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Daughter getting fat in school

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joey197860 · 24/11/2024 07:49

Teenage daughter has gained 22kg in new boarding school. No medical explanation for it and she's very happy, wrll integrated and academically excelling. School has a shop on site and girls have access to kitchen in the evenings. Daughter had major surgery last year and specifically should not eat sugar loaded food. What am I to do? I want to pull her from the school at the end of this term. The school is absolutely no help when I discussed this with them.

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WinkingJadeEye · 25/11/2024 09:45

EveryCarelessWord · 25/11/2024 09:40

You're describing very disordered eating. To some extent having a disordered relationship with food is completely normalised in our diet-obsessed culture so we don't always realise when it's happening, and a lot of us were taught to practice harmful habits in pursuit of thinness and it damaged our minds and bodies. It is terrifyingly easy to get caught up in a binge-restrict cycle and for that to escalate dangerously. It's important to recognise it for what it is and how common it is.

I have no idea if any of this applies to the OP's daughter, however, in her case the tumour history is obviously a big red flag and the cause might be physical rather than mental. But a 3.5 stone gain in four months is not something to blame on greed or a lack of self control; it's very concerning and points to something significant going on beyond enjoying a bit of junk food.

Is there a cure for this ? I am on drugs for the P COS which has caused me thyroid issues and deficiencies with vitamins and also diabetes in the past (I'm just pre diabetic now) but it hasn't taken away the mental health sense of compulsion . I've self harmed since a child and I wonder if this is an extension of that ?

EveryCarelessWord · 25/11/2024 09:40

WinkingJadeEye · 25/11/2024 09:31

The hormone thing is so hard isn't it ! I remember as a teenager i would stuff myself with loads of junk alone in my room, I was always going out to buy more and more chocolate . I would often spend hours just grazing and grazing . It was like a weird kind of compulsion . I felt out of control doing it. I was diagnosed with a hormone disorder (PCOS) in my 20s but I had shown full blown symptoms since age 16. Perhaps all the gorging I did was a an early symptom, although PCOS doesn't develop in early childhood and come to think of it I remember as a young child I would steal food and gorge on it in secret . I would eat until I was stuffed. And as a teenager I would try and throw up from eating so much as I felt out of control and was always on a diet of some sort to counteract all the weight I was gaining.

You're describing very disordered eating. To some extent having a disordered relationship with food is completely normalised in our diet-obsessed culture so we don't always realise when it's happening, and a lot of us were taught to practice harmful habits in pursuit of thinness and it damaged our minds and bodies. It is terrifyingly easy to get caught up in a binge-restrict cycle and for that to escalate dangerously. It's important to recognise it for what it is and how common it is.

I have no idea if any of this applies to the OP's daughter, however, in her case the tumour history is obviously a big red flag and the cause might be physical rather than mental. But a 3.5 stone gain in four months is not something to blame on greed or a lack of self control; it's very concerning and points to something significant going on beyond enjoying a bit of junk food.

WinkingJadeEye · 25/11/2024 09:31

EveryCarelessWord · 25/11/2024 09:20

It can develop as a response to restriction - a history of dieting or food deprivation can be contributing factors. It can be a response to feeling out of control of your life or worthless, it can be a desire to numb painful emotions with food, it might spring up out of having a lot of shame and guilt associated with food or certain types of food and there could also be contributory physical or hormonal factors.

The hormone thing is so hard isn't it ! I remember as a teenager i would stuff myself with loads of junk alone in my room, I was always going out to buy more and more chocolate . I would often spend hours just grazing and grazing . It was like a weird kind of compulsion . I felt out of control doing it. I was diagnosed with a hormone disorder (PCOS) in my 20s but I had shown full blown symptoms since age 16. Perhaps all the gorging I did was a an early symptom, although PCOS doesn't develop in early childhood and come to think of it I remember as a young child I would steal food and gorge on it in secret . I would eat until I was stuffed. And as a teenager I would try and throw up from eating so much as I felt out of control and was always on a diet of some sort to counteract all the weight I was gaining.

