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to think boarding schools are no longer ok...

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BaklavaRocks · 24/11/2024 21:11

Inspired by another thread, and some old YouTube documentaries I've recently watched, I can't help but feel boarding schools for under 13's (i.e. boarding prep schools) have had their time.

Maybe they used to be an acceptable option, but with all the research we now have available, showing the damage done by separation of young children from their parents, do you think boarding for v young kids (8/9/10/11) will eventually be banned except in v exceptional circumstances?

And if our politicians including past PMs like Johnson and Cameron were not a product of boarding schools, do you think they'd have more compassion and be less cut off from emotion and feelings? and better able to relate to us common folk?

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MidnightPatrol · 24/11/2024 22:13

Silvan · 24/11/2024 21:34

I agree that full time childcare for babies and very small children is a weird blind spot we (as a society) have, particularly how up in arms people are about boarding school. But I suspect it's one of those issues that is too big to blow up because of the ramifications.

Babies and small children typically (entirely?) aren’t in childcare for entire terms, overnight?

PermanentTemporary · 24/11/2024 22:12

I've seen it work brilliantly for sixth form. It can be OK from 13 up. 11-13 is such a gamble. Below that, you must be mad, and although it's increasingly rare it does still happen.

My dad boarded at 6 and imo remained emotionally 6 years old his whole life. My late dh who died by suicide boarded from 8.

I spent some time yesterday reading the Makin report on the sadistic abuser John Smyth. Not that abusers can't exist anywhere but it gave a very clear view of just how toxic the belief can be that boarding schools represent something elite, instead of something that may be the only option but that is intrinsically risky for children. He could never have groomed and abused such a high number of boys and young men in a different type of school.

BaklavaRocks · 24/11/2024 22:12

Cazziebo · 24/11/2024 22:10

I was one of the "remote Scottish island" kids who had to board @mitogoshigg. I loved it. It was almost like living in a Mallory Towers book (without the posh folks!)

I guess because of the circumstances it was pretty natural - there was no option so I never felt that I was "sent away". I had a much better social life as a teenager because I was away from home, and had much more opportunity to study than I would in a 3 bedroom house with 4 siblings and a grandparent. Excellent school with superb pastoral care.

I did Sunday - Friday (although quite often had sleepovers with friends at weekends). Pupils from the more remote islands didn't get home at all during term time.

I don't think boarding school is always a bad experience.

That's really nice to hear :)

Were you under 12 when you boarded?

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mauvish · 24/11/2024 22:11

I was desperate to go to boarding school from about the age of 10. My parents told me years later that they discussed putting me in for a scholarship/bursary (couldn't have afforded it otherwise, and I was a pretty bright kid so may well have succeeded) but decided against it.

The reason I wanted to go was because I was desperately unhappy at home. I still wonder if life would have been better if I'd gone, I couldn't have ended up any unhappier!

I've known lots of people who boarded. I had a friend at uni who boarded because both his parents had died, and he had no other family in the UK. I know someone else who says that boarding school was the one saving grace of her childhood years, as she was there with her sisters and it was an escape from a badly disrupting and disruptive homelife; it gave them all sanctuary and stability which they didn't otherwise have.

But these people were older. Like almost everyone else, I cannot imagine sending a small child to live away from home.

Eyresandgraces · 24/11/2024 22:11

I was a day pupil at a girls school which had full boarding.
I envied the boarders, my home life was chaotic and the boarders always had their homework done on time, were fed properly and had a camaraderie that I would have loved.
My opinion from talking to men and women is that girls mostly enjoy boarding and boys don’t.
Obviously not scientific at all.

TENSsion · 24/11/2024 22:11

pubsafety · 24/11/2024 21:57

There was an awful documentary about Norland nannies - at the time they had a hotel for babies and younger children.
There was a 2nd birthday party for a child whose parents were away on business, one of the nannies was in tears - she'd helped host the 1st birthday as well.

Earlier I was chatting to someone about Old Etonians in film:

Damian Lewis
Hugh Laurie
Eddie Redmayne
Tom Hiddleston
Dominic West

is there something that early abandonment helps with?

Most successful actors went to private school when you start looking.

I was shocked and quite saddened. Even Nicola Walker!

Yesiknowdear · 24/11/2024 22:11

TBH I don't understand why anyone would have a child and make that decision for them, however it takes all sorts to make the world go around and I'm sure that people who make that decision would hate the decisions I make with my kids too.

