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Aibu to be very upset at the way this poor care worker was treated by the Irish Taoiseach? Video in link.

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Imperiallanger · 22/11/2024 23:27

As our main political leader I find his manner very condescending & passive aggressive. Very upset watching this.. Video linked here. Care workers in Ireland have been let down very badly by our politicians

www.rte.ie/news/post/104564612/

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Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 23:42

Hi @mollyfolk you're a bit late to the party!
I hope you're enjoying the massive backlash Simon Harris & Fine Gael are getting accross all platforms 😁
Give credit where credit is due to RTE for exposing the Taoiseachs deplorable behaviour towards that poor woman. I don't usually have such warmth towards RTE but they are playing a blinder in the past few days!

I think Trump has displayed similar displays of contempt in the past towards people who have questioned his policies. So yes it's a fair comparison.

Lets see how many seats Aontú plus the Independents get next week @mollyfolk you may be very surprised.. Remember Kamala Harris was supposed to win the US election by a landslide according to the polls. Look how that turned out😅

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mollyfolk · 23/11/2024 23:34

Another thread that reads like an Aontú party political broadcast.

For a party that are set to get 3% of the vote they sure seem over represented on here.

Comparing Simon Harris to trump ? 🤣 he might have handled it better but I can't see him shouting grab them by the pussy anytime soon.

whichcandidate.ie is a good starting point for trying to decide.

Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 23:33

Dontlletmedownbruce · 23/11/2024 23:15

Thanks @Imperiallanger from my (very brief) research they also support the 3 day abortion wait period which other parties are trying to change. I don't support this change as that was the terms people voted in favour of in the referendum.

You're welcome. I don't like this part of their manifesto. It doesn't bother me as they won't be able to change it, they would need the support of the Dáil & it simply won't happen

Us women & mothers would have been eradicated from the constitution if it wasn't for Aontú & like minded independents. They fought hard & achieved a no/no result.

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Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 23:30

SquawkerTexasRanger · 23/11/2024 23:14

I don’t think she was trying to openly humiliate him, she was just very upset and angry. He definitely could have handled it better. Even if he had said, “I’m very sorry that you feel that way, I understand your frustration” or something to show a bit of empathy would have been better than going on the defensive as he did. He definitely seemed to be caught off guard by her and her level of upset but he should be prepared for encounters like that while out canvassing

He's not used to unscripted questions. The woman was in super valu, shopping on a Friday opportunity & seized the opportunity to ask Simon Harris a few home truths.

We have every right to hold politicians accountable at every opportunity. We choose them to work for us, we pay their wages through our taxes so we have every right to hold them to task if they are not doing their job.

He was in Kanturk, Co Cork advocating for TD John Paul O Shea. I cannot imagine his seat is safe now & I hope the locals have a good alternative to vote for.
That courageous lady has a wave of global support & good will which shows that arrogance, entitelement & contempt will never be tolerated. Let's hope the support for the carers & all carers continues on Friday & Fine Gael lose a load of seats😁😁

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Dontlletmedownbruce · 23/11/2024 23:15

Thanks @Imperiallanger from my (very brief) research they also support the 3 day abortion wait period which other parties are trying to change. I don't support this change as that was the terms people voted in favour of in the referendum.

SquawkerTexasRanger · 23/11/2024 23:14

Dontlletmedownbruce · 23/11/2024 17:55

He didn't handle it well at all but I don't think anyone would come across well when someone challenges them like that with the cameras rolling in their face. She was trying to openly humiliate him. What could he say really? There was no appropriate answer. Would it be worse if he lied to her? Or nodded along and made all the right noises but did nothing. She was 100% correct, carers are treated like shit in Ireland and I don't blame her for her anger, I'd be angry too. I just wish a government, any government, would actually do something about it. Whether they talk the talk when canvassing isn't really the big issue.

