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smalltroll · 24/11/2024 15:46

Hi all,

Me and dh no longer have sex. We have been married a while and have two primary age children. I know the lack of sex is not something dh is happy with but he doesn't often initiate anyway these days.

The problem is, I have made it clear to him that the lack of any physical touch and emotional connection outside of the bedroom is what has killed my sex drive but nothing changes.

I understand that people have different love languages, and dh does things for me such as acts of service, but he doesn't bother with me for days then all of a sudden becomes interested in me, it's very off putting and makes me feel used. There will be no kisses or hugs, no chats etc then on the day he wants sex, all of a sudden he's touching my bum or something.

When I bring this up he says that I don't initiate any physical contact either, which is true, but I don't then expect sex or suddenly start showing an interest one day knowing that's where I want it to lead.

I don't feel I can be physically affectionate outside the bedroom because any touch leads to dh thinking that we are going to have sex.

I have no idea what a healthy relationship looks like as I have no reference from childhood. We are good together in all other aspects of life. Is this fixable?

OP posts:
GiddyRobin · 24/11/2024 18:40

Triedandbroken · 24/11/2024 18:38

@shuggles, I take emotional connection to mean feeling cared about and loved. That your partner is interested in your day, listens to your worries and supports you.

Ignore this one, it's another baiting post. They know fine well what it means. Don't waste energy.

Fucking hell, something in the MN waters lately.

Triedandbroken · 24/11/2024 18:38

@shuggles, I take emotional connection to mean feeling cared about and loved. That your partner is interested in your day, listens to your worries and supports you.

Askingforafriendtoday · 24/11/2024 18:36

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 15:52

Women ask men to be emotional when they really don’t have empathy like us. Nobody wants to accept this though.

On the days he is affectionate non sexually, reward with sex. On the days he gives you the creeps, no sex. Train him like a dog.

Misandry, weird, horrid, inaccurate, and insulting to men, women and dogs

shuggles · 24/11/2024 18:36

@smalltroll What on earth is "emotional connection"?

Triedandbroken · 24/11/2024 18:33

I don’t agree that things are always fixable. What happens if you have sex after having a conversation about general intimacy and emotional connection and the partner doesn’t change? I’ve had numerous conversations with my DH about how I’m overwhelmed, emotionally wrung out and I just need a bit more help but nothing changes so I don’t feel like sex. He in turn then becomes very cold and ignores me even more. Some men don’t want to change.

Blueeyedmale · 24/11/2024 18:32

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 24/11/2024 18:30

Your apology is accepted, now off you pop.

Thank you but I'm still happy to contribute my opinions until the admin tell me otherwise enjoy the rest of your evening

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 18:31

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 24/11/2024 18:29

I am gen x. Hmm

👍🏻

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 24/11/2024 18:31

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 18:30

OP tried, multiple times

In that case, he's a lost cause and she's better off single.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 24/11/2024 18:30

Blueeyedmale · 24/11/2024 18:29

Sorry I must have missed the warning when it said female replies only by the OP I do sincerely apologise for missing that

Your apology is accepted, now off you pop.

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 18:30

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 24/11/2024 18:27

No idea. I guess you'd never know...until you have a conversation about it!

OP tried, multiple times

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 24/11/2024 18:29

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 18:18

You wouldn’t ’want’ to, but you might ‘have’ to.

Sorry, am I in an alternative reality where people aren’t trapped in marriages for various reasons?

This place could be so much better with more gen x, millennials and z. It’s changing 😊

I am gen x. Hmm

ChocolateTelephone · 24/11/2024 18:29

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 15:52

Women ask men to be emotional when they really don’t have empathy like us. Nobody wants to accept this though.

On the days he is affectionate non sexually, reward with sex. On the days he gives you the creeps, no sex. Train him like a dog.

Absolutely batshit nonsense.

OP - yes, it’s fixable. You need a couples therapist specialising in sex and relationships. An impartial third party can help you both communicate your needs and move you into a space where you both feel you’re getting what you want and need from the relationship.

Blueeyedmale · 24/11/2024 18:29

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 24/11/2024 18:28

No men muscling in on female conversation is creepy. There IS a dadsnet.

Sorry I must have missed the warning when it said female replies only by the OP I do sincerely apologise for missing that

GettingThemFromHereToThere · 24/11/2024 18:28

Of course it's fixable. It's like with any relationship; whether that's with family or friends, things are rarely perfect and often need work and better communication.

