes plus lower growth will be what can be linked, not figures from a couple of decades ago.

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