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To not understand adult food vs kids food?

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SofandaCox · 22/11/2024 11:37

I meet up occasionally with my old baby group. Our babies are 3 now. We met up yesterday for lunch and there’s a few in the group that are firmly in the adult foods are separate to kids food camp and I find it so bizarre. They make really weird comments like “why would you give that to a child” “my child would never eat that” “I wouldn’t waste that on a child” etc. my child has a long list of allergies and I’ve had gastric surgery so can’t much so we usually share a meal. The offending meal? Calamari. Basically chicken nuggets but wish squid. They acted like I had just purchased my toddler a fillet mignon with champagne and lobster tail. Which, again, don’t see the issue if that’s what he wanted! Has anyone experienced this? And also just to be so rude as to sit there and actually make comments about it. I’ve had judgey thoughts about them feeding their 3 year old jarred baby food but I’ve kept that to myself. It’s making me not want to meet up with them anymore but it would be a shame for my son as he enjoys spending time with the others toddlers.

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Cojones · 24/11/2024 14:03

We almost always gave our DSs the same food we were eating. As a result they’ve grown up and we know they will always find something to eat. It’s not been plain sailing though as eldest doesn’t like cheese or mushrooms, youngest won’t eat fruit, peas or cooked tomatoes.

I always hated that the children’s menu was usually cheap, fried foods and not what I wanted them to have. Did cause an issue with the in-laws once when youngest wanted what we were having but they were expecting him to eat from the cheaper children’s menu.

SallyWD · 24/11/2024 13:50

unmemorableusername · 22/11/2024 11:39

It's a British cultural thing.

Yep, it's definitely British. When I go abroad, kids just eat what the adults eat.

LBFseBrom · 24/11/2024 13:38

Eating the same meal does not mean having to eat things you don't like. Individual portions can be modified accordingly and, if that isn't possible, something else provided. It's important that everyone sits down at the table to eat together.

As a child I did not like beef in any form. When my mum cooked beef for her and my dad, she would do me a chicken portion.

My son always loved food and ate well but there were things he wouldn't touch, like mushrooms and custard, or cheese sauce. Not a big deal, he just didn't have them.

Fizbosshoes · 24/11/2024 13:19

Didimum · 24/11/2024 10:43

I saw an article recently on the BBC on fussy eaters which reported it to be down to genetics and not influenced by parenting. If you have a fussy eater you have a fussy eater, then that’s it. It is said to peak between 2-4yrs old, tail off, have another peak at 7ish and then tail off, with not much discernible difference at teen years.

One of my twins is very fussy, the other will eat anything – they were given the same treatment with eating and food since birth which was baby led weaning. One twin simply stopped cold at eating what was on offer, the other didn’t.

Edited

I was pretty fussy as a child and both myself and my Dsis had eating disorders in our teens/20s.

As I said in a previous post I did all the "right" things with weaning my PFB literally following guidance yo the letter, but DD just didn't like a massive amount of stuff I was making. I cooked vegetables, pureed what we were eating, she just didn't like it. I found it pretty stressful. I saw a dietician and they said just give what she will eat....which was mainly bland (and carbs)

Obviously I've gradually introduced more foods but it's really really not through lack of exposure or lack of effort that she doesn't like so many things. My philosophy having had an eating disorder, and knowing they can be genetic is that I'm OK if she's eating meals, is a healthy weight and occassionally trying new things.

She's 18 now and would still order a kids meal of she could get away with it

I just find it pretty annoying that so many people seem to suggest it's as simple as "just give them what you're eating" ....because they had a child who happened to like that stuff!

MrsSunshine2b · 24/11/2024 12:10

I'm firmly in the "everyone should eat the same meal" camp. Sadly, my daughter isn't and will point blank refuse to eat most sauces, spices or any kind of meal with vegetables and meat mixed together. I swore I'd never make separate meals but I have started to set aside the same food we are eating and cooking it plain without spices or sauce (e.g. if we're having chicken and broccoli curry she'll have grilled chicken, broccoli and rice) because at least that way she's eating vegetables, protein and carbs. I had so hoped that she would be the kind of kid who eats and enjoys everything and I followed all the advice.

