Page 3 | To think that people with extreme political views shouldn’t be allowed to vote?

Bixterret · 26/11/2024 06:29

EdgyEagle · 24/11/2024 21:36

Far-left and far-right ideologies are tearing society apart. Should we limit the influence of extremists?

You're obviously having a laugh.

OnlyHerefortheBiscuits · 26/11/2024 06:28

EdgyEagle · 24/11/2024 21:45

People here asking me to define what I mean as if we don’t know what “extremist” means. I have also alluded to far-left and far-right.

Only one person so far has commented with a bit of sense and a somewhat normal comment instead of asking stupidness like “define extreme” and “are you saying people who disagree with us shouldn’t vote”. Come off it.

You can't see that you're demonstrating precisely why your idea cannot be rolled out.

"Only one person so far has commented with a bit of sense "

You've already descended into "anyone who disagrees with me is stupid".

YellowAsteroid · 26/11/2024 06:23

GretaSweettoothScourge · 25/11/2024 21:24

true but then its also not a democracy when its voters voting on soundbites etc

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You have a very odd understanding of defining democracy. There’s no definition which includes telling people on what information they may base their vote.

GretaSweettoothScourge · 25/11/2024 21:24

TheFlyingHorse · 25/11/2024 19:44

So what happens when the political pendulum shifts, as it always does, and yours are the views that are considered extremist OP? Would you be happy to give up your right to vote?

I have quite a lot of reservations about democracy as the electorate is manipulated by those who control information sources but that's a different argument. You can't have some people with the right to vote and some who don't - that's not democracy.

true but then its also not a democracy when its voters voting on soundbites etc

Thevelvelletes · 25/11/2024 20:24

How would you police what people think?.
Outwardly I could be the most liberal person going but inwardly be a raging nazi fucker, how would you stop me voting?

Elsvieta · 25/11/2024 20:12

Didn't know Donald Trump was on MN.

TheFlyingHorse · 25/11/2024 19:44

So what happens when the political pendulum shifts, as it always does, and yours are the views that are considered extremist OP? Would you be happy to give up your right to vote?

I have quite a lot of reservations about democracy as the electorate is manipulated by those who control information sources but that's a different argument. You can't have some people with the right to vote and some who don't - that's not democracy.

Errors · 25/11/2024 19:18

Thank you OP, I needed this thread. Best laugh I have had in a while!
Also, I think this is the first time on the history of MN that everyone has agreed on a thread about politics!!! That made me smile. No doubt replies are from both left and right leaning people and they’re all in agreement.
Was that your aim, OP? To unite MN on a political view? It so, well-played.

Zapx · 25/11/2024 18:56

GoldsolesLugs · 25/11/2024 18:47

Surely an "extreme" view is one that not many people have (otherwise it would be a mainstream view), in which case stopping them from voting will change nothing.
Also, massive issues re: democracy but that's been covered already.

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Is that true globally or just in the country they’re in do you reckon? E.g. Hitler had some extreme views, yet won elections. Did that make his views non-extremist? I’d argue extremist views can become mainstream, tragically, but that they are still extreme? It’s a weird one.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 25/11/2024 18:51

FOJN · 24/11/2024 23:00

A beret? You're on a watch list for sure. 🤣

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I shall be joining the Tooting Popular Front forthwith!

Will Count Binface be deemed "extreme"?

Lifeglowup · 25/11/2024 18:48

Hateam · 24/11/2024 21:39

There are many problems with this.

Can you define extreme please?

Anyone who thinks differently to the OP or whoever is in charge.

GoldsolesLugs · 25/11/2024 18:47

Surely an "extreme" view is one that not many people have (otherwise it would be a mainstream view), in which case stopping them from voting will change nothing.
Also, massive issues re: democracy but that's been covered already.

thistimelastweek · 25/11/2024 18:44

Didn't say it was my view.

batsandeggs · 25/11/2024 18:32

That’s quite an extreme view. Are you happy to be banned from voting?

Thought not.

thistimelastweek · 25/11/2024 18:31

My husband thinks stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote...

ImpatienceOfASaint · 25/11/2024 18:26

I would argue removing and restricting people’s right to vote is an extreme political view in itself…

Spideyplants · 25/11/2024 18:20

Spouts a true modern day leftie!!!!

whereaw · 25/11/2024 14:37

I don't agree with your extreme views myself, but I still think you should be able to vote

RedToothBrush · 25/11/2024 11:30

silentpool · 25/11/2024 00:24

I find it so interesting that people who consider themselves progressive are the most narrow minded and controlling of all.

OP, you may not like this but people are entitled to their opinions - you are welcome to disagree with them but you don't get to disenfranchise them.

It's a really revealing irony isn't it?!

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/11/2024 09:00

BaklavaRocks · 25/11/2024 08:01

Eh? Of course they should be allowed to vote! I might not agree with the far right, but we are all entitled to our political beliefs and the rise of extreme political views should be a warning to current governments that something is going wrong which they need to change.

Extremism is usually born from oppression or disadvantage in someway. If we want to rid society of extremists, then we need to reduce inequality and improve access to opportunity for all.

It is not a coincidence that the far right of this country, members of EDL etc. are predominantly white working class males. White working class boys are also the group most failed in educational settings and who have the poorest educational outcomes. The two go hand in hand and it's the responsibility of government to change that!

You can't just ban people from voting because you don't like their views!

And yet, regardless of this fact, you’re not allowed to help these poor kids because it’s ‘racist’. They should just be hung out to dry it seems.
https://www.bbc.com/news/education-50947271
The only acceptable approach for white people these days seems to be self-loathing, which is pretty extremist IMO. No wonder there is so much anger about.
This government will do nothing about it except demonise them further, as we’ve seen with their ‘far right’ slurs.

Top schools defend rejecting bursary for white boys

Winchester and Dulwich colleges decline an offer of scholarships for disadvantaged white boys.

https://www.bbc.com/news/education-50947271

Animatron · 25/11/2024 08:44

Without the vote, will the extremist give up and go home? Or will they seek another way to make their views heard?

This childish cancelling of people doesn't work. They cancelled Trump. Look how successful that was.

We must engage with people and hear their views, or they will forcibly make them known. We must include everyone in our society. There is nothing as dangerous as growing the ranks of the dispossessed and the disenfranchised.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 25/11/2024 08:19

Deadhouseplant · 24/11/2024 21:41

Are you suggesting we do away with democracy?

Looks like it.

Moonlightstars · 25/11/2024 08:18

ByMerryKoala · 24/11/2024 21:42

The appetite for authoritarian policies is off the chart on this site at the moment.

I think the vote here shows it's really not by the majority.

Port1aCastis · 25/11/2024 08:17

You cannot stop people exercising their democratic right to vote. We live in a democracy not a dictatorship however you are sounding like an extremist yourself OP

Clearinguptheclutter · 25/11/2024 08:06

Of course not, but we need to get a lot better at tackling the extremism as it’s clearly here to stay