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To hate that he locks the door when we're home

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LotteryFights · 24/11/2024 11:34

Our front door is always locked as it goes straight onto the road & we never use it. Instead we use the backdoor was goes out to the garden and then through the garden gate onto a side road where the car is parked.

H is highly anxious. For example every single morning without fail he messages me saying 'drop off ok?' (I drop the kids off before I go to work) and i have to write 'yes' or he'll call me and i'll be in meetings and he calls and calls.

When he leaves the house at the weekend and me and DC (primary school) are home, we are in the back room/snug thing which is where the back door is and he will leave by this door and then use his key to lock the back door from the outside. Of course I'm not locked in as I can just unlock it but it's so weird to me. We are home, watching telly or playing and he is outside locking us in. If I wanted to lock the back door while we were at home - i could do it.

And then when he comes back and it's unlocked as i've popped into garden - he will ask why it's unlocked. He's not angry but he's geniunely expecting a response - and I find myself explaining myself to him like a kid!

He think I'm the weird one and he's keeping us safe. I makes me uncomfortable - which he says is my issue.

AIBU to feel hate it?

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Fairislesweater · 27/11/2024 19:42

Having read your updates I refer back to my earlier comment about this being controlling behaviour. If my DH locked the back door while I was literally sitting there I would think he had lost it.

Cm19841 · 26/11/2024 11:27

Sometimes it is a combination of many things for it to come too much.

I don't agree with leaving the back door unlocked. But the pushy behaviour of the husband as he locks it to show he will impose what he wants on the household (when he is going out!) is not acceptable.

Likewise, the need to text back or you will be bombarded with phone calls is unacceptable to me. If it was just to the door locking, perhaps it would be a compromise. But all together, it seems OP has valid concerns about her independence and autonomy in the relationship.

I would tackle the texting and phone calls first by telling partner you do not want this going forward and explicitly say you do not like this level of codependency and it is going to stop.

taxguru · 26/11/2024 11:08

DrZaraCarmichael · 26/11/2024 09:49

In my opinion it’s similar to using a seatbelt in your car.

Well no, because that is a legal reqiurement.

Even when it wasn't, lots of people still used seat belts!

And even now it's a legal requirement, a fair proportion of people still don't wear them or only put them on half way down the street.

Tiswa · 26/11/2024 10:15

CantHaveTooMuchChocolate · 25/11/2024 23:55

I live in a supposedly good area, and would never have imagined this would happen here either. It’s also happened to several neighbours (one actually had their front door kicked in when they were in asleep). I think with the police and prison cuts, col crisis things are unlikely to improve either.

In my opinion it’s similar to using a seatbelt in your car. The chances of something happening may be small, but the consequences can be terrible.

See I think that is exactly where the whole risk assessment has gone wrong on this thread because it isn’t the same as a seat belt. The vast majority of us will have an incident where the seat belt is needed - even if it is making a sudden stop - a fair number of times. The number that experience people coming into their house when they are their (and this isn’t about empty house burglaries is it because it is locking when IN the house) is much lower

DrZaraCarmichael · 26/11/2024 09:49

In my opinion it’s similar to using a seatbelt in your car.

Well no, because that is a legal reqiurement.

CantHaveTooMuchChocolate · 25/11/2024 23:55

DrZaraCarmichael · 24/11/2024 12:50

And this has never happened to me in 15 years of living here, or any of my neighbours, or any of my local friends.

It's about risk assessment, isn't it. OP's husband is very very risk averse and perceives that leaving the door unlocked is a massive risk, even when OP is in, and sitting 1m from the door. Then chastises her like a child when she doesn't agree to his risk assessment. Her risk assessment is that the risk of an intruder coming in is not high, given her personal situation/circumstances, location of house, environment, etc etc etc. But her opinion is dismissed by her husband, who insists he's right, she's wrong and scolds her for not doing what he tells her to do.

Not healthy.

I live in a supposedly good area, and would never have imagined this would happen here either. It’s also happened to several neighbours (one actually had their front door kicked in when they were in asleep). I think with the police and prison cuts, col crisis things are unlikely to improve either.

In my opinion it’s similar to using a seatbelt in your car. The chances of something happening may be small, but the consequences can be terrible.