JaninaDuszejko · 24/11/2024 11:43

I saw an article recently on the BBC on fussy eaters which reported it to be down to genetics and not influenced by parenting. If you have a fussy eater you have a fussy eater, then that’s it. It is said to peak between 2-4yrs old, tail off, have another peak at 7ish and then tail off, with not much discernible difference at teen years.

Which is why I blame DH for DS being a fussy eater 😁DH was also very fussy as a small child, he's not fussy as an adult.

MumDoingMyBest · 24/11/2024 10:46

fivebyfivebuffy · 23/11/2024 02:17

I think it depends on the adult as well and what they eat/how they were fed as a child

My old colleague was having lunch with me one day, we got talking and she was a bit embarrassed but I got her point
Loads of food she hadn't ever tried and she said "but I don't want to buy it because what if it's horrible and I've wasted my money? I can't afford it"
So she was feeding her son fine, but with the stuff she had been brought up with

Stuff that was normal to me like hummus, blueberries, feta cheese she hadn't ever tried (I grew up in pubs and was fed/allowed to try whatever I wanted)

Every day for work lunch I ended up bringing in something different and she would try it. I said if you don't like it, you're an adult, spit it out! Then she felt confident she liked something, she could buy it and if her son didn't like it she could eat it and it wouldn't get wasted

@fivebyfivebuffy I just wanted to say this is a really lovely post. I wish you were one of my colleagues.

Didimum · 24/11/2024 10:43

I saw an article recently on the BBC on fussy eaters which reported it to be down to genetics and not influenced by parenting. If you have a fussy eater you have a fussy eater, then that’s it. It is said to peak between 2-4yrs old, tail off, have another peak at 7ish and then tail off, with not much discernible difference at teen years.

One of my twins is very fussy, the other will eat anything – they were given the same treatment with eating and food since birth which was baby led weaning. One twin simply stopped cold at eating what was on offer, the other didn’t.

Mirabai · 24/11/2024 10:28

but suggesting that calamari is the same as chicken nuggets is just mental

To you, to me it’s obvious there’s no major difference between any of them - nuggets, scampi, calamari, fish fingers - they’re all breaded white meat. The only real difference is in the level of processing.

FlipFlopVibe · 24/11/2024 10:20

Stand up for yourself and when they criticise you, throw back and say where on a baby food jar does it say suitable for age 3.

I loved creating exciting meals for my first baby from 6 months, it was lockdown so a bit of interest. Second baby this year I haven’t had so much time but he gets pretty much everything we eat. His nursery are very big on proper adult meals, lamb tagines, curries, mexican, pastas, loads of fruit and veg. Very much baby led.

My biggest tip for anyone wanting to take this approach to baby weaning is have a constant stock of creme fraiche! Make your own food and if a bit too spicy, throw a teaspoon of creme fraiche in theirs. Want to make a quick dip, creme fraiche is your friend! Works in anything from breakfast, lunch, tea to dessert!.

saffy2 · 24/11/2024 09:57

Mirabai · 24/11/2024 09:50

You could say that about all seafood, you just happen not to like calamari. I’d say nuggets and fish fingers have a vile UPF texture whereas calamari don’t the similarity is in the breadcrumb coating.

OP is right, the idea that calamari is showing off is peak MN.