Marblesbackagain · 25/11/2024 09:30

As a person who worked in the are for a decade, you are wrong. Disordered eating takes many forms.

EveryCarelessWord · 25/11/2024 09:20

WinkingJadeEye · 25/11/2024 09:18

Ah, so basically overeating very often and quite a lot? I wonder if that could be caused by a hormone imbalance like a pituitary tumour?

It can develop as a response to restriction - a history of dieting or food deprivation can be contributing factors. It can be a response to feeling out of control of your life or worthless, it can be a desire to numb painful emotions with food, it might spring up out of having a lot of shame and guilt associated with food or certain types of food and there could also be contributory physical or hormonal factors.

WinkingJadeEye · 25/11/2024 09:18

EveryCarelessWord · 25/11/2024 09:14

Binge eating disorder is - as you can tell by the name! - an eating disorder and does not necessarily involve purging. It's serious and harmful and very difficult to manage.

Ah, so basically overeating very often and quite a lot? I wonder if that could be caused by a hormone imbalance like a pituitary tumour?

sunights · 25/11/2024 09:16

You send her sugar free sweets - maybe a weekly postal order?

EveryCarelessWord · 25/11/2024 09:14

WinkingJadeEye · 25/11/2024 09:01

Disordered eating would be if she was throwing up or using laxatives after a pig out. She could be I suppose without the OP knowing.

It could be this, quite normal for hormonal teenagers to enjoy a bit of pigging out and quite common for them to engage in the occasional purge, but if that becomes a habit and is done often then that's potentially harmful.

Binge eating disorder is - as you can tell by the name! - an eating disorder and does not necessarily involve purging. It's serious and harmful and very difficult to manage.

WinkingJadeEye · 25/11/2024 09:01

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 21:09

No it is not. What you are describing is disordered eating.

Disordered eating would be if she was throwing up or using laxatives after a pig out. She could be I suppose without the OP knowing.

It could be this, quite normal for hormonal teenagers to enjoy a bit of pigging out and quite common for them to engage in the occasional purge, but if that becomes a habit and is done often then that's potentially harmful.

MarvelJesus · 25/11/2024 09:00

Rosscameasdoody · 25/11/2024 08:43

How on earth have you managed to reach that conclusion ? OP has given absolutely no detail about the surgery other than it was to remove a tumour. It could have been absolutely anything hormone related, including pituitary.

The OP has a previous thread about her daughter’s surgery.

Rosscameasdoody · 25/11/2024 08:55

chaosmaker · 24/11/2024 21:20

tropical fruits are the highest but you are correct on the berries and cherries.

Post DH’s diagnosis, I’m pretty much an expert on the sugar and carb content of most things now 😇

Rosscameasdoody · 25/11/2024 08:51

Cerealkiller4U · 24/11/2024 21:23

This poster has gone. If anyone knows her could you please get her to contact me.

You can contact her yourself by private message. Just go to the top right hand of the page and click on your account icon, then click on private message. But she left the thread some time ago so don’t expect a reply.

Rosscameasdoody · 25/11/2024 08:45

ConstanceM · 24/11/2024 23:00

Go to bed Cyborg!

I think it’s you who needs sleep !!

Rosscameasdoody · 25/11/2024 08:43

user44221 · 24/11/2024 22:05

From reading the thread, it appears to have been a large benign ovarian cyst, with a large incision, resulting in the loss of an ovary

How on earth have you managed to reach that conclusion ? OP has given absolutely no detail about the surgery other than it was to remove a tumour. It could have been absolutely anything hormone related, including pituitary.

StormingBurt · 25/11/2024 08:04

Cyb3rg4l · 24/11/2024 21:33

It is almost half a century since ES attended school. I think we can agree the world has changed a lot in that time. It is clear to me you have little to no experience of what a modern boarding education looks like and appear to be dredging up historic experiences to shore up your personal distaste for people who choose to spend their money on their child’s education. Which is weird.

