To want a way to label the reasonable fear of the variety of Islam that wishes to impose Sharia law?

Perhaps because its absolute bullshit?

If i went on a march and there was 1 person next to me holding a placard supporting a proscribed terrorist group, I would start to consider what kind of march I was partaking in.

If there were multiple people on this march holding placards supporting terrorist groups and shouting chants about massacring Jews (Google Khaybar khaybar), and these same people were showing up to every March, I would certainly ask what the hell this March was about and seek to distance myself from it.

the fact that these extremists are a minority is no excuse. What is deeply concerning is that hundreds of thousands of people are perfectly happy to March alongside this extremist minority, and make zero effort to remove them from the movement. That is deeply telling. As the saying goes ‘If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you’ve got a table with 11 Nazis’.

im not calling for the marches to be banned entirely. I’m calling for stronger policing to root out these extremists, and for the organisers of the march to actively make it clear that these extremists are not welcome at the marches. I’ve seen none of that so far.

Well done for yet again saying the left support terrorists. The vast majority of people in the pro Palestinian marches are peaceful and want an end to the war crimes and depravity.

The left don't support terrorists. They don't support those wanted for war crimes either, Starmer said the government will support the arrest warrants.

I think that anyone feeling threatened in the UK is bad. I was particularly concerned for those targeted in the recent riots. Everyone deserves to feel safe.

First Islamic extremism isn't a left wing ideology, it's more far right

This is where I want to weep in despair. We all know Islamism is far right. That is why it's such a paradox to see the left and far left week in week out defending self same terrorists. Beggars belief

Well done for completely ignoring what I wrote in my post. All of the above chants have been repeatedly chanted at each of the Palestinian marches. Supporting the Houthis, a proscribed terrorist organisation, and chanting about resistance being justified is supporting terrorists, not ordinary Palestinians. It is perfectly possible to show your anger about Israel’s actions, and that you care about Palestinians, without openly supporting Iran’s terror proxies in the region. And yes, the people marching alongside those holding these extremist placards are the left wing. Also refer to Corbyn calling members of Hamas and Hezbollah (proscribed brutal, paedophilic, women raping terrorist groups) his ‘friends’. Stop trying to gaslight Jews into thinking that we’re imagining all this.

Yes it's awful

What about Putin in Chetnya? In Ukraine?
What about SA in the Yemen?
What about Bashir in Syria?
So many awful wars.
So many awful wars centuries ago
So many awful wars to come in the future

So what if there are a few beheadings in France. Blood shed in a music venue. A few dozen? Twenty people dead at a children's concert? So few, these dead don't matter by comparison..... Can you hear yourself?

Well guess what. It is in our 'beloved' European countries that have to accept immigrants who within their ranks contain terrorists. These nutjibs do what they do in the name of religion. They use religion as a weapon in war against women (Yazidis?), against their OWN women and girls. For many Islamic countries, women are child bearers only with no rights as human individuals. I cannot believe you are comparing Blair and Bush's blushing religious convictions to the strategic and systemic use (misuse?) of religion as an instrument of repression, torture and murder.

Each to their own I suppose. Still, you need for the UK population to accept....what exactly? Islamists in our cities? Sharia law in our public institutions? Political movements based on religious affiliation? Oh the irony: the anti war liberals fighting to integrate the illiberal and intolerant. Those very same Islamists who would bomb them, slit their throats or otherwise bind them in shrouds and multitude their bodies.

I was going to say similar. Western countries drop bombs safe in the knowledge that the countries they bomb don't have the ability drop bombs back. Then they act surprised and horrified when something happens on their soil.

Some countries in The West have merrily supported a man who now has an warrant out for his arrest for crimes against humanity. Yet if something were to happen on US ground for instance, despite the fact their weapons are being used in those crimes against humanity people would be horrified, oh no innocent US civillians dead, what awful people could do that, the same type of people who supported crimes against humanity I'm guessing.

There are awful, cruel, inhumane people the world over. Some drop bombs, some pass the bombs to people who then drop them, others blow themselves up with the bombs. All of this is wrong but to us of course the people who blow themselves up amongst us seem the worst because they are the only ones that directly effect us. That's not really the full picture though is it.

It's very boring that people insist on associating the left with terrorists. First Islamic extremism isn't a left wing ideology, it's more far right. Some far right factions support the Taliban.

Second, supporting Palestinians isn't automatically support for Hamas or any other Islamic extremist organisation.

And as for the wonderful civilised France , it wasn’t that long ago it was testing its nuclear weapons on or near its colonies or former colonies.