I don’t think she is showing off. I do think she is privileged that her children eat that kind of thing. My eldest eats calamari, along with anything and everything else. My middle will not. She would eat nothing rather than eat calamari. So yes I probably would end up buying her something elsewhere if we were somewhere with no kids menu. You’re misunderstanding me, I’m not advocating for chicken nuggets. I’m saying some children will only eat that kind of thing, and it’s ridiculous when you haven’t experienced it, to think that’s because the child hasn’t been exposed to adult foods. I have three children, all have been weaned the same way and all have been exposed to the foods I eat. Within a week of weaning all three of them were given shellfish. I have two who eat shellfish, and one who won’t even pick it up now. She is the way she is. However, I just wouldn’t take her somewhere that didn’t have a kids menu that I knew she’d eat from to be honest, so op would never know 😂 although I have no shame in my daughters food preferences so I probably would just say, sorry that restaurant doesn’t cater for her, she won’t eat seafood and needs somewhere that will serve pasta or chicken nuggets.
i in no way think children should only eat chicken nuggets.
but suggesting that calamari is the same as chicken nuggets is just mental, it’s very obviously in no way like a chicken nugget…proven by the fact that children who only eat chicken nuggets wouldn’t eat calamari 😂😂😂

TenaciousOne · 24/11/2024 09:56

Anothernamechane · 24/11/2024 09:28

If you are one of the “my child eats what I eat” people I guarantee it’s more down to luck than excellent parenting.

When DD was a baby I followed all the advice, no pouches, baby led weaning, fed her what I was having and she was a great eater as a baby. Then from around 3 she just started with food refusal and eating beiger and beiger foods. She has issues with texture and mixing food and dislikes most vegetables.

At 11 she’s finally being assessed and I believe we’ll get an ASD diagnosis. We’re lucky she doesn’t have extreme food aversions or anything like that. She will try foods and I’ll often ask her to try curries etc but she almost never likes them. She will eat a variety of pastas, lasagna and likes a good roast. She doesn’t mind steak and loves hoisin duck, but her preferences still tend to be bland - pizza, goujons, chips, mash.

I was an extremely fussy eater in the 80s and used to actually gag if my mum made me eat potato. I didn’t even eat chips. Now I’ll eat almost anything so people do grow out of it

I would agree to an extent however, far too many people scoffed when DS was first eating that one i didn’t force food down him and two that he wasn’t ordered a special meal and just ate off our plates. It does help if they see parents eating the same meal.

Mirabai · 24/11/2024 09:50

saffy2 · 23/11/2024 19:02

Don’t you?! I’m a grown adult who loves sea food and I don’t eat calamari because it has a weird texture. It is absolutely nothing like a chicken nugget or a fish finger and you full well know that. My daughter would literally vomit if I gave her calamari, and of all the ‘adult’ foods out there I wouldn’t blame her 😂😂😂

You could say that about all seafood, you just happen not to like calamari. I’d say nuggets and fish fingers have a vile UPF texture whereas calamari don’t the similarity is in the breadcrumb coating.

OP is right, the idea that calamari is showing off is peak MN.

Anothernamechane · 24/11/2024 09:28

If you are one of the “my child eats what I eat” people I guarantee it’s more down to luck than excellent parenting.

When DD was a baby I followed all the advice, no pouches, baby led weaning, fed her what I was having and she was a great eater as a baby. Then from around 3 she just started with food refusal and eating beiger and beiger foods. She has issues with texture and mixing food and dislikes most vegetables.

At 11 she’s finally being assessed and I believe we’ll get an ASD diagnosis. We’re lucky she doesn’t have extreme food aversions or anything like that. She will try foods and I’ll often ask her to try curries etc but she almost never likes them. She will eat a variety of pastas, lasagna and likes a good roast. She doesn’t mind steak and loves hoisin duck, but her preferences still tend to be bland - pizza, goujons, chips, mash.

I was an extremely fussy eater in the 80s and used to actually gag if my mum made me eat potato. I didn’t even eat chips. Now I’ll eat almost anything so people do grow out of it

Stormyjane · 24/11/2024 07:23

I totally agree OP, ours will sometimes have some fish fingers or the like but generally, my husband is the cook of the house and will just cook one big meal and it’s for everyone — seldom beige!

Josie901 · 24/11/2024 04:42

Josie901 · 24/11/2024 04:42

Yeah, it's luck. I know far two many siblings who were both given everything like my DC yet one will happily live off a diet of beige.

Too many* obvs

Josie901 · 24/11/2024 04:42

Fizbosshoes · 22/11/2024 18:46

Ds 10 loves calamari,mussels,prawns in fact all seafood.We got him to try them very young. ....and he happened to like them.....

