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Daughter getting fat in school

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joey197860 · 24/11/2024 07:49

Teenage daughter has gained 22kg in new boarding school. No medical explanation for it and she's very happy, wrll integrated and academically excelling. School has a shop on site and girls have access to kitchen in the evenings. Daughter had major surgery last year and specifically should not eat sugar loaded food. What am I to do? I want to pull her from the school at the end of this term. The school is absolutely no help when I discussed this with them.

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Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 20:15

twistyizzy · 24/11/2024 20:05

You said NO monetary value! I said scholarships are low monetary value ie 5%-15%. The links you have posted support my assertion of low monetary value with the exception of Eton + another who are £0

Winchester and Eton have NO monetary value. Nor does Benenden / Kings Canterbury and many many others. St Paul’s girls has removed scholarships altogether. You can keep arguing, but again - I attended one of these schools with a 50% scholarship, which was in parallel with other top schools. This is no longer, and that is fact. Do some research - even where you find there are 5% awards etc, this is a joke compared to what a scholarship used to mean. The purpose is now as I described - for honour / prestige, or as some might see it - arrogance.

chaosmaker · 24/11/2024 20:14

joey197860 · 24/11/2024 08:33

I could send her to day school. No pocket money and healthy packed lunches. I servecmy children home made healthy meals, plenty if fruit available for snacks and the occasional home made cake. There is no shortage of healthy food at home.

Fruit is full of sugar, your body doesn't know the difference between healthy and unhealthy sugars

twistyizzy · 24/11/2024 20:05

Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 20:02

https://www.etoncollege.com/admissions/scholarships-and-awards/s/

https://www.winchestercollege.org/admissions/election

https://www.wycombeabbey.com/admissions/#scholarships

As I said in my original post it’s the big cheese public schools removing value. Here is an example of just two I’ve bothered to search. Wycombe Abbey girls makes clear also that their scholarships carry “prestige but limited financial value” - ie up to 5% fees.

https://www.wycombeabbey.com/admissions/#scholarships

I could add many more links (including the ones we came across - which were not these). Again, as I said, a world away from when I was at school. Hard to deny that this is scandalous considering scholarships were a way of attracting talent to a school, which in turn reflected well on the school. Now it’s a totally one way street - we’ll take your talent and you’ll still pay - but get to gloat. Anyway - won’t derail the thread further.

You said NO monetary value! I said scholarships are low monetary value ie 5%-15%. The links you have posted support my assertion of low monetary value with the exception of Eton + another who are £0

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 20:04

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 19:55

I did red it properly.A medical professional has said it isn't 🤷‍♀️

A school doctor who is most likely a visiting GP unfamiliar with DD’s history. Why else would OP be taking her DD to visit her own GP to get to the bottom of it. Hopefully she will get a referral back to the original consultant for a review.

Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 20:02

twistyizzy · 24/11/2024 19:55

Not just my area, most of the top public schools also offer fee reduction via Scholarships. Maybe you're just in an outlier area.

https://www.etoncollege.com/admissions/scholarships-and-awards/s/

https://www.winchestercollege.org/admissions/election

https://www.wycombeabbey.com/admissions/#scholarships

As I said in my original post it’s the big cheese public schools removing value. Here is an example of just two I’ve bothered to search. Wycombe Abbey girls makes clear also that their scholarships carry “prestige but limited financial value” - ie up to 5% fees.

https://www.wycombeabbey.com/admissions/#scholarships

I could add many more links (including the ones we came across - which were not these). Again, as I said, a world away from when I was at school. Hard to deny that this is scandalous considering scholarships were a way of attracting talent to a school, which in turn reflected well on the school. Now it’s a totally one way street - we’ll take your talent and you’ll still pay - but get to gloat. Anyway - won’t derail the thread further.