The Palestinian marches in London are full of Islamic extremists showing support for terrorist groups. So many chants of ‘from the river to the sea’, ‘houthis houthis make us proud’, ‘resistance is justified (I.e october 7th) and comparing Israeli Jews to Hitler. Also see chants of ‘khaybar khaybar ya yahood’, quoting the part of the Quran where Jews were massacred. And leftists March alongside these extremists. Islamic extremism and the left truly are an unholy trinity in the UK.

and the police are useless. These extremists get away with these awful chants by and large, whilst most of the Jewish community are left terrified. I am Jewish and avoid central London every single time there’s a march on. 2024 and Jews have to avoid parts of the UK because of openly racist, genocidal chants against us, it’s sickening.

why are more Brits not up in arms about this?!

Huffalumps Tony Blair a catholic convert and Bush both prayed together before starting a war that killed millions of people, something that our democracy supported, now compare that to a few lone wolf suicide attacks in the name of religion. Religious gas definitely been used to support American imperialism and all the harm that has caused to many people across the world. Look how many wars America has started. Westerners see suicide bombs as bad but bombs from planes as good and can’t see the hypocrisy of it were to slap them in the face.

I get you now. Yes that's probably worth a discussion. I don't have a strong view but it is a decent question

As religious influence goes I'll take the UK over many other countries.

The op mentions countries I would fear living in as a woman and with dc, including a dd. Not irrationally

Perhaps secularisation of the UK

Is this referring to a post?

Not sure what you mean here

Which might be the word of our creator?

Why is it a big deal if it written by a man?

This.

You seek truth in books written by men?

I remember a thread probably a decade ago where I argued that I was concerned about a military draft in the UK. I was flamed at the absurdity of my claim. War in Europe? Hardly.

So no. As of today there's a very small risk of Sharia law in the UK. However, we are seeing a burgeoning immigrant population. We are seeing Sharia law courts in the UK (for decades). We have seen members of our Muslim communities join ISIS and commit terrible terrorist attacks. Much is made of right wing terrorism yet the largest threat by far comes from the Islamists. We have seen campaigning women politicians threatened and booed this last election. We have seen a growing political representation in reaction to the Hamas terrorism in the Middle East. There is a growing trend for modest attire, increasing numbers of shrouded ladies and young teenagers in our market towns (that cuts me to the quick, my daughter is 11). It's not going in the right direction is it? I couldn't say where we will be in 20, 50 years time. Look at where we were in the 50s compared to today. Is it envisagable that Sharia law will ever become the rule of law in the UK? The answer for me is yes, it is.

Be careful what you wish for

Islam will fill a vacuum and it will be too late

Total non argument comparing Islamist extremists to Christian extremists in the contemporary world.

Who is....

Beheading/slicing throats
Forcing girls into marriage with older men and cousins and killing them if they don't
Engaging in FGM
Covering all post pubescent females in shrouds
Nodding heads towards a para legal system deemed to supersede the rule of law of the country

This is happening in the UK and France not just in Iran or Afghanistan! This is only what is happening on European soil. In their countries of origin they are stoning to death and killing: adulterous women, women who refuse to veil, small time thieves....

I lived in France when the Bataclan hit. After the assassinations of cartoonists in Paris, basically every shop had signs in their windows 'Je suis Charlie'. Priests in churches had their throats sliced. The armed police took down a siege of a kosher supermarket where Islamists killed Jews. A Hamas publication praised the actions. Interestingly, a Bali Muslim immigrant worker was awarded french citizenship for his courageous actions during this siege. No one (other than the skinheads we should all ignore) is making crass generalisations and blaming 'all Muslims'. The primary schools were drilling for Islamic style terrorist attacks. My 4 year old had to practise hiding under the school table 😢😢. Imagine that! It was an awful time for the country.

None of these things are happening in the contemporary world at the hands of Christian extremists to my knowledge. Again, I'd be happy to be corrected. If once upon a time the scourge of the world was Catholicism or Christian extremism, it doesn't exist today and hasn't for centuries. And indeed, that fact it existed is hardly excuse for current day extremism.

Which has nicer food ?

I've not converted. I've been trying to search for truth and I'm stuck between choosing Christianity and Islam.

There is no national law giving maternity pay and Americans don't tend to have statutory labour laws. A worker's rights can often be circumvented or disregarded in their contracts.

Medicare is very limited in who is covered.

Brainwashed?

Lack of thinking?

Why did you convert?