Try increasing your physical affection towards him. Let him know you're not looking for sex but want to start having more hugs. Build it up.

But also, having sex often increases the intimacy outside the bedroom, at least I've found. So perhaps up the sex and see if it leads to more touch.

Just like animals settle into routines, as do most humans. No sex leads to less intimacy. The only way to kickstart it is to make a change.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 24/11/2024 18:28

Blueeyedmale · 24/11/2024 18:24

That's your opinion but mumnet is for parents by parents im a parent so I use this site so by your definition being a parent is creepy?

No men muscling in on female conversation is creepy. There IS a dadsnet.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 24/11/2024 18:27

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 17:01

I’m assuming he wasn’t like this before. Did he forget how to behave like a husband and now needs clear instructions to function as one?

No idea. I guess you'd never know...until you have a conversation about it!

Aberentian · 24/11/2024 18:25

@Blueeyedmale we all know it's not really for men. Can't keep them out but a lot of us prefer threads where they don't show up. They've got the rest of the bloody world.

Blueeyedmale · 24/11/2024 18:24

Em1ly2023 · 24/11/2024 18:02

Why do men have to muscle in on Mumsnet? It’s creepy…

That's your opinion but mumnet is for parents by parents im a parent so I use this site so by your definition being a parent is creepy?

EllieRosesMammy · 24/11/2024 18:23

Did you used to be flirty outside the bedroom at one point in the relationship or is this something that has never happened?

My husband and I are naturally flirty with eachother (not just when we want sex just on a daily basis). Or we will give eachother a hug or a kiss through the day, or even a hand hold or foot rub. But it's not something either of us really think about doing it just comes naturally.

You have young children, do you ever spend any time just you and him? Date night or anything like that? It's really important to make time for yourselves as a couple💜 we have 3 children who are 7, 3 & 2 (plus im 32 weeks pregnant) but we still try to make time for eachother. It doesn't have to be a thing of quantity either, as long as its quality x

GiddyRobin · 24/11/2024 18:19

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 18:18

You wouldn’t ’want’ to, but you might ‘have’ to.

Sorry, am I in an alternative reality where people aren’t trapped in marriages for various reasons?

This place could be so much better with more gen x, millennials and z. It’s changing 😊

🤢

OP, best of luck. Please don't listen to nonsense like this. You're worth so much more than humiliating sex to train someone, and falling into being equally manipulative won't make you feel better.

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 18:18

Julie168 · 24/11/2024 17:52

Why would you want to train a toxic man? Nothing about that is normal or healthy.

You wouldn’t ’want’ to, but you might ‘have’ to.

Sorry, am I in an alternative reality where people aren’t trapped in marriages for various reasons?

This place could be so much better with more gen x, millennials and z. It’s changing 😊

onwardsup4 · 24/11/2024 18:17

I think the training him poster has a point, it's obviously not training like a dog but men are different to women it's a fact. Giving him positive feedback/ interaction when he's acting how she likes will encourage him to be like this more in the future.
I'm sure OP has had this conversation that posters are so helpfully suggesting she has with her husband.

turbonerd · 24/11/2024 18:17

Have only read page 1, but in a way I agree with @Bangwam1 (edited cause I got the name wrong)
With my ex there was no communication and he only hugged me (pestered really, and then worse) when he wanted sex. Communication was impossible with him. It was like banging my head against a brick wall.
If you are there OP you really need to prepare to separate.

In a loving relationship you have these conversations without stress or guilt. It was such a revelation with my now DH. We can hug and cuddle without it leading to sex. Even if one of us is hoping it will lead to sex but the other one is not up for it, it is fine. Then we just cuddle and don’t have sex.
We actually have sex a lot more frequently (and enjoyably) because we both know we can also change our minds if the fancy then takes us, and no one will be playing stupid mind games.

Bangwam1 · 24/11/2024 18:11

I didn’t derail her thread, I actually think it’s a success. It perhaps never occurred to her that a man could play games like this. Women have too much empathy.

She mentioned several things which stood out to me as manipulative. Behaviours that toxic men play out.

The reaction to my comment about men lacking empathy and being similar to dogs and in need of training 🐶🗞️😄

I’ll stop. OP best wishes. You’re worth being loved, without transaction. Realise it today 💖

canyouletthedogoutplease · 24/11/2024 18:11

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