Scholarships and Awards - Eton College

Scholarships differ from bursaries, which are means-tested awards given to help support families who wouldn’t...

https://www.etoncollege.com/admissions/scholarships-and-awards

Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 20:01

https://www.etoncollege.com/admissions/scholarships-and-awards/s/

https://www.winchestercollege.org/admissions/election

https://www.wycombeabbey.com/admissions/#scholarships

As I said in my original post it’s the big cheese public schools removing value. Here is an example of just two I’ve bothered to search. Wycombe Abbey girls makes clear also that their scholarships carry “prestige but limited financial value” - ie up to 5% fees.

https://www.wycombeabbey.com/admissions/#scholarships

I could add many more links (including the ones we came across - which were not these). Again, as I said, a world away from when I was at school. Hard to deny that this is scandalous considering scholarships were a way of attracting talent to a school, which in turn reflected well on the school. Now it’s a totally one way street - we’ll take your talent and you’ll still pay - but get to gloat. Anyway - won’t derail the thread further.

Scholarships and Awards - Eton College

Scholarships differ from bursaries, which are means-tested awards given to help support families who wouldn’t...

https://www.etoncollege.com/admissions/scholarships-and-awards

Bellyblueboy · 24/11/2024 19:58

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 19:51

OP hasn’t said how old her DD is, beyond saying she’s a teenager. That could be as young as 13, so it may have been a shock when that poster suggested birth control.

I think her daughter is 14 or 15.

However the ‘type of girl’ comment is uncalled for.

all she needed to say was she is comfortable that her daughter isn’t sexually active. No need to evoke terminology from a bygone era used to shame women and girls.

NancyJoan · 24/11/2024 19:57

Worth ruling out any medical factors, of course, but if the weight gain bothers her, she needs to manage her food intake. That’s a lot of weight to put on in a few months, suggests more that a few treats from the shop/kitchen. Disordered eating is easy to hide at boarding schools.

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 19:55

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 19:50

Read the thread properly. The school doctor said the cause wasn’t medical, not the childs’ or OP’s own doctor. DD had surgery recently to remove a hormone related tumour which is likely the explanation for the sudden rapid weight gain, not overeating. OP is taking her DD back to the GP and hopefully will be re-referred to the original specialist who treated DD to check that all is well. That’s the most sensible starting point given the recent medical history, rather than assuming she’s miserable and over eating.

I did red it properly.A medical professional has said it isn't 🤷‍♀️

twistyizzy · 24/11/2024 19:55

Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 19:52

I’m glad that’s the case in your area!

Not just my area, most of the top public schools also offer fee reduction via Scholarships. Maybe you're just in an outlier area.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 19:53

No posts from OP since midday. What’s the betting she’s not coming back. Can’t say as I blame her.

Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 19:52

twistyizzy · 24/11/2024 19:43

Each indy school is different but in our area ie County, every indy school offers a scholarship up to the value of between 5-15%. Yes they are more for bragging rights than monetary value but a quick search shows that every indy school in a 50 mile radius offers a fee reduction with their scholarships

I’m glad that’s the case in your area!

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 19:51

Bellyblueboy · 24/11/2024 19:47

Can you explain what you mean by that?

OP hasn’t said how old her DD is, beyond saying she’s a teenager. That could be as young as 13, so it may have been a shock when that poster suggested birth control.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 19:50

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 19:45

Happy people do not pile on three and a half stone in three months which according to doctor isn't medical.

Three and a half lbs ? Maybe but no that is a huge amount of weight and would be a significant impact on her body and health.

Read the thread properly. The school doctor said the cause wasn’t medical, not the childs’ or OP’s own doctor. DD had surgery recently to remove a hormone related tumour which is likely the explanation for the sudden rapid weight gain, not overeating. OP is taking her DD back to the GP and hopefully will be re-referred to the original specialist who treated DD to check that all is well. That’s the most sensible starting point given the recent medical history, rather than assuming she’s miserable and over eating.

rookiemere · 24/11/2024 19:49

LifeExperience · 24/11/2024 19:34

If she had a tumor that could have affected her hormones that is probably your answer. 100% of weight gain or loss is determined by the complex interplay of hormones. Among other things, hormones determine 100% of appetite. Take her to an endocrinologist and figure out what is really going on. If they close the kitchen and she's starving because of a hormonal imbalance, she will get food elsewhere. Stop blaming the school and look for the real problem.

