Call a General Election? Really?

Plenty of peeps voted labour in for change. Give them a chance to scratch the surface of the mess they took on and start repairing it.
I wonder how many labour voters are now regreting their vote and possibly signing this petition?
Get over it, it's here and we have to get on with it the best we can.
Fwiw I don't vote because none of the parties speak for me and I have no faith in any politician to do the right thing as they all seem to think about themselves.

I think most people realise that the UK is in a dire state, now you can make excuses for that, Brexit/Covid and Ukraine but that doesn't alter the economics.

the root cause of why some taxes have gone up is due to Jeremy Hunt cutting NI by 4% and not budgeting for public sector pay rises... he left it to the next Govt to sort out.
Then there was the PO and Blood compensation pay outs, all not budgeted for.

If you disagree with that, please explain where the OBR's est of £10billion per year, on going, tax take reduction was going to come from?

Thats £50billion over the the parliamentary term.

CBI now bitching about NI, ok so where does that £7 billion now come from? or what would you cut?

I note the CBI never called for business to pass on savings made to the consumer, after the extension of capital investment relief in Nov 2023.... its all one way.

It's a bit bonkers isn't it? I mean I'm not keen on some of the things Labour are doing - cancelling winter fuel allowance for anyone on an income of £12,000 per year or more (should have been around £30,000 IMO. And the tax on farms if it's worth more than £1 million.

But insisting we have another General Election is farcical. They've only been in 4 months! I've seen a few people on Twitter/X banging on about it - right wing people - saying 'get Labour out/Starmer is a twat etc,' but the Conservatives weren't any better. They robbed the disabled and the poor, and almost destroyed the NHS. (I do feel for the farmers though, and I don't agree with what they're doing there.)

Starmer said (some months back) 'decisions are going to be made that are not going to be popular.'

No Government is ever going to be without criticism, and every Government is going to do things that piss some people off.

As the old saying goes 'you can't please all of the people all of the time.'

True dat!

But that wasn't what the PP you quoted said. Entirely different context.

So they’re too thick to have the vote, then, if they haven’t thought through what the result might be.

Destabilising Western democracy.

With a British petition?

I think people just want Labour to stop causing harm

The petition site itself has the data on where signatures are coming from.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143.json

Who would the people signing this petition want to win? The Tories? Farage’s lot? Or some mythical new party formed entirely of properly competent people?

It’s pathetic isn’t it. And really disappointing to see so many people hoodwinked by Musk and Russia. Demoralising.

Most people* I know think they're doing a grand old job*

What kind of jobs do they have? Is it more public sector?

He's not doing badly in the States.

Same. They’re doing what they can to fix 14 years of the terrible tories who got worse and worse. They’re not perfect for sure but definitely better than who they took over from.

I doubt Putin will de-stabilise western democracy through the medium of an orderly British petition.

No there isn’t, well there is only if you listen to the drivel spewed forth from the likes of Farage, Geebeebies etc.

Fortunately the vast majority of the country aren’t that daft, and appreciate that any meaningful improvement to the state of the country will take a fair time, effort and money. Certainly not a few months.

Labour can't fix all the problems the Tories caused over the last 14 years. Even the old idea that the Conservatives are good with the economy turned out to be a lie.

We have broken public services and a big deficit. No magic wand will fix it. I'm getting impacted by the VAT policy and that's ok with me. I'd rather have that than the Tory plan to keep blaming disabled people and punishing them.

Most people
I know think they're doing a grand old job 🤷🏻‍♀️

OP, was there a reason you linked to the petition?

It's a fast turnaround for a new gov, losing the lead so quickly

To a petition

Not great for Labour, although they'll trundle on. It'll be interesting to see in a year what's going on with public spending

A mixture of both perhaps!

Labour only won the election back in July because they were the only option that weren’t the Tories. Of course the signs were there .. and there was absolutely nothing in their manifesto as to what they were going to do once they were in power. It was all about ‘ vote for change ‘ and Starmer going on about how his Dad was a toolmaker.
Now of course people are seeing what they are all about and it is much much worse than they thought.

A couple

They'll get there

See page one of this debate even another person has screen shot from outside Britain yes you can't find the data

The problem is we’ve been sold a lemon
listened to years of bitching and false promises

there an almighty undercurrent of disappointment

have not RTFT but basically: you lost, suck it up

The "2nd Brexit referendum petition" got over 3 million signatures, i think?
There will be a new election by 2029, until then? lobby your MPs on things, follow the processes