Do you think everyone with fussy eaters has never thought of (and tried) offering them other food..?

Yeah, it's luck. I know far two many siblings who were both given everything like my DC yet one will happily live off a diet of beige.

mathanxiety · 24/11/2024 03:30

JudgeJ · 22/11/2024 22:54

On MN anything done in the UK is inferior to the rest of the world, usually said by those who have never lived abroad. In the US there is usually a children's menu, our grandson once ordered mac'n'cheese and the waiter told him 'and that comes with a side of fries'.

Like the lasagne and chips I've seen mentioned here so frequently?

OhNotNow · 24/11/2024 01:57

Mine always had the same meals as the adults from being weaned, just smaller portions.
When being weaned they had the same food as us, just blended up.
That included mild curries etc.
Chips and fish fingers etc weren't on the menu.

Iloveburgerswaymorethanishould · 24/11/2024 00:38

My youngest is 5 (and the youngest of 5). He is also the only one who will literally only eat “kiddy”food (not baby food, he never even had that as a baby!!”. I brought him up no different to the others food wise either. But he’s the fussiest little person ever. Won’t even eat chips and nuggets… has to be chips OR nuggets. He won’t even attempt anything remotely adult. Won’t touch any fruit or any veg. Yet if I put a plate of olives, feta and some nice salami/chorizo out he will demolish it! (Which kinda contradicts what I just wrote lol!!) even more so if I’m not looking!! Basically all children are different and as long as they have full tummies it doesn’t matter!!

  • before I’m jumped on…. I try him constantly but never make a big deal of it or make threats about pudding bla bla bla. He’s growing and developing well and have multivitamin gummy things alongside his crap diet but full tummy.
pollymere · 24/11/2024 00:29

By three ours was eating exactly the same as us... Maybe with less salt. I remember we'd order Chinese food with no added salt or MSG.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/11/2024 00:00

Never understood it either. Our 4 year old grandson loves olives, smoked salmon, sushi, Coq au vin, lemon and prawn fettuccine, Caesar salad, whatever. Because that’s what our family eats so of course he does too. His mum and her brother were the same as tots. Just never occurred to us that there was adult and child food.

Josie901 · 23/11/2024 23:56

Your approach is the right one but surely you know this..?

I was very lucky that DC will eat anything (mushrooms are their favourite!) but I did give absolutely everything pretty much when weaning. I still think it's mainly luck though and there will be many fussy phases!

The only thing I didn't give were extremely spicy/salty dishes where it'd be difficult to cool it down with yoghurt. But they had a typical protein + carb + two veg style meal instead or something I'd batch cooked in the freezer.

How do they propose their DC eventually become eaters of the foods "they'd never give them" just while young?

GiddyRobin · 23/11/2024 21:33

Mine have always just eaten what we eat. Of course I've given them a fishfinger sandwich or chips and egg now and again, but we don't eat like that daily so neither do they. They both love fish and seafood, spices and herbs. The only thing DS doesn't like are mushrooms, and DD can be a bit funny with asparagus. Whenever we go to restaurants we just order off the main menu and they either split it or we take some home, or we do a load or sides. Tapas and Vietnamese places are quite good for that.

I've never seen the point of cooking "kids meals". Surely people want their children to have an open mind to new flavours? Plus, cooking separate meals every dinner time? That seems like a waste of time. Salmon and veg or a prawn curry is better than chicken nuggets and chips, there's no denying that, so I don't see the push towards beige for kids.

godmum56 · 23/11/2024 21:22

saffy2 · 23/11/2024 19:02

Don’t you?! I’m a grown adult who loves sea food and I don’t eat calamari because it has a weird texture. It is absolutely nothing like a chicken nugget or a fish finger and you full well know that. My daughter would literally vomit if I gave her calamari, and of all the ‘adult’ foods out there I wouldn’t blame her 😂😂😂

Same here. huge fish and seafood fan but NOT calamari or octopus.