Cakeandusername · 24/11/2024 22:10

I had a relative board from secondary school age. Her mum had died and her dad worked in a dangerous 3rd world country and I don’t think had immigration status to live/work in uk. I suppose alternative would have been foster care.
I know someone else who needed specialist education (school for deaf) realistically there can’t be local specialist provision accessible to all areas especially if rural.
Flexi boarding also seemed a sensible option for a classmate of my dc. She had a single parent mum who needed to travel internationally for work sometimes. Before moving to private she was left with elderly and infirm grandparents who couldn’t take her to school or activities.
So I’d say always be circumstances where it may be needed.

Cazziebo · 24/11/2024 22:10

I was one of the "remote Scottish island" kids who had to board @mitogoshigg. I loved it. It was almost like living in a Mallory Towers book (without the posh folks!)

I guess because of the circumstances it was pretty natural - there was no option so I never felt that I was "sent away". I had a much better social life as a teenager because I was away from home, and had much more opportunity to study than I would in a 3 bedroom house with 4 siblings and a grandparent. Excellent school with superb pastoral care.

I did Sunday - Friday (although quite often had sleepovers with friends at weekends). Pupils from the more remote islands didn't get home at all during term time.

I don't think boarding school is always a bad experience.

Liv999 · 24/11/2024 22:09

CitizenZ · 24/11/2024 21:33

Boarding School is absolutely disgusting. If your child craves it, it's because their home life is shit.

This in a nutshell

SapphireSeptember · 24/11/2024 22:08

@Silvan and @pizzapizzadaddio I have my theories about that! Currently trying to figure out if I can even afford to go back to work after maternity leave myself. Doubtful at the moment. But to be honest I don't want to send my baby to nursery. He's still too little for that. I think it's dreadful we expecte mums to leave their little babies with strangers.

GiddyRobin · 24/11/2024 22:07

I'd never do it. I think it's detrimental to their mental health. I've known a few boarders and they all claim their issues go back to boarding. It's bizarre to me. Why have kids just to send them away?

BaklavaRocks · 24/11/2024 22:07

RhaenysRocks · 24/11/2024 21:59

@BaklavaRocks I'm both. Mine don't board because my circumstances don't require it. I will absolutely agree that it's not for everyone and isn't usually 'better" than home, but I do also have experience of children who board due to very fragmented home situations and find more stability and guidance there than they otherwise would.

Thanks @RhaenysRocks

Yeah, I can see if there is already fragmentation and difficulty at home, boarding school might be helpful.

From a stable loving home though, I don't think I can imagine boarding being better (and I certainly know it would rip my heart out to see my children separated from me at 8/9/10/11..)

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Strokethefurrywall · 24/11/2024 22:06

I live on an island where a large number of kids board mostly in UK. Mine are 13 & 9 now and we'd only send them to board if they excelled in something that the education here couldn't offer (small Caribbean island).
That being said, I don't think either of my boys would want to go, but may change their minds at 14-15 years or so.
I have no opinion on it for teens but I personally couldn't have sent either of my kids before double digit age.

Caplin · 24/11/2024 22:05

I used to feel negatively about boarding school, I had friends who had clearly been sent off to give the parents an easier life and the parents wouldn’t let them home at weekends.

But my kids went to a school which had a small boarding facility (now closed). It was used by parents who were doctors on night shift, or in the forces, or farmers who lived too far away to commute to school daily or from smaller Scottish Islands which didn’t have a high school. Also, I almost got sent when my dad was posted overseas in my high school years. In the end my mum stayed home and we saw my Dad every other weekend.

So I wouldn’t choose it for my kids, but I can see why people might have to.

Labraradabrador · 24/11/2024 22:05

It isn’t what I would choose for my children, BUT I think there are a number of circumstances where it is the best for the child - military families, foreign service, children with special musical or athletic abilities, etc.

I would also push back on the idea that it is an offloading of parenting - boarding schools work on compressed schedules so there is much more time off school. It shifts parents time for little and often to more regular longer 1:1 time. If I were still in my old job that required extensive travel the boarding cadence could work quite well and leave us with more family time - otherwise I would be relying on wrap around and nannies quite extensively.