I don’t think she was trying to openly humiliate him, she was just very upset and angry. He definitely could have handled it better. Even if he had said, “I’m very sorry that you feel that way, I understand your frustration” or something to show a bit of empathy would have been better than going on the defensive as he did. He definitely seemed to be caught off guard by her and her level of upset but he should be prepared for encounters like that while out canvassing

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Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 23:01

For me as a single issue voter it's their strong stance against gender ideology. They are conservative which I think the country needs at the moment, they are committed to repealing the Gender Recognition Act & protecting female spaces & sports.

Aontú are quite rightly horrified at the new sphe programme & have pledged to make it age & content appropriate for children & teenagers.

Also they were ferociously strong during the care & family referendum, they were the only party to be on winning side of the No/No vote.

Sinn Féin said at the time if they were to get into power they would rerun the care & family referendums if the Yes side lost. This immediately rang warning bells for me as we are supposed to be a democracy, how many million would SF waste rerunning the referendums if they got into power.

I like Peadar Toibíns common sense, no nonsense, anti woke approach. He's a formidable debator & holds all the others to task at ease in the Dáil.

I basically want the opposite of the shower we have at the moment so that's why I'm voting Aontú, the rest will go to independents. Have no intention of voting all the way down in case anyone I don't want gets in on my transfers!

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Dontlletmedownbruce · 23/11/2024 22:45

@Imperiallanger can I be very lazy and ask what other reasons you have for supporting Aontu? I'm still undecided and my head is spinning from trying to educate myself, I wish I had paid more attention. There is an Aontu candidate in my constituency and i don't know much about them. All the stuff on flyers is just buzz words or complaints about current government. I'm finding it hard to believe any of them have any alternative solutions.

Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 22:03

MyStylish40s · 23/11/2024 21:57

I was really shocked. He always comes across as genuine and compassionate, so I was very disappointed in him.

I'm not shocked at all, the mask slipped.Look at all the waiting lists for children with scoliosis under FF/FG, their poor parents are begging for help & it's falling on deaf ears.

Cervical cancer scandal?
Children's hospital?

This incident could not have happened at a better time, the backlash is immense & with the help of God FG will be voted out on Fri (or lose a healthy amount of seats SH's seat included)

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MyStylish40s · 23/11/2024 21:57

I was really shocked. He always comes across as genuine and compassionate, so I was very disappointed in him.

Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 21:53

Anothermathstest · 23/11/2024 20:52

I don’t think you can compare him to Trump!

Why? Trump treats people who challenge him with similar distain to the way Simon Harris treated that poor woman.
No wonder FF, FG, SD, PBP & Labour want a hate speech Bill passed at all costs as they want to police speech & tell people what to think just as Simon did so ineloquently in that video which has gone viral globally. They don't want anyone speaking out.
Fair fucks to RTE for sharing it especially if it costs FG the election or at the very least stops a few FG TDs getting seats 😂

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Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 21:08

Nogaxeh · 23/11/2024 20:56

I don't think Aontú are any better.

Aontú at least are extremely gender critical & want the Gender Recognition Act reversed. I'm a single issue voter who is shocked at how captured the main parties are with gender identity so I am delighted to have Aontú to vote for. This quote from RTE sums it up!

Aibu to be very upset at the way this poor care worker was treated by the Irish Taoiseach? Video in link.
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Nogaxeh · 23/11/2024 20:56

I don't think Aontú are any better.

Anothermathstest · 23/11/2024 20:52

I don’t think you can compare him to Trump!

Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 20:47

Nogaxeh · 23/11/2024 20:36

I don't think Martin would have handled it any better. He has a manner of sounding deeply offended when anyone criticises him, or asks him a question.

But he would have the self awareness to know he was being filmed & I think he'd act accordingly .. He's brutal also. Very glad I have Aontú to vote for. Peadar Toibín would never have been so ignorant..
Harris is Taoiseach in name only. That video has gone viral globally, what an embarrassment for Ireland. And people cribb about Trumps behaviour, Harris is no better...