This sounds very sensible. It's a huge amount of weight to gain in so short a time even if she was eating loads of junk every day, so it does seem likely to be linked with her medical history.

Bellyblueboy · 24/11/2024 19:47

joey197860 · 24/11/2024 08:06

Good God, no! She's not that type of girl.

Can you explain what you mean by that?

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 19:45

Zestylemo · 24/11/2024 19:43

Rubbish

Happy people do not pile on three and a half stone in three months which according to doctor isn't medical.

Three and a half lbs ? Maybe but no that is a huge amount of weight and would be a significant impact on her body and health.

twistyizzy · 24/11/2024 19:43

Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 19:38

Sorry, that’s incorrect - since I’ve just been through the application process with my child where the vast majority of scholarships are worth nothing. Bursaries are a different matter - but you basically have to prove much lower income than would actually cause struggle with fees.

Each indy school is different but in our area ie County, every indy school offers a scholarship up to the value of between 5-15%. Yes they are more for bragging rights than monetary value but a quick search shows that every indy school in a 50 mile radius offers a fee reduction with their scholarships

Zestylemo · 24/11/2024 19:43

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 07:59

She is not happy, happy teens don't eat three and a half stone on.

Rubbish

JustBec · 24/11/2024 19:42

I’m not prying into the type of operation or tumour but if it was anything pituitary related, could she have developed Cushings? Or thyroid or something? These types of tumours can really mess about with hormones and thus weight.
*I’m not medical but had tests for this sort of thing and was cushingoid due to a combination of meds I was on.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 19:42

Westofeasttoday · 24/11/2024 19:34

Okay thanks that helps and makes sense. I didn’t realise that boarding schools were full
of children from rich disabled single mothers. I thought it was rich people who couldn’t be asked.

Boarding schools are not full of children from rich disabled single mothers. There’s no indication that OP is rich. If she’s disabled and there’s a significant reason that her child/ren would be better served by boarding school, there are bursaries available specifically targeted at those who would otherwise be unable to afford it. If you have a look at the posts by @StormingBurt as they can explain it better than I can. I was involved in supporting disabled parents whose children had received bursaries in certain circumstances and only have a basic understanding that they are provided in certain circumstances where families would benefit but are unable to afford the fees.

Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 19:39

Westofeasttoday · 24/11/2024 19:34

Okay thanks that helps and makes sense. I didn’t realise that boarding schools were full
of children from rich disabled single mothers. I thought it was rich people who couldn’t be asked.

Please could someone point out where the OP says she’s disabled? I’ve just been back through her posts again and cannot find where this has come up?

Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 19:38

twistyizzy · 24/11/2024 19:36

Sorry that's incorrect. Scholarships, whilst usually a lower % ie 5-15% and linked to academic/sport/music achievements, do have a monetary value. Bursaries are the ones which are means tested and usually are 20-100% of fees

Sorry, that’s incorrect - since I’ve just been through the application process with my child where the vast majority of scholarships are worth nothing. Bursaries are a different matter - but you basically have to prove much lower income than would actually cause struggle with fees.

twistyizzy · 24/11/2024 19:36

Herewegoagain84 · 24/11/2024 19:33

Unfortunately the vast majority of scholarships at major public schools now have no monetary value, and they are for the “honour” (eg arrogance) of having one. When I was at school they awarded up to 50% fees for academic / music / other talent. I have no idea why this has changed - but the idea seems to have mostly gone.

Sorry that's incorrect. Scholarships, whilst usually a lower % ie 5-15% and linked to academic/sport/music achievements, do have a monetary value. Bursaries are the ones which are means tested and usually are 20-100% of fees