Jarstastic · 25/11/2024 12:59

I lock all doors. Especially when I’m home alone. When we moved into our current house if the front door wasn’t locked it could just be opened by anyone. We had the adjustment made so it needs a key to open even if it isn’t locked. It isn’t technically locked it’s just latch (ie wouldn’t be covered by insurance if someone forced it) but door cant just be opened randomly. That’s ok for when we are in (we would get alerted by Ring if someone at front door) but we do all lock if everyone out. We also replaced our outdoor lights with Ring lights.

However, your DH does sound like he has a high anxiety levels on keeping his family safe. The ringing you with drop off etc is crossing the line from anxiety to controlling. Maybe just text more often to reassure him. But if it continues he could do with some help.

Goldengirl123 · 25/11/2024 09:32

Sounds like he has OCD

Brefugee · 25/11/2024 09:28

LotteryFights · 25/11/2024 08:53

you're going to tell me i'm being dramatic - but the back door is small bifold doors and goes from the snug/kitchen diner onto the garden. So i'm sitting at the table in the snug which is in touching distance from the door and looking at my husband the other side of the glass - locking each lock, smiling at me. I find it genuinely disconcerting. I have told him not to do it - but there is always a reason - it's windy today, it's easier for him to do it, it's not a big deal etc.

i would unlock it as soon as he steps away. Smiling at him while you do it

Wellingtonspie · 25/11/2024 09:25

Yeah that gives creepy hostage type vibes tbh

user1467300911 · 25/11/2024 09:21

What would happen if you wrenched the keys from his hands and shouted at him to go and to leave you the fuck alone?

How would he react? Would he be shocked? Is he trying to provoke a confrontation? Is it a power struggle?

SushiWrap · 25/11/2024 09:19

How are things generally, op? Is it just this issue or others?

TheSandgroper · 25/11/2024 09:19

I have had another read. Would it now be him deliberately upsetting you (and he knows because you have told him more than once) but now he is taking active pleasure in rubbing your face in it?

If so, umm, that’s getting pretty horrible in a relationship.

user1467300911 · 25/11/2024 09:18

That’s gross, creepy and controlling behaviour. If he doesn’t respect your wishes, or make plans to tackle his anxiety if that’s what is driving it, plan to leave him.

TheSandgroper · 25/11/2024 09:14

@LotteryFights I have followed your thread as I am in much the same boat. Now he has moved into the realm of creepy. Now I would be thinking of my own next move.

It’s getting pretty horrible now.

LotteryFights · 25/11/2024 08:53

you're going to tell me i'm being dramatic - but the back door is small bifold doors and goes from the snug/kitchen diner onto the garden. So i'm sitting at the table in the snug which is in touching distance from the door and looking at my husband the other side of the glass - locking each lock, smiling at me. I find it genuinely disconcerting. I have told him not to do it - but there is always a reason - it's windy today, it's easier for him to do it, it's not a big deal etc.

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Brefugee · 25/11/2024 08:04

If he goes for a walk, OP leaves door unlocked, someone steals the car keys near the door and makes off with his car - insurance won't cover it as door unlocked.

I HAVE NOT said that locking or unlocking the doors isn't an issue, but the mistake is hers to make as an adult.
His job isn't to scold her like a child. In her shoes i'd be doing it to annoy him.

The door locking is a distraction - his behaviour and anxiety is the issue.

ETA: if it is summer, your kids are in the garden and you are in and out hanging out washing and taking out drinks etc etc, the liklihood of an opportunist thief getting in and nicking your microwave are quite low. Never zero but so bloody low as to make it batshit to lock the door.

Also: kids in garden, door locked. Kid gets caught up in the hose and is being strangled - and you are losing seconds unlocking the door? (that will give those with anxiety something else to worry about so sorry for that but really. Some of these replies are batshit)

We are all adults and we must be allowed to manage our own risk. And for sure, in a lot of places (unfortunately) locking the door is a necessary precaution. But treating your wife like a child and nagging her because of your own anxiety? not an adult move.

Wellingtonspie · 25/11/2024 08:00

LotteryFights · 24/11/2024 23:06

@HowcanIhelp123 .you put a work bag on the back seat to ensure you remember your kid is also in the back? Is forgetting the work bag not more likely than forgetting the kid?