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Nogaxeh · 23/11/2024 20:36

Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 00:35

He was so cold & unemotional. Then walked back at her passive aggressively before walking off on her. As much as I dislike Michael Martin he would have handled it very differently. I can imagine Mary Lou or Peadar Toibin also being sympathetic & compassionate.
The way he completely invalidated her feelings is despicable. It will cost him.

I don't think Martin would have handled it any better. He has a manner of sounding deeply offended when anyone criticises him, or asks him a question.

Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 20:29

https://gript.ie/simon-harris-charlotte-fallon-fine-gael/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGvFmVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTkwWrTWIB8TDUkAs9o1cD_o1XVY-7Cb5vC78pFJyMJcsIlWd6yNqlNS9g_aem_XsheCjV6uJwNf-WQkTb0dA&sfnsn=wa

I like Gripts account of his despicable behaviour. Simon Harris's mask slipped big time & hopefully he will get what he deserves & gets the boot on Friday.
Between his (& Fine Gaels) firm belief in Gender Ideology & that men can be woman on top of his contempt towards this woman he is no friend of females. Vote them out!!!!

The bad Harris moment that could up-end the election - Gript

We've all just learned something new about the Taoiseach - and it isn't good for him.

https://gript.ie/simon-harris-charlotte-fallon-fine-gael?fbclid=IwY2xjawGvFmVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTkwWrTWIB8TDUkAs9o1cD_o1XVY-7Cb5vC78pFJyMJcsIlWd6yNqlNS9g_aem_XsheCjV6uJwNf-WQkTb0dA&sfnsn=wa

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Dontlletmedownbruce · 23/11/2024 17:55

He didn't handle it well at all but I don't think anyone would come across well when someone challenges them like that with the cameras rolling in their face. She was trying to openly humiliate him. What could he say really? There was no appropriate answer. Would it be worse if he lied to her? Or nodded along and made all the right noises but did nothing. She was 100% correct, carers are treated like shit in Ireland and I don't blame her for her anger, I'd be angry too. I just wish a government, any government, would actually do something about it. Whether they talk the talk when canvassing isn't really the big issue.

Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 17:41

@Anothermathstest Simon Harris has forgetten his place. We the people employ him, he works for us. We reward him through votes for service (& through our taxpayers money!) well done to that strong lady for reminding him exactly who he works for!

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Anothermathstest · 23/11/2024 13:54

He didn’t handle that well. There were a few small things for carers in the budget but the means test for carers allowance wasn’t abolished, which is what a lot of people wanted. The limits are higher now so more people will qualify but it’s not enough really. The Carers Support Grant increased a little.

Pension rights for carers have improved recently on Heather Humphrey’s watch.

Financial hardship is much higher amongst both disabled people and their carers. The cost of living increases have had a huge impact.

You would hope that having grown up with a brother with autism he would be somewhat attuned to disability. Maybe he is better than some of the others? I don’t know. But he didn’t handle that well, that’s for sure.

Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 06:46

Bumping this.

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Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 00:35

Sakura7 · 23/11/2024 00:32

So patronising and disrespectful, you could hear in that woman's voice that she was struggling and he can't even pretend to care. Awful.

He was so cold & unemotional. Then walked back at her passive aggressively before walking off on her. As much as I dislike Michael Martin he would have handled it very differently. I can imagine Mary Lou or Peadar Toibin also being sympathetic & compassionate.
The way he completely invalidated her feelings is despicable. It will cost him.

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Sakura7 · 23/11/2024 00:32

So patronising and disrespectful, you could hear in that woman's voice that she was struggling and he can't even pretend to care. Awful.

Imperiallanger · 23/11/2024 00:32

ChimneyPot · 23/11/2024 00:24

I think Higher Education in Ireland improved in many ways on his watch. Higher Education wasn’t a separate department before he took it over.
Initiatives like extra places in many higher demand courses have made a big difference to school leaves and the setting up of regional universities allowing more people to live at home while studying has really helped families trying to pay for education.
I was surprised and pleased when I saw that the new places in veterinary medicine were in the new regional universities.

@ChimneyPot what do you make of his treatment of that poor woman tonight?

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