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Should I give inlaws £100 for heating now?

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Meloney · 22/11/2024 23:31

We're staying at the inlaws for a month because we're having some renovation work at home. FIL absolutely refuses to put the heating on. It's not yet winter according to him. MIL has been sitting on the sofa in her coat with a blanket and hot water bottle, shivering, these past few evenings. We asked FIL to put the heating on tonight because our bedroom is like an ice box, and he said no.

AIBU to give him some cash for the heating and ask to put it on? Do you think £100 is appropriate? We were going to give them some money (couple of hundred) for bills etc. when we leave (even though they keep insisting not to worry). I'm thinking offering some cash up front might help motivate him to put the heating on now.

For context, they're both 70, retired and financially comfortable, and live in a mortgage-free, 4 bedroom house in an affluent area of the SE. (What I'm saying is they're not hard up, so don't think it's unreasonable for them to have the heating on atm).

OP posts:
Pipconkermash · 23/11/2024 09:08

Meloney · 23/11/2024 00:18

If we go to an Airbnb it will cause a bit of a scene I think.

Thanks for the cost insight @snotathing We will insist on paying the heating bill, but they'll never share how much it is so we were thinking of giving them £400 tomorrow towards it. We live in a 2 bed terraced, relatively new build, so not 100% sure what a heating bill for a decent sized 50yo 4 bedroom detached house might be.

Cause a bit of a scene? Good. Miserly and controlling old twat.

Sitting in a coat on the sofa with a hot water bottle is not an aspirational situation.

peppeRomia · 23/11/2024 08:55

RamonaRamirez · 23/11/2024 07:43

We live in a 4 bed 50yr old house in the south, and in summer (with no heating on) we pay 300 a month

that is before heating

so and now when we put the heating on, sparingly, costs rocket

i guess we are also “misers” but DH been unemployed for 2 yrs and the cost of energy scares me

How is that possible? Or do you mean you pay £300 every month as an average of less in summer, more in winter? Even that would be a lot if you're being careful.
And in the south, where it's usually some degrees milder than where I live.

CherryVanillaPie · 23/11/2024 08:50

Meloney · 23/11/2024 08:06

Of course, they're seething about losing the Winter Fuel Allowance, even though they do not need it. In fact, FIL owns a business he's still making a decent income from, that he's still lightly involved with. And yes, like a few people have suggested, they also believe any old crap they read on Facebook that they don't realise is designed to rile them up.

The only other thing I wonder is whether they're kept warm by the amount of booze they drink! Heating not important, but always a hansomely stocked drinks fridge, and a wine on the go.

Crikey. Why does he think the tax payer should pay him heating benefits? Funny how the tories called benefits "allowances" when it was to a demographic they wanted to suck up to, while they were busy getting the country into debt and trashing the economy with brexit.

Jk987 · 23/11/2024 08:50

SmalllChange · 22/11/2024 23:41

MIL has been sitting on the sofa in her coat with a blanket and hot water bottle, shivering, these past few evenings. We asked FIL to put the heating on tonight because our bedroom is like an ice box, and he said no.

This is not about money, it's about control.

So I don't think offering this pathetic twat £100 will make any difference.

This I'm afraid. I'd just turn it on myself.

Farr85 · 23/11/2024 08:46

I can't understand people like that, suffer in life to save £ that they have and could spend easily, and for what?it will be left when they are gone..makes no sense at all

saraclara · 23/11/2024 08:43

Bahhhhhumbug · 23/11/2024 01:26

Did they lose their hearing allowance this year thanks to Ms Reeves? It doesn't sound like they would be getting UC etc. Loss of £600 I think it is would make him worse l inagine. Get a little heater and hide it lol, sod freezing.

It's not £600. It's £200.

borntobequiet · 23/11/2024 08:32

I’m in my 70s and I and everyone I know of my age would hate it for family and friends to be cold if they were visiting, even if they don’t mind the cold themselves, to the point that they would spend money they can’t afford.
Your FIL sounds mean and controlling, and I feel sorry for your MIL.

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 23/11/2024 08:30

She's kind of just as bad, she claims she would prefer not to put the heating on because it's wasteful. I don't think it's abuse, but they do have a very old-fashioned marriage where what FIL says, goes.

I disagree. She reminds me of the women on here who insist that their husband is very loving and caring, except for when he's beating her; and a devoted, affectionate dad, except for when he keeps ignoring and shouting at the kids over nothing.

Even in old-fashioned 'man in charge' marriages/families, the idea is supposedly that he facilitates everybody's needs and comforts; not that he just ignores anybody who isn't him.

Hope2025 · 23/11/2024 08:15

Thomasina79 · 23/11/2024 07:58

A heated throw for your MIL for Christmas is a good idea. In the meantime, stay somewhere else!

In all likelihood, MIL won’t be allowed to use the heated thrown

Hope2025 · 23/11/2024 08:13

Wanttobefree2 · 23/11/2024 01:08

What is it with men and having control over the heating like they own it. I hear this so often :-(

Exactly. It’s not about the money at all. They can afford to put the heating on but the FIL doesn’t want to and enjoys exerting that kind of control. OP will give him money but it won’t make him put the heating on.

