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To find this so cringeworthy?

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Bpuss · 25/11/2024 07:29

(I realise using the word cringeworthy is a bit cringeworthy in itself, but here we are...)

Literally posting this so I don't end up telling him what I'm thinking!

I've been seeing a guy off and on for a year and he's a lovely person, but keeps coming out with things that just make me die a little inside.

The latest one is he went to the cinema with his friends last night to see Wicked.
He has this habit of messaging me after he's seen a film to let me know how he found it and the message last night read "It had greatest showman vibes, and the hallmarks of a classic". I almost, almost... replied with a bunch of laughy faces and told him to stop talking like a dick but I thought I should try and be kind so I just said something about being glad he likes it.

But I've never heard anyone in real life use the phrase "hallmarks of a classic" to describe a film, let alone something like Wicked?!

He also uses the word belly for his stomach...

I like him, but omg I cringe so hard sometimes at his choice of words!

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TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 21:00

GoldsolesLugs · 09/12/2024 20:12

Yeah, I know you're trolling me, but I'm not raging despite your continued engagement hence 3/10

I don't think was me sea-lionning rather than agreeing to differ.

Edit: should it be just one 'n' in lioning?

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 20:46

RenoDakota · 09/12/2024 20:28

Christ, this is absolute peak Mumsnet.
Many threads degenerate into randoms arguing amongst themselves about nothing to do with the original subject, but this one just keeps on going!

TBF, the OP was pretty random!

RenoDakota · 09/12/2024 20:28

Christ, this is absolute peak Mumsnet.
Many threads degenerate into randoms arguing amongst themselves about nothing to do with the original subject, but this one just keeps on going!

GoldsolesLugs · 09/12/2024 20:12

Yeah, I know you're trolling me, but I'm not raging despite your continued engagement hence 3/10

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 18:19

GoldsolesLugs · 09/12/2024 18:05

3/10

That's not fair; why doesn't everyone else on the thread get marks?

BTW, have you seen the Internet Sea-lion cartoon?

GoldsolesLugs · 09/12/2024 18:05

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 17:59

Might do.

3/10

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 17:59

GoldsolesLugs · 09/12/2024 16:27

So your reaction to this simple question wouldn't include getting passive-aggressively defensive, claiming that you're being bullied and bringing up sexuality? Interesting.

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Might do.

GoldsolesLugs · 09/12/2024 16:27

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 12:29

I'll answer that because it is a sort of meta-question. But if you had asked me why I wouldn't have been attracted I would have simply ignored the question.

So your reaction to this simple question wouldn't include getting passive-aggressively defensive, claiming that you're being bullied and bringing up sexuality? Interesting.

rewilded · 09/12/2024 15:08

I have just watched Wicked! It was bloody fantastic - it definitely has all the hallmarks of a classic! Grin...I mean everyone was clapping and cheering when it finished!

NoIdeaWhatsHappeningHere · 09/12/2024 13:17

God people who declare they don't like musicals (and even worse, that men should not like musicals) are SO FUCKING TEDIOUS.

To me it's like saying you don't like songs, or books, or TV. You don't have to like all of it but to dismiss a whole category of entertainment is just closing yourself off. Do that with your life if you wish, but don't look down on others who embrace it.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 12:29

GoldsolesLugs · 09/12/2024 11:59

Of course, you don't owe me anything. What would your response be if I were to ask you why you wouldn't be attracted?

I'll answer that because it is a sort of meta-question. But if you had asked me why I wouldn't have been attracted I would have simply ignored the question.

GoldsolesLugs · 09/12/2024 11:59

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 00:13

I wouldn't be attracted to anyone who went to church every Sunday either. But you will get no explanation/justification from me - nor should you expect any.

Of course, you don't owe me anything. What would your response be if I were to ask you why you wouldn't be attracted?

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 10:29

What’s your take on puppet shows? Any strong feelings either way?

Yes, actually.

ThisAquaCrow · 09/12/2024 08:24

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 00:13

I wouldn't be attracted to anyone who went to church every Sunday either. But you will get no explanation/justification from me - nor should you expect any.

What’s your take on puppet shows? Any strong feelings either way?

TriesNotToBeCynical · 09/12/2024 00:13

GoldsolesLugs · 08/12/2024 23:39

Oh come on, it's a discussion forum. People might ask you why you hold an opinion. The rage that @TheMamaLife flew into was really odd - it seems like a nerve was touched.
You know this though. You don't like musical adaptations of fantasy so you say enjoyment of it wouldn't be a plus point in a potential partner. Sure, that makes sense - they'd enjoy movies that you wouldn't, which would make it more difficult to agree what to watch on Netflix, but would it really be a deal breaker in a potential partner?

I wouldn't be attracted to anyone who went to church every Sunday either. But you will get no explanation/justification from me - nor should you expect any.

GoldsolesLugs · 08/12/2024 23:39

TriesNotToBeCynical · 08/12/2024 20:37

It's self-evidently a personal prejudice! Who could possibly say why they don't like a particular kind of person? That's ridiculous.

Oh come on, it's a discussion forum. People might ask you why you hold an opinion. The rage that @TheMamaLife flew into was really odd - it seems like a nerve was touched.
You know this though. You don't like musical adaptations of fantasy so you say enjoyment of it wouldn't be a plus point in a potential partner. Sure, that makes sense - they'd enjoy movies that you wouldn't, which would make it more difficult to agree what to watch on Netflix, but would it really be a deal breaker in a potential partner?