It’s something they actually recommend in hot countries / America due to the fact a lot of children get forgotten in the back of the car, parent on auto pilot to work. A lot get lucky and just need treatment for heat and dehydration issues.

Others as we see online die because mum normally drops off and today was dad and he forgot, or mum was in a rush baby was asleep so silent and forgot, or the other parent loaded the child in and the driving parent forgot it was their turn to drop off.

Where as grabbing your handbag or work laptop or whatever is something that even if you forget you’ll need during the day and go back for. Where as if you’ve forgotten your kid unless daycare calls you won’t release till you go to collect your child and by then it can be far too late.

SapphireSeptember · 25/11/2024 05:23

So nobody here leaves the back door unlocked/open while their kids are in the garden? Seriously? That's what it's boiling down to here. OP and the kids are in and out, but her husband wants the back door locked at all times. That's ridiculous! Maybe I should have told off my friend when I was staying there in the summer as her back door was left wide open all day for air flow.

CoffeeAndPeanuts · 25/11/2024 00:48

LotteryFights · 24/11/2024 11:42

Mmm...Maybe @AnonKat if we both did it/felt that it wouldn't feel so weird to me.

In the summer - the back door is open to the garden & the kids run in and out the garden/house and he's always closing it and locking it. It makes me feel stifled. He says i'm dramatic but i hate it!

That would drive me insane! Actually it wouldn't because I wouldn't put up with it!!

having the back door unlocked when you're in & out of the back garden is normal! Of course you and the kids are in & out and as long as the garden is secure so they can't get out into the side risd then no I wouldn't lock the back door.

when you're actually in the snug there is NO NEED to infantilise you & lock the door. FGS. It would be different if you were in a front room & he was going out the back.

my front door opens into the living area of the house and it's actually physically open from the minute I'm up until the minute I go to bed (in summer) or get too cold (in winter). I shut it when I go in the shower or when I'm spending time in one of the bedrooms, but not if I'm in & out of the other rooms.

CoffeeAndPeanuts · 25/11/2024 00:30

LauraNorda · 24/11/2024 11:44

Our front door always gets locked, even when we are in. The back is left unlocked (when we are in) but the back gate is locked and difficult to climb over.

Don't be so sure.

Have you seen any police chasing suspects?? These kids/young men go through gardens quicker than Peter Rabbit & his pals.

years ago I was looking after a child & his parents had this ridiculous system of going in one door, but out the other. Anyway I forget all the details but I couldn't unlock the front door (after going to some activity) but hoped the back door would be ok, but the gate was locked (🙄🙄) anyway, the baby was crying for his lunch, parents miles away... but this young bloke pulled up in a van & I asked if he could do me a favour & explained. He said no problem & I thought he must have a ladder/steps etc but no he just leapt at the fence, one hand on top & over (it was very hot actually. Impressive) seconds!!

MzHz · 25/11/2024 00:02

<sigh> are you me @LotteryFights

ha ha ha

i live at the end of a 200M drive in the middle of chuffing nowhere, automated gates and cc-CHUFFING-tv covers the drive

The numbers of times I pop to the shops or whatever and come back and the fucking back door is locked. Does my bloody head in.

yanbu.

Isatis · 25/11/2024 00:01

Have you ever tried saying you will no longer respond to his text inquiries about the school drop-off, and he must just assume it was fine unless you tell him otherwise?

mambojambodothetango · 24/11/2024 23:54

I would absolutely hate this OP. How dare he make a gesture that implies he thinks you belong inside.

Tiswa · 24/11/2024 23:52

LotteryFights · 24/11/2024 23:04

I have empathy for people struggling with anxiety and of course some of these stories about home invasions etc are beyond awful.

But I refuse to accept it as normal or tolerable to be checked up all the time. I take the kids 5 mins to school. My kids are fine at drop off. It is uneventful. My garden is enclosed and v quiet, and I'm a 40 year old woman who can establish how often I need to lock it when pottering around with the kids

Ppl going round checking up on each other the whole time?? Its exhausting.

It isn’t and you need to push back on this - living with anxiety is hard and he will make the kids anxious and take it from me that is hard

you can live by letting anxiety and fear dictate your life, you can’t live by what might happen

@HowcanIhelp123 woth respect your anxiety levels and coping mechanisms do not sound normal

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