RamonaRamirez · 23/11/2024 08:12

@mitogoshigg DH sorts the bills as he is not working and has much more time than me, I said it cannot be right, but apparently it is. It is a fixed amount each month so in theory you build up a credit for winter but we only have about 100 in credit

i am just shocked/scared by how much energy costs here

putting on the heating feels like literally burning pound notes 😮

Meloney · 23/11/2024 08:06

Of course, they're seething about losing the Winter Fuel Allowance, even though they do not need it. In fact, FIL owns a business he's still making a decent income from, that he's still lightly involved with. And yes, like a few people have suggested, they also believe any old crap they read on Facebook that they don't realise is designed to rile them up.

The only other thing I wonder is whether they're kept warm by the amount of booze they drink! Heating not important, but always a hansomely stocked drinks fridge, and a wine on the go.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 23/11/2024 08:05

shellyleppard · 22/11/2024 23:34

I think the older generation see central heating as a luxury??? My dad is nearly 80 and only just put it on this week 🥶😳

Some of them, maybe! My DPs would both have been well over 100 now, but I well remember how much they relished finally having a lovely warm house once we had central heating installed - in the 60s.

OTOH a DSis’s FiL, who lived in the N of Scotland, would never visit during the summer because it was ‘too hot’ - DSis and BiL lived in Yorkshire!

Applesonthelawn · 23/11/2024 08:02

Their generation probably grew up like this though. Central heating was a huge luxury in the 60's and 70's - yes people had it but they were far more careful with pennies then than the current generations understand. We had to switch every light off then too and none were left on overnight - our street is like Blackpool illuminations these days through the night due to the burglary risk (and reduced relative cost of lighting). Your DH should help them move with the times and maybe an offer of cash would help the conversation even if they don't need it?

LeonoraCazalet · 23/11/2024 08:00

Tell them that the cold is making you feel ill, you can't sleep and are chilled to the bone and feel sick. Rent an Air bnb nearby and give them the money you have cost them in electricity thus far and usage of water, etc. You need to be able to function in your everyday. When I was a student decades ago, I stayed in a house in the Midlands and it was freezing. I went to bed fully clothed with my coat on and only took my shoes off. We got served liver stew for two full days, reheated and reheated. It still sticks in my memory 50 years later. I was never so grateful to get onto the heated train back to the big smoke. Never again.

mitogoshigg · 23/11/2024 07:59

@RamonaRamirez

How do you spend £300 a month without heating???

I have a 4 bed and my summer bill is £60 a month, it's £160-200 in winter depending on how cold it is.

Thomasina79 · 23/11/2024 07:58

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A heated throw for your MIL for Christmas is a good idea. In the meantime, stay somewhere else!

Crazycactuslady · 23/11/2024 07:54

My outlaws do this - they’re almost competitive with the heating and who gives in and turns it on first! It’s ridiculous.

My parents don’t have central heating (no gas where they are), so have two storage heaters and two log burners.

Happyinarcon · 23/11/2024 07:50

I guess arguing about heating is the latest issue being pushed by bots. I’m waiting for all the ‘I hate what my husband got me for Xmas’ threads

SummerSnowstorm · 23/11/2024 07:45

I would be calling adult social services if you can't get him to change his view.
A 70 year old woman shouldn't be shivering on the sofa with a coat on in any circumstances, nevermind when it's due to her husband choosing to despite having money.
But yes if you can afford it then pay for now, but if you can't get him to agree to setting the thermostat to 18.5 then longer term your MiL needs someone to look our for her.

roastiepotato · 23/11/2024 07:45

Peppermint81 · 22/11/2024 23:41

Say to him you really feel the cold and would it be possible especially if you paid the electric bill this month?

This

LAMPS1 · 23/11/2024 07:43

You can’t make him do something he doesn’t want to do in his own house if he is of sound mind -and it sounds like he is. But in this instance, where their health is at risk, you should try.

You can’t stay there without heating. It’s unreasonable for you to have to stay there in those conditions so it shouldn’t matter if they kick up a fuss for you leaving for alternative warm accommodation. There is going to be a fuss either way. But please make sure MIL doesn’t actually want to come with you.

Your DH should be the one tackling this very serious problem very firmly, even if only for MIL sake. The cold can so easily be a killer for the elderly. There is no merit whatsoever in suffering like that when they can afford not to.
It really is worth taking a very firm lead and insisting he puts the heating on.
Then, if FIL complies, I think you should insist on paying the whole electricity bill for the time you are there.

Is he like this every year OP? Or is he upset about the withdrawal of the Winter Fuel Allowance and making some sort of illogical stand.

mycatsanutter · 23/11/2024 07:43

Sounds like my FIL last Winter his thermostat showed 13 degrees and he was proud his gas and electric bill that month was £33 combined! He has plenty of money and enjoys stashing it away .

RamonaRamirez · 23/11/2024 07:43

We live in a 4 bed 50yr old house in the south, and in summer (with no heating on) we pay 300 a month

that is before heating

so and now when we put the heating on, sparingly, costs rocket

i guess we are also “misers” but DH been unemployed for 2 yrs and the cost of energy scares me

Ciochan · 23/11/2024 07:41

My dad (85) would be horrified if you produced an electric heater because "electricity costs twice as much as gas!!" and would probably rather put the heating on than let you run a heater!