TriesNotToBeCynical · 08/12/2024 20:37

GoldsolesLugs · 08/12/2024 20:25

No, read the thread. This thread is essentially a discussion about whether wicked-liking men are fuckable. Some people think yes, some no. That's all fine. However it's a discussion forum so people will ask you why you hold your opinion. She continued to engage, despite being unwilling to answer this question. People got frustrated and she started accusing them of bullying.

It's self-evidently a personal prejudice! Who could possibly say why they don't like a particular kind of person? That's ridiculous.

GoldsolesLugs · 08/12/2024 20:25

TriesNotToBeCynical · 08/12/2024 19:29

I think @TheMamaLife has been treated abominably. Ok, her very first post could have been interpreted as casting aspersions on men who liked fantasy musicals, but she immediately denied that was her intention and should have been taken at her word.
For the record, I think all Hollywood interpretation of fantasy tends to cringeworthy and musical interpretations doubly so. But that isn't because I want to be particularly masculine, just because I like fantasy literature. Enjoying musicals definitely wouldn't be a plus point in a partner, regardless of sex, gender etc.

No, read the thread. This thread is essentially a discussion about whether wicked-liking men are fuckable. Some people think yes, some no. That's all fine. However it's a discussion forum so people will ask you why you hold your opinion. She continued to engage, despite being unwilling to answer this question. People got frustrated and she started accusing them of bullying.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 08/12/2024 19:29

GoldsolesLugs · 08/12/2024 17:49

@TheMamaLife I'm not forcing anything on anyone - I think you should date who you like. Bringing consent into it is shameful and minimises real consent violations.

"You're not letting this go" I had stopped thinking about it until your thread bump. You've written more about it than any other individual poster and apparently have been stewing on it for 9 days. The phrase "rent free" comes to mind.

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I think @TheMamaLife has been treated abominably. Ok, her very first post could have been interpreted as casting aspersions on men who liked fantasy musicals, but she immediately denied that was her intention and should have been taken at her word.
For the record, I think all Hollywood interpretation of fantasy tends to cringeworthy and musical interpretations doubly so. But that isn't because I want to be particularly masculine, just because I like fantasy literature. Enjoying musicals definitely wouldn't be a plus point in a partner, regardless of sex, gender etc.

GoldsolesLugs · 08/12/2024 17:49

@TheMamaLife I'm not forcing anything on anyone - I think you should date who you like. Bringing consent into it is shameful and minimises real consent violations.

"You're not letting this go" I had stopped thinking about it until your thread bump. You've written more about it than any other individual poster and apparently have been stewing on it for 9 days. The phrase "rent free" comes to mind.

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:55

Fuck me.. I came to mums net for tips on breast feeding and thought I’d stay for the general chit chat… didn’t know that it’s actually dominated by such nasty people who are just lurking about waiting to pounce on people. It’s so fucking toxic.

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:51

ThisAquaCrow · 08/12/2024 15:41

Not letting it go? Says somebody who comes back to a dead thread 9 days later 😂

i had a bit of time and thought I’d look at my notifications.. is that okay??

and if you’ve let go, does this mean you’re okay with my thinking differently to you now??

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:50

TofuTart · 29/11/2024 11:38

@TheMamaLife
You’re all asking or insinuating stupid and unfair things. I’ve said that I find a man who is overly enthusiastic about Wicked “cringey” in the context of a relationship. Thats it. What’s the big deal??

Sorry, but no you didn't. You're the one who brought sexuality into it, that you're straight so wouldn't fancy a man who enjoyed watching a musical. Insinuating yourself that it's gay for a man to watch one or something.
That's why you're getting so many questions, as people are like "huh, wait, what?!" lol

I didn’t bring sexuality into it.. OP did because it’s a thread about something “cringey” in a relationship.

And I don’t know any straight men who choose to watch musicals, with other straight men, with no women/ children around. I’ve not done an in depth survey, but yeah, let’s not be politically correct to the point that we are just being blind, - it’s common knowledge that gay men are more fond of musicals than straight..

Anyway, I’ve told my gay 22 year old nephew, and non-binary 18 year old niece-phew (that’s how they want me to refer to them) about this thread and the reactions I’m getting, and they both agree that agree that most of you are all just straight white -apologists who are desperate to appear woke, but in reality are oppressive with both eyes shut right - like the equivalent to “green-washing” corporations. This is what they say happens when old farts try to be woke.

ThisAquaCrow · 08/12/2024 15:41

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:36

So what if that is what I thought? You don’t have a right to force your opinion / taste in a partner on me. There’s name for situations where a woman is forced to have a relationship she doesn’t consent to.

You’re not letting this go. Please stop forcing your preference on me. I’ve not done that here with my preference.

You think you’re being so open and woke, but you realise you’re actually being oppressive, whereas my “each to their own” mentality is more woke then you probably can comprehend.

Not letting it go? Says somebody who comes back to a dead thread 9 days later 😂

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:40

GoldsolesLugs · 29/11/2024 11:06

It's cos you won't come out and say why you don't like musical-loving men. I would guess that you think it's non-masculine to like musicals ("your view of a male partner in a relationship may be a little less traditionally than mine"). What does "traditional" mean here? Then you say "I didn’t bring up masculinity, you lot did". If you just came out and said that you like to date men who are into traditionally masculine things (which musicals aren't) then I don't think you'd get anywhere near as many responses.

And for the record, I’ve not said it’s “non-masculine” not have I alluded to that as I’ve said I’m not keen on girlfriends either who are into musicals.

Please fuck off.. I’m allowed to not be into musicals.

You might like musicals - bully for you! I don’t. Why is that a problem for you?? Why can’t you get on with your life?? Why do you feel you have to force your preferences / taste on people who don’t agree with you? Stop being a musical-nazi!

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