Hear, hear.
Exactly.

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/11/2024 02:41

Cerealkiller4U · 24/11/2024 21:21

I work with hormones. Please contact me.

Maybe she would respond to a private message?

Cyb3rg4l · 24/11/2024 23:34

LindtCurves · 24/11/2024 20:27

Somthing similar happened to me. How old is she?

Reasons why it happened to me... I had an eating disorder prior (did a 'skinny' sport and then gave it up) and then I started eating 'like other girls' and that really hit me. I was also quite stressed, big lifestyle change from being active to suddently having to study hard and stay in more, so had a big bowl of cheesy pasta for stress relief as lessons finished, and then snacks to help with studying as the evening went on. Was also surrounded by people that throught junk food was normal food.

Similar happened to my cousin when she changed schools and had a big lifestyle change (harder academics, loss of full-on sport routine).

Similar happeed in first year of uni as well, again, similar factors.

You're right that if the school is creating an obesogenic environment and think that is normal, that is probably not the place for her. Environment and habits are so important as a teen.

Could she live at home?

She needs to find other ways to manager her stress. A step away from eating out of boredom/ stress, and a move to use physical activity and outdoors time to help with the change instead would be good.

How she learns to cope with changes and environments now is probably pretty key to her future health.

People may slate you for it, but there's actually nothing wrong with being in a more health conscious, active lifestyle oriented environment. Teens eating junk food is not normal, no matter what popular culture tries to tell us.

Boarding schools are very very on it when it comes to healthy eating and plenty of exercise - it is rare to see overweight children in this setting and they are on high alert for disordered eating Those who arrive at school with weight issues often settle to healthier weights as they progress through school because of the healthy routine. I genuinely don’t know when you would find the time to eat the amount necessary to gain this amount of weight in such a short time or how you would have access to volumes of junk food - the days are structured and busy. Knowing this makes me suspect something medical with OP’s child

ConstanceM · 24/11/2024 23:00

Cyb3rg4l · 24/11/2024 21:33

It is almost half a century since ES attended school. I think we can agree the world has changed a lot in that time. It is clear to me you have little to no experience of what a modern boarding education looks like and appear to be dredging up historic experiences to shore up your personal distaste for people who choose to spend their money on their child’s education. Which is weird.

Go to bed Cyborg!

LBFseBrom · 24/11/2024 22:56

Indoctrination or what?

WearyAuldWumman · 24/11/2024 22:24

Cyb3rg4l · 24/11/2024 18:53

The army offers heavily subsidised boarding places to allow children continuity in their education when parents are routinely required to relocate due to changes in postings. I can’t remember a time when this hasn’t been the case tbh.

This immediately came to my mind: https://www.qvs.school/

Queen Victoria School

Boarding School, Dunblane, Scotland

https://www.qvs.school

WeightLossGoal2024 · 24/11/2024 22:17

joey197860 · 24/11/2024 08:23

She's not getting back at parents. She's well loved, hadd-working and very academic, ambitious etc

Even well loved children can have disordered eating/illnesses

Annabella92 · 24/11/2024 22:07

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 21:09

No it is not. What you are describing is disordered eating.

We disagree. She might very well be unhappy but rapid weight gain isn't necessarily an indicator of that.

user44221 · 24/11/2024 22:05

Cerealkiller4U · 24/11/2024 21:21

I work with hormones. Please contact me.

From reading the thread, it appears to have been a large benign ovarian cyst, with a large incision, resulting in the loss of an ovary

WearyAuldWumman · 24/11/2024 21:42

joey197860 · 24/11/2024 08:08

She did move from another one. She had a tumour removed. The weight gain is totally excessive and the only explanation is free access to rubbish edibles.

Perhaps she's comfort eating after the stress of the operation? (I know that doesn't sound as though it makes sense...When I was younger, I'd sometimes comfort eat after a stressful event was over. A sort of relief mechanism. Sorry - I'm not explaining it very well.)