I also think flexi boarding is a bit of a game changer. We aren’t in secondary yet, but looking ahead the possibility of flexi boarding is quite attractive for us and dc and would be best of both worlds. We would still see dc on a weekly basis, but for a couple nights a week (when they would have an early start and/or a late finish) the ability to sleep over at school is both fun for the kids and also a massive help to the schedule. I know some older children who have a 6:30am start and a 6pm+ finish depending on sports/extracurriculars, so they are just home to sleep and eat - saving the commute and staying at school makes a lot of sense.

BaklavaRocks · 24/11/2024 22:04

DrunkTinkerbell40s · 24/11/2024 22:00

I went to boarding school! From age 10-16. I absolutely loved it. I'm in my 40s and the girls I was at boarding school with are like my family. Honestly, it was a sleepover with my best friends every day. I loved it!

That sounds great fun! :)

If it's ok to ask (don't answer if not), how are your relationships now? Stable partner?

Would you let your children (if you have them) board at age 10?

Did you miss you mum and dad when you were away from them at 10? Are you close? Were you close?

Was it all positive or anything that was less so?

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RedToothBrush · 24/11/2024 22:03

sprigatito · 24/11/2024 21:33

Rachel Johnson got bundled off at 8 to the same abusive prep school as Boris, a school that didn't even take girls, because Stanley Johnson persuaded the headmaster to take them as a package deal. Stanley didn't even bother to visit the place first, he said there was no need as they had a perfectly good record of getting boys into Eton. That school is now closed after multiple sexual abuse scandals, not to mention beating the kids with golf clubs. I think it's both desperately sad and depressingly unsurprising that Rachel has chosen to send her own children away.

Why wouldn't Rachel Johnson send her kids away? She has no idea how to parent because she never experienced parenting from her parents.

ChristmasCarnage · 24/11/2024 22:02

I absolutely adored boarding school. I wasn’t escaping an unhappy home life, and I'm not remotely emotionally stunted as an adult. BUT I didn’t go until I was 13, and it was my choice. I went to a school quite far from home so was a full boarder, and honestly had the best time of my life, and was incredibly happy, but would I have coped as well, and been as well adjusted if I’d gone at 7 or 8? Absolutely not. I think I’d have been absolutely miserable!

Switcher · 24/11/2024 22:01

Depends on so many things - the school, the child, the circumstances. Many younger children can thrive, while older children can find it hard.why is everybody constantly desperate to ban everything?

mitogoshigg · 24/11/2024 22:01

@Pigeonqueen

Plenty of parents do need to board their children from 11 because there's no local secondary in state boarding schools. Smaller Scottish islands in particular often don't have post 11 education

BaklavaRocks · 24/11/2024 22:01

pubsafety · 24/11/2024 21:57

There was an awful documentary about Norland nannies - at the time they had a hotel for babies and younger children.
There was a 2nd birthday party for a child whose parents were away on business, one of the nannies was in tears - she'd helped host the 1st birthday as well.

Earlier I was chatting to someone about Old Etonians in film:

Damian Lewis
Hugh Laurie
Eddie Redmayne
Tom Hiddleston
Dominic West

is there something that early abandonment helps with?

I think it helps people to suppress emotion which means you can keep making tough decisions in life without being impacted emotionally. You can hurt people and be hurt without feeling it. You can learn to be independent and not rely on others or trust in others or care about others.

This can lead to great things (being PM or a CEO) but it can also cause problems in relationships (Boris had how many kids and how many partners?) and cause big problems for others (austerity, Brexit, etc......) .....

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DelurkingAJ · 24/11/2024 22:00

I went weekly boarding at 16 and class those two years as some of the very best fun of my life.

I wouldn’t dream of sending DSs pre-16. The older I get the more I note that the boys I know who boarded from even 13 are (on the whole) the ones who don’t seem to form long-term relationships. (I do wonder though about correlation rather than causation…do the kind of parents who in the 80s sent prep school boys (always the boys!) off to board perhaps overlap with the more distant kind of parent?!)

DrunkTinkerbell40s · 24/11/2024 22:00

I went to boarding school! From age 10-16. I absolutely loved it. I'm in my 40s and the girls I was at boarding school with are like my family. Honestly, it was a sleepover with my best friends every day. I loved it!

LilacLilyBird · 24/11/2024 22:00

Lots if boarding schools will